CP Mafia 3 - Super Smash Mafia - GAME OVER - Darkness Win!

[Drury18]

What the....?

[GGG]

Little Macs MOT thoughts

I think the MOTs are the twins who can talk to each other like wood and UCB in game one. Post 29 in the chat I think is revealing. The MOTs don't have any extra info YET. My guess is they will have the power to talk to the dead. As they mentioned they have other minor powers.

I am a little suspicious of alignment though. If they are townies as they say then what is the point of them posting suspicions? They could just do it in the thread. The only way this makes sense is if they have special powers. If they are dark then it is great opportunity to send the town astray as their suspicions can't be traced back to them. The third possibility is they are the watchers of this game and on our side and Mazrim gave them the power to get involved. Until the MOTs state they have good info to back the suspicions I don't think they are any more relavent then any in thread accusation. I do have a theory really just a guess on who they are if they are in game town but I don't think we should pursue identifying them if they can assist the town.

One thing to make sure is that if you are around at lynch keep refreshing and copy and paste the chat. Also at least two people should do it so their isn't any misrepresentation going on.

Little Macs Guardian and Eternals thoughts

Starseed is now a member of the guardians. GP is a member of the eternals. See first post. Prior to the guardian showing up I was thinking the eternals would be able to talk to the MOTs after death to continue to provide their thoughts now that their is a second group I have the following questions I would like answered by Starseed at GP Matt. Be careful in answering any or all of my questions if you think it would hurt us but also know at this point I am almost ready to lynch one of you to see a flip.

1) have your victory conditions changed
2) did you gain any cool powers (probably don't answer)
3) did you choose to join or were you forced
4) can GP and Starseed talk to each other outside the thread

I couple of ideas
1) just flavour like the post like the sham wow guy in the other game. In this case it's a scum / townie power to offer or force enrolment to this group to cast suspicion. With 2 groups now I think this is the likely scenario. 1 townie and 1 scum building each group out of all the players. If these groups can talk within themselves it will create an interesting dynamic as they will be a mix of mafia and townies in each group. In this case some time during the day the second eternal will be revealed and be able to chat with GP.

2) cult recruitment - even if the people recruited victory conditions don't change the leaders might have their own victory conditions. This is not likely as it would be a very unbalanced game that the two cult leaders would duke it out to win with no one else having a chance. So I think we should ignore this idea because we have already lost if true.

Any other ideas?

So I think we should ignore the whole eternals and guardians thing and until we know more get back to our primary goal of hunting scum. Right now the chaos and distraction all of this is causing is a benefit to the mafia. And any of these events shouldn't unbalance the game to make it unwinnable for either side. Therefore we should be very careful with how much weight we put on things designed to cause chaos. The message posted in the card flip I think supports this philosophy. If you go back to the first game there was a player who could write messages into the card flip. In this case it appears that someone is using that power to cast suspicion on the eternals, the action was probably submitted before Starseed became a guardian at 1:40 yesterday.

I think before we get back into scum hunting we should more or less agree on how to treat these chaos causing events.

What do the rest of you think? Sorry about the wall of text.

Little Mac is looking for the next victim of the star punch upper cut.

[formulate]

Thanks for the synopsis GGG. I managed to log on quickly (from the john at my dinner ) and thought the MOT thing was pretty odd. Could be mafia hiding behind a fake faction? I wouldn't necessarily take anything they said at face value.

Also.....

Originally Posted by Mazrim

Alive:
1. formulate
3. Drury18
4. Wood
5. dissentowner
6. starseed - Member of The Guardians
7. hmmhmmcamo
8. squiggs96
10. stazzy33
12. Rathji
13. Timbo
14. Delgar
15. GGG
16. mrkajz44
17. Baxter Renegade
18. GirlySports
19. East Coast Flame
20. Oling_Roachinen
21. GP_Matt - Member of The Eternals
22. Puxlut

[GirlySports]

noooooo not Mariooooooooooooooo!!!

I've been itching to post all day!

WTF happened? I went to pick up the kid from school and by the time we came home from soccer, I had missed a crap load of stuff!!

What was with the twilight thread? I'm still hazy on what happened there.

And now with that message, I think I know who I need to vote for. But I will give him a chance to squeal out any of his scum buddies.

[Drury18]

I was in the MOT chat and have screen shots of the entire conversation.

One item that GGG has missed is that the MOT mentioned that they will try to open the portal to speak with them after every day.

[GGG]

Originally Posted by Drury18

I was in the MOT chat and have screen shots of the entire conversation.

One item that GGG has missed is that the MOT mentioned that they will try to open the portal to speak with them after every day.

I pmd Mazrim about posting a copy of the chat and he said it was against the rules and we can just paraphrase it so you can't post the screen shots.

[formulate]

Originally Posted by GGG

So I think we should ignore the whole eternals and guardians thing and until we know more get back to our primary goal of hunting scum. Right now the chaos and distraction all of this is causing is a benefit to the mafia. And any of these events shouldn't unbalance the game to make it unwinnable for either side. Therefore we should be very careful with how much weight we put on things designed to cause chaos. The message posted in the card flip I think supports this philosophy. If you go back to the first game there was a player who could write messages into the card flip. In this case it appears that someone is using that power to cast suspicion on the eternals, the action was probably submitted before Starseed became a guardian at 1:40 yesterday.

I think before we get back into scum hunting we should more or less agree on how to treat these chaos causing events.

I agree that this is an important point. Maybe ignore is the wrong word, because gaining information (whatever they feel comfortable providing) from GP_Matt and Starseed should be helpful to the town. But he fact that Matt is still alive tells me that the mafia do not feel threatened by 'The Eternals'. I don't believe we should be either, at least not yet.

Continuing to create discussion and looking for scummy behavior should be our course of action today, provided any information that comes out doesn't change things dramatically.

[Drury18]

I figured that was the rule.

[dissentowner]

Holy crap, wth is going on? I missed this whole MOT discussion thing. And it looks like we lynched our townie with the cop role, why would he not have said something so whomever has the doctor role (if there is one) could protect him? We just took a big loss after day 1

[GP_Matt]

Unvote
I will follow up more, but why does it say I have both voted and have yet to vote? Or do I have a vote against me? Is that the price for joining the eternals? I start the round with a target on my back.

[devo22]

-------------------------- DEAD POST --------------------------

noooooooooo ... mama mia! This is how I feel:



good luck scum-hunting, dear fellow members of the Light. You can do it!

oh, and dear scum:

[GP_Matt]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Holy crap, wth is going on? I missed this whole MOT discussion thing. And it looks like we lynched our townie with the cop role, why would he not have said something so whomever has the doctor role (if there is one) could protect him? We just took a big loss after day 1

He didn't say anything because we were impatient. He clearly posted that he would try to log in that evening and I asked everyone to wait but for reasons that I don't understand we got impatient and GirlySports dropped the hammer.

After 3 flips, all of them being town and all of them having powers freaks me out a little.

And if the guys in the twilight thread were suspicious of Devo and he flipped town, what can we derive from that?

The Eternals/Guardians thing: We weren't told to be beware of the Guardians.

[GGG]

Originally Posted by GP_Matt

Unvote
I will follow up more, but why does it say I have both voted and have yet to vote? Or do I have a vote against me? Is that the price for joining the eternals? I start the round with a target on my back.

Based on how it is formatted you have a vote against you. But no one cast it.

Mazrim, is the vote count correct or a typo?

[GP_Matt]

Originally Posted by GGG

Little Macs MOT thoughts

1) have your victory conditions changed
2) did you gain any cool powers (probably don't answer)
3) did you choose to join or were you forced
4) can GP and Starseed talk to each other outside the thread

1) They have not changed. I asked specifically before joining
2) I don't think it is helpful to discuss powers
3) It was voluntary
4) I asked this as well and have been told that I can't communicate outside of this thread

[formulate]

Originally Posted by GP_Matt

Unvote
I will follow up more, but why does it say I have both voted and have yet to vote? Or do I have a vote against me? Is that the price for joining the eternals? I start the round with a target on my back.

It looks like you have an automatic vote against you. I guess this is the trade-off for whatever power/ability/communication possibility/responsibility you have gained. I have a strange feeling that this automatic vote number is going to increase over time...

[GGG]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Holy crap, wth is going on? I missed this whole MOT discussion thing. And it looks like we lynched our townie with the cop role, why would he not have said something so whomever has the doctor role (if there is one) could protect him? We just took a big loss after day 1

He was also our role cop which I believe just detects roles not alignments.

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Role_Cop

Would have been useful but not as bad as our real cop.

[GP_Matt]

Originally Posted by GGG

Based on how it is formatted you have a vote against you. But no one cast it.

Mazrim, is the vote count correct or a typo?

I think it is correct, especially with the warning that membership is not free.
I think the vote against me is the price and the warning is to others who may be recruited.

[Timbo]

I was on during the lynch but on my iphone when the link to the portal appeared I clicked it and got a blank quick topic page? I do not know if this was by design or a limit of quick topic and apple. Mazrim?

At any rate these new developments are very disconcerting.

First and foremost we lost 3 of our brethren townies

And ya what is going on with GP_Matt and the one vote?