01-02-2016, 01:08 PM
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#622
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Victoria
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Originally Posted by Textcritic
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hitmen are breathing a sigh of relief
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01-02-2016, 01:09 PM
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#623
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: speculating about AHL players
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Well, I guess we've been FINNISHED.
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01-02-2016, 01:16 PM
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#624
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Northern Crater
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Originally Posted by Textcritic
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Why are they so hellbent on rushing this kid? He's going to be a third liner at best, and right now he's in way over his head. They are straight up ruining what little potential he has.
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01-02-2016, 01:23 PM
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#625
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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Adam Kimelman @NHLAdamK
Puljujarvi 3 assists today give him 15 pts, T4th-most by U-18 in WJC. Jagr, 1990 18; Gretzky 1978 17; Lindros 1978 17; Vyborny 1993 15
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01-02-2016, 01:50 PM
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#626
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Franchise Player
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This team looked from the very beginning of the tournament like they didn't have what it takes. So many things wrong:
1) discipline. From the get go, way too many penalties. But in today's game, it was ridiculous - and not just Virtanen - Marner and Strome both had terrible, dumb penalties as well. When a team is continually undisciplined, you have to look to the leadership and to coaching. And both are to blame.
2) goaltending. It was never good in this tournament. But again, it was at a new level of bad today. It was plain for all to see that Blackwood was fighting the puck and handing out rebounds like Easter eggs. Lowry pulled him 25 minutes too late.
3) selfish play. Marner, Virtanen, Strome and occasionally Point, were continually trying to do it all by themselves. The best players simply weren't good enough. Yes, Marner had a couple goals today, but too little too late. And he followed it up with a stupid, selfish penalty.
4) coaching. So many examples. But I'll just go with the fact that he stuck with his guys (Virtanen, Hicketts, Blackwood, Marner, Strome) no matter what they did. Strome and Marner were good at times, but the bottom line is that these guys got the ice-time and they didn't deliver.
5) team structure. Hockey Canada used to try and fill roles. Now they have gone completely the other way and just tried to pick talent. And as a result, they had no leadership, no physicality, no grinders. I agree that you need talent, but a team also needs balance. And this team was too small, and lived on the perimeter.
6) Jake Virtanen. His level of stupidity was so high that he deserves his own bullet
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01-02-2016, 02:00 PM
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#627
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Vancouver, BC
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Virtanen should fit right in with the Canucks.
Big body, skilled, but stupid, stupid, stupid.
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01-02-2016, 02:09 PM
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#628
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Franchise Player
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Virtanen is a perfect example of the truthiness of the statement
BIG = GOOD
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01-02-2016, 02:11 PM
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#629
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by Fire of the Phoenix
Why are they so hellbent on rushing this kid? He's going to be a third liner at best, and right now he's in way over his head. They are straight up ruining what little potential he has.
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Benning's already been exposed for his trading, contract negotiation, pro scouting. Amateur scouting was his calling card and last bastion. He needs his first pick as GM hit big and soon.
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FU, Jim Benning
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GMs around the campfire tell a story that if you say Sbisa 5 times in the mirror, he appears on your team with a 3.6 million cap hit.
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01-02-2016, 02:11 PM
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#630
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: STH since 2002
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Virtanen played like a hot headed loser the entire tournament and Lowry did nothing to limit his ice time. He rewarded him with top minutes even though he was playing like an idiot, couldn't hit the net. Played selfish, came into the tournement cold and stayed in that state.
Virtanen played like he was entitled to be there.
He has been a healthy scratch in the NHL for good reason. Attitude sucks, and Lowry showed no leadership as a coach. He was way out his depth as a national coach on this stage.
Lowry reminded me of Playfair when he was coaching in the Playoffs after Sutter. A wall flower with no in game adjustments.
It took Lowry the entire tournament and 58 min of this loss to realize
Virtanen is hurting the team.
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01-02-2016, 02:18 PM
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#631
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In the Sin Bin
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Man this tournament has got me excited about the potential consolation prize, should we miss the playoffs.
Some good prospects out there showing some excellent skill... Unfortunately, None of them were Canadian.
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01-02-2016, 02:19 PM
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#632
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Franchise Player
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NM, double post
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01-02-2016, 02:28 PM
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#633
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: SW
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I certainly can't comment in as much detail as everyone else in this thread as I will admit, I didn't get to see a lot of Team Canada's play in this years WJ tournament.
Based on what I did see I would definitely place the blame on Coaching for Team Canada's early exit, solely based on zero punishment (benching players) for stupid undisciplined behavior. Lowry isn't coach material.
PS: Renney didn't look happy while handing out those razors and watches.
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01-02-2016, 02:34 PM
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#634
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Haparanda
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Strome, Virtanen & Marner whining about reffing, lol.
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01-02-2016, 02:43 PM
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#635
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by vilzeh
Strome, Virtanen & Marner whining about reffing, lol.
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All three of them took terrible, undisciplined penalties in that game - penalties that deserved to be called.
For Virtanen, it happened 3 times.
And as far as reffing goes, I thought it was even. Maybe one or two relatively soft calls on either side, but nothing to get excited about.
In fact I would say this game was reffed better than most in these tournies.
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01-02-2016, 02:46 PM
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#636
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Haparanda
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I agree, some dodgy calls but it wasn't one sided, both got them. Virtanen was just plain stupid all night long, he has no say in it. Can't remember Marners penalty but Strome's I believe was a cross-check behind the Finnish goal, stupid.
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01-02-2016, 02:50 PM
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#637
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Franchise Player
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Strome cross-checked a guy in the numbers, 200 ft from his own net.
Marner punched a guy in the face during a mild scrum, to nullify a PP with less than 10 minutes to go in a game they were trailing.
Virtanen has established a new bar for stupidity
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01-02-2016, 02:55 PM
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#638
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Indiana
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Originally Posted by Aarongavey
Virtanen is a perfect example of the truthiness of the statement
BIG = GOOD
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Except 6'1 isn't really big at all in the NHL. Maybe it's a bit large for junior, but the size advantage ends there.
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01-02-2016, 03:02 PM
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#639
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Franchise Player
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Yeah, Virtanen has a size advantage in junior. But not in the NHL. And without a size advantage, what is he? (other than dumber than a sack of hammers)
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01-02-2016, 03:04 PM
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#640
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First Line Centre
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Pretty ridiculous how Konecny wasn't considered a top 3 player for Canada. He was imo our best player by a mile.
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