[Rumour] Flames aggressively trying to move up. UPD: Treliving and Kekelainen meeting on floor

[Poe969]

Bennett & 6 for 3 & Jones......... I kid, I kid.

[AC]

Calgary Flames @NHLFlames
"Friday is going to be so exciting." - Jesse Puljujarvi


It's a sign!

[Alberta_Beef]

Originally Posted by AC

Calgary Flames @NHLFlames
"Friday is going to be so exciting." - Jesse Puljujarvi


It's a sign!

yes a Toyota sign

[StrykerSteve]

Not gonna lie, took me a minute to find the Toyota sign.

[MarkGio]

I think the Jackets are going to draft Puljajarvi, and then wait to see who's on the board at #6 before deciding. There's no difference in trading for a hypothetical 3rdOA or trading for Puljajarvi because it's almost certain they're the same thing, but there's a huge difference in trading for a hypothetical 6th OA and the player you want because they're not necessarily the same thing.

[nik-]

Why would the Flames do that to us?

[Alberta_Beef]

Originally Posted by MarkGio

I think the Jackets are going to draft Puljajarvi, and then wait to see who's on the board at #6 before deciding. There's no difference in trading for a hypothetical 3rdOA or trading for Puljajarvi because it's almost certain they're the same thing, but there's a huge difference in trading for a hypothetical 6th OA and the player you want because they're not necessarily the same thing.

When was the last time a trade like this happened in the NHL?

[MarkGio]

Originally Posted by Alberta_Beef

When was the last time a trade like this happened in the NHL?

For a 3rd OA? I don't know. But I know there's been draft trades where a team waited to see who's on the board before pulling the trigger.

Look at Jankowski on draft day. Buffalo say that Girgs is still available and pulled the trigger on draft day, allowing Feastet to move down

[MarkGio]

If I'm Buffalo and I want the best centre not named Matthews, that leaves me with Dubois.

[Alberta_Beef]

Originally Posted by MarkGio

For a 3rd OA? I don't know. But I know there's been draft trades where a team waited to see who's on the board before pulling the trigger.

Look at Jankowski on draft day. Buffalo say that Girgs is still available and pulled the trigger on draft day, allowing Feastet to move down

When was the last time a player was drafted and then traded later that draft. Your example is not the same at all.

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by MarkGio

If I'm Buffalo and I want the best centre not named Matthews, that leaves me with Dubois.

Thats a little suspect line of thought. Dubois played a lot of Center yes but he wasn't good at it apparently. Terrible in faceoffs which is 70% of the job a C has over the other forwards.

Next best C I think is Brown and McLeod. Dubois may become a C but is a long ways off from being good at that spot. Overall the better player yes, at Center though? Eeesh.

[Incogneto]

Originally Posted by Alberta_Beef

When was the last time a trade like this happened in the NHL?

I can't remember it happening in the NHL, but it happened with Eli Manning and Phillip Rivers in the NFL.

[Alberta_Beef]

Originally Posted by InCoGnEtO

I can't remember it happening in the NHL, but it happened with Eli Manning and Phillip Rivers in the NFL.

I think it happens in the NBA too, but I don't ever recall it happening in the NHL either.

[JohnnyTitan]

Originally Posted by MarkGio

I think the Jackets are going to draft Puljajarvi, and then wait to see who's on the board at #6 before deciding. There's no difference in trading for a hypothetical 3rdOA or trading for Puljajarvi because it's almost certain they're the same thing, but there's a huge difference in trading for a hypothetical 6th OA and the player you want because they're not necessarily the same thing.

I think this is by far the smartest way to do it. And therefore I think Flames fans don't have to give up hope for Poolboy until after we actually make the pick at #6.

I can't think of NHL examples, but this is exactly how the Eli Manning / Phillip Rivers trade went down. Eli was a Charger for all of two more picks and then dealt for Rivers. In that case the Giants made the pick and then traded the player...where in this situation I think the Flames would trade the pick and have the Blue Jackets take Brown.

[Clever_Iggy]

Originally Posted by InCoGnEtO

I can't remember it happening in the NHL, but it happened with Eli Manning and Phillip Rivers in the NFL.

Vince Carter and Antawn Jamison in the '98 NBA Draft.

[devo22]

LaMarcus Aldridge as well I believe. Certainly happens in the NBA from time to time, but I don't think it's happened in the NHL. At least not in recent years.

[Frank MetaMusil]

Originally Posted by devo22

LaMarcus Aldridge as well I believe. Certainly happens in the NBA from time to time, but I don't think it's happened in the NHL. At least not in recent years.

Lindros for Forsberg +?

I guess that didn't happen right at the draft though. Memory is failing me.

[Fire of the Phoenix]

Originally Posted by MarkGio

If I'm Buffalo and I want the best centre not named Matthews, that leaves me with Dubois.

Eichel
ROR
Girgensons

Reinhart to RW because of ^

I think they are okay picking a winger or a D

[Oling_Roachinen]

Originally Posted by Frank MetaMusil

Lindros for Forsberg +?

I guess that didn't happen right at the draft though. Memory is failing me.

Lindros was traded a year after being drafted.

[CliffFletcher]

I'm pretty sure it hasn't happened in at least 30 years, if ever. Think about the Blue Jackets brass putting a jersey and hat on Puljujarvi, shaking hands, smiling and getting pictures with him, etc. and then trading him 10 minutes later. It might be a cultural thing in the NHL where that would just never happen.