03-25-2016, 11:39 PM
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Originally Posted by 2Stonedbirds
What rifle are you using? Because unless your projectile is travelling at 2000+ FPS at "a couple thousand yards" it aint gonna work.
How does your plan work anyways?
"Excuse me highly sensitive targets, don't mind me, I'm just gonna set this 50 pound container of binary explosive next to you. Don't move, I need 15 minutes or so to get back a couple thousand yards, set my dope and hopefully my master plan leaves you all dead."
This isn't a Tom Clancy novel.
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Dude, seriously obviously the weapons are out there, we're seeing it in these videos.
It doesn't take much to disguise something.
This is a incredibly stupid and dangerous product because there's nothing at all limiting it use to what its meant for, and nothing limiting who can buy it, you can buy it over the internet, with no registration requirements. I just went to 2 ordering sites to check it out.
When the only limiter is a warning label, you can see the results.
Which are the videos.
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03-25-2016, 11:43 PM
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#622
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Originally Posted by 2Stonedbirds
What rifle are you using? Because unless your projectile is travelling at 2000+ FPS at "a couple thousand yards" it aint gonna work.
How does your plan work anyways?
"Excuse me highly sensitive targets, don't mind me, I'm just gonna set this 50 pound container of binary explosive next to you. Don't move, I need 15 minutes or so to get back a couple thousand yards, set my dope and hopefully my master plan leaves you all dead."
This isn't a Tom Clancy novel.
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You think people are that observant or caring these days ??
I was biking to work with a co worker and we noticed a guy collapse and start convulsing on the ground and 60 people around him paid him no mind when we noticed him. we stopped and realized he was having a seizure to help him 100's of people passed us not giving a #### at all. People are to self involved to give a #### t all about the world around them.
As for your hypothetical of let me just set this down and get set up 15 mins later .... It is not like multiple people could be used to set off a plan like this .
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03-25-2016, 11:44 PM
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#623
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Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch
Dude, seriously obviously the weapons are out there, we're seeing it in these videos.
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Not at a couple thousand yards we are not.
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It doesn't take much to disguise something.
This is a incredibly stupid and dangerous product because there's nothing at all limiting it use to what its meant for, and nothing limiting who can buy it, you can buy it over the internet, with no registration requirements. I just went to 2 ordering sites to check it out.
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Your full of it. I need to provide a PAL number, my name, address and time of purchase are all recorded at the point of sale.
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When the only limiter is a warning label, you can see the results.
Which are the videos.
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The limiter is regulatory controls put in place so that any swinging dick can't walk into their local firearms supplier and walk out with an unlimited amount.
Again, it's been decided that it is PERFECTLY LEGAL to own and use under a prescribed set of laws and regulations. If that changes, so be it.
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Originally Posted by Yamer
Even though he says he only wanted steak and potatoes, he was aware of all the rapes.
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03-25-2016, 11:45 PM
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#624
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Originally Posted by 2stonedbirds
well, for one he's wrong. 1700fps isn't gonna do it.
Two, he was caught. Crisis averted.
What else ya got?
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trump for president!!!!!!
What happens when yhey don't catch the next guy??? Will you condemn or condone their actions?? Its legal so no problem?
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03-25-2016, 11:46 PM
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#625
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Originally Posted by combustiblefuel
You think people are that observant or caring these days ??
I was biking to work with a co worker and we noticed a guy collapse and start convulsing on the ground and 60 people around him paid him no mind when we noticed him. we stopped and realized he was having a seizure to help him 100's of people passed us not giving a #### at all. People are to self involved to give a #### t all about the world around them.
As for your hypothetical of let me just set this down and get set up 15 mins later .... It is not like multiple people could be used to set off a plan like this .
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Still waiting for examples of terrorists carrying out an attack with tannerite, and you didn't answer my comparative strawman regarding your motor vehicle.
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Originally Posted by Yamer
Even though he says he only wanted steak and potatoes, he was aware of all the rapes.
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03-25-2016, 11:46 PM
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Originally Posted by combustiblefuel
trump for president!!!!!!
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Allah on a crutch.
You should bring up infowars next.
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Originally Posted by Yamer
Even though he says he only wanted steak and potatoes, he was aware of all the rapes.
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03-25-2016, 11:50 PM
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#627
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Originally Posted by 2Stonedbirds
Not at a couple thousand yards we are not.
Your full of it. I need to provide a PAL number, my name, address and time of purchase are all recorded at the point of sale.
The limiter is regulatory controls put in place so that any swinging dick can't walk into their local firearms supplier and walk out with an unlimited amount.
Again, it's been decided that it is PERFECTLY LEGAL to own and use under a prescribed set of laws and regulations. If that changes, so be it.
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How do you narrow it down to the exact owner of this explosive? You can't exacly get a serial number off the pr9duct after it has exploded. All you have is a list of people who purchased this product and you have to go through them 1 by 1. You could just say you blew it up in some random field.
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03-25-2016, 11:52 PM
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#628
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Originally Posted by combustiblefuel
How do you narrow it down to the exact owner of this explosive? You can't exacly get a serial number off the pr9duct after it has exploded. All you have is a list of people who purchased this product and you have to go through them 1 by 1. You could just say you blew it up in some random field.
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Woah woah woah... you mean to tell me a registry of who owns what is useless?
By god I think he's starting to get it!
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Originally Posted by Yamer
Even though he says he only wanted steak and potatoes, he was aware of all the rapes.
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03-25-2016, 11:53 PM
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Norm!
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Originally Posted by 2Stonedbirds
Well, for one he's wrong. 1700FPS isn't gonna do it.
Two, he was caught. Crisis averted.
What else ya got?
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Great he was caught, but that doesn't discount that they were using Tannerite for Terrorism related activities.
What else have you got.
You can still actively buy rifles like FN A1's on line for example for between 2 and 3000 bucks, with a velocity of 2750 feet per second, and a range of 1000 + yards.
I can't buy Tannerite right now in Canada from the US, hurray. but according to what I can find the ATF doesn't have any purchasing requirements on people buying it in quantities with the exception looking like Maryland has placed a restriction on it.
Obviously there are purchasing limits placed on it, we can see it with people building 140 pound bombs, or using 50 pound bombs to blow up wild life.
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03-25-2016, 11:54 PM
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Originally Posted by 2Stonedbirds
Allah on a crutch.
You should bring up infowars next.
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You don't have any good reason for why civilians should own it. All you have is " I like blowimg #### up *spatoon noise* "
Your starw man arguements are irrelevant. I gave you some very logical arguements how it could be abused . All you have is I like to blow #### up with no actual evidence how it can be used as a useful tool to impove your everyday life .
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03-25-2016, 11:58 PM
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#631
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Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch
Great he was caught, but that doesn't discount that they were caught planning on using Tannerite for Terrorism related activities.
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Fixed this for you.
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What else have you got.
You can still actively buy rifles like FN A1's on line for example for between 2 and 3000 bucks, with a velocity of 2750 feet per second, and a range of 2000 + meters.
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LOL a .30 cal bullet coming out of a .308 travelling over 2000+fps at a couple thousand yards!
And you're ex military?
How fast is that 150-180 grain pill travelling at when it reaches it's target at 2000 yards?
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I can't buy Tannerite right now in Canada from the US, hurray. but according to what I can find the ATF doesn't have any purchasing requirements on people buying it in quantities with the exception looking like Maryland has placed a restriction on it.
Obviously there are purchasing limits placed on it, we can see it with people building 140 pound bombs, or using 50 pound bombs to blow up wild life.
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Cool. We are talking about Canadian regulations however.
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Originally Posted by Yamer
Even though he says he only wanted steak and potatoes, he was aware of all the rapes.
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03-25-2016, 11:59 PM
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#632
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Originally Posted by combustiblefuel
You don't have any good reason for why civilians should own it. All you have is " I like blowimg #### up *spatoon noise* "
Your starw man arguements are irrelevant. I gave you some very logical arguements how it could be abused . All you have is I like to blow #### up with no actual evidence how it can be used as a useful tool to impove your everyday life .
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I don't need to provide a good reason. It's legal, that's all the reason I need.
No, your logic is based on fallacies and strawmen and near as I can tell, you're afraid of what exists outside your dwelling.
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Originally Posted by Yamer
Even though he says he only wanted steak and potatoes, he was aware of all the rapes.
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03-26-2016, 12:00 AM
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#633
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Originally Posted by 2Stonedbirds
Woah woah woah... you mean to tell me a registry of who owns what is useless?
By god I think he's starting to get it!
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They tried passing serial numbers on bullets so they can identify who shot them but the NRA fought tooth and nail against it . Legislative members also tried to make it mandatory in certian states to own smart weopons that were finger print activated only but again the NRA paid off the right people.
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03-26-2016, 12:03 AM
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#634
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Originally Posted by 2Stonedbirds
I don't need to provide a good reason. It's legal, that's all the reason I need.
No, your logic is based on fallacies and strawmen and near as I can tell, you're afraid of what exists outside your dwelling.
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Raping your wife in Canada use to be legal too. It was not that long ago in fact. Just because it is legal dosen't mean it makes sense. Thats why in a democracy we have the ability to make changes to the law to pertain the time in history.
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03-26-2016, 12:03 AM
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WTF does the NRA have to do with tannerite?
This example also ignores ballistic testing that can prove which barrel a projectile came out of.
"Hey guys, this bullet I dug out of this carcass has a serial number on it... to the batmobile!"
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Originally Posted by Yamer
Even though he says he only wanted steak and potatoes, he was aware of all the rapes.
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03-26-2016, 12:04 AM
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#636
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Originally Posted by combustiblefuel
Raping your wife in Canada use to be legal too. It was not that long ago in fact. Just because it is legal dosen't mean it makes sense.
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For the love of all that is holy would you PLEASE research what a strawman argument is?
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Thats why in a democracy we have the ability to make changes to the law to pertain the time in history.
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For the third time, if the RCMP under the firearms and explosives act determine that tannerite and other binary targets are detrimental to public safety, they will change the laws!
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Originally Posted by Yamer
Even though he says he only wanted steak and potatoes, he was aware of all the rapes.
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03-26-2016, 12:05 AM
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Originally Posted by 2Stonedbirds;5688983[B
]I don't need to provide a good reason. It's legal, that's all the reason I need.[/B]
No, your logic is based on fallacies and strawmen and near as I can tell, you're afraid of what exists outside your dwelling.
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Originally Posted by 2Stonedbirds
For the love of all that is holy would you PLEASE research what a strawman argument is?
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You just argued agaist yourself 
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03-26-2016, 12:08 AM
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Originally Posted by 2Stonedbirds
For the love of all that is holy would you PLEASE research what a strawman argument is?
For the third time, if the RCMP under the firearms and explosives act determine that tannerite and other binary targets are detrimental to public safety, they will change the laws!
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RCMP don't make the laws they just enforce them as written. The RCMP DO NOT HAVE THE ABILITY TO CHANGE THWM. Canadian laws are vague. They are not elected legislators. They have a lobby group that can suggest changes but do not hold any seats any power to actaually change the laws.
The people that write the laws may not be well informed on the subject.
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03-26-2016, 12:11 AM
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Originally Posted by combustiblefuel
RCMP don't make the laws they just enforce them as written. The RCMP DO NOT HAVE THE ABILITY TO CHANGE THWM. Canadian laws are vague.
The people that write the laws may not be well informed on the subject.
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Nope. Not at all.
No recent arbitrary reclassifications of firearms. Nope, that never happened.
Our public safety minister proposes law changes within the firearms and explosives act based on consultation with RCMP. I'd also like to add that our new liberal govt has proposed to leaving the firearms act 100% in control of the RCMP and noone else.
I'd help you dig that hole, but you're doing a fine job of it yourself.
I'd love to continue this battle of wits with you, however you appear to be out of ammo.
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Originally Posted by Yamer
Even though he says he only wanted steak and potatoes, he was aware of all the rapes.
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03-26-2016, 12:14 AM
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#640
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Originally Posted by 2Stonedbirds
Nope. Not at all.
No recent arbitrary reclassifications of firearms. Nope, that never happened.
I'd help you dig that hole, but you're doing a fine job of it yourself.
I'd love to continue this battle of wits with you, however you appear to be out of ammo.
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Elected legislators vote on changings the laws and on reclassification not the RCMP. The RCMP just enforce what legislators put forward.
I believe you have interpreted the workings of our government very poorly.
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