Justin Trudeau says marijuana should be legalized

[sun]

Originally Posted by heep223

Though I don't use pot and don't see why adults do, it should absolutely be legalized, regulated and taxed.

Bonus, we get to laugh at crotchety old conservative religious people yelling at clouds when it happens.

This is my favourite criticism of anything "I don't do partake in x. Other adults do partake in x. Since I can't wrap my mind around why someone may like to participate in something that I've never tried, I will compare them all to children."

"I don't build or collect Lego sets and don't see why adults do"

"I don't wear backwards hats and don't see why adults do"

"I don't read comic books and don't see why adults do"

"I don't drive a Fiat 500 and don't see why adults do"

"I don't spend several hundred dollars every year to watch other adults play a child's game on ice and I don't see why adults do"

"I don't post 4482 times, 5x/day, on an internet message board about a team of millionaires wearing red on ice and don't see why adults do"

See how stupid that sounds?

[CroFlames]

Originally Posted by heep223

Though I don't use pot and don't see why adults do, it should absolutely be legalized, regulated and taxed.

Bonus, we get to laugh at crotchety old conservative religious people yelling at clouds when it happens.

I'm sure people of the Rastafarian religion will be appalled.

[Sainters7]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

I'm not going to get overly involved in this argument but it is possible to indulge in a drink or two and not become intoxicated. Pretty hard to smoke today's weed and not become totally stoned.

Actually this made me think, when they do eventually have check stops for this in whatever capacity, how would they gauge it? Would there be a certain, small permissible amount of THC in your body, similar to .08 alcohol? Or is it straight zero tolerance, where even one puff an hour before and you're over?

Obviously this will take some time to be implemented, but it will be interesting what they come up with over the next few years.

[Sainters7]

nm

[heep223]

Originally Posted by sun

This is my favourite criticism of anything "I don't do partake in x. Other adults do partake in x. Since I can't wrap my mind around why someone may like to participate in something that I've never tried, I will compare them all to children."



"I don't build or collect Lego sets and don't see why adults do"



"I don't wear backwards hats and don't see why adults do"



"I don't read comic books and don't see why adults do"



"I don't drive a Fiat 500 and don't see why adults do"



"I don't spend several hundred dollars every year to watch other adults play a child's game on ice and I don't see why adults do"



"I don't post 4482 times, 5x/day, on an internet message board about a team of millionaires wearing red on ice and don't see why adults do"



See how stupid that sounds?

Lego is the tits

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by polak

Lets ask the police in washington state where it's been legal for a while now:

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/interna...b_8100122.html

I have posted this before, but to me, if the "Pro-Pot" side wants to get a larger acceptance, why not just back a position that driving and smoking is a bad idea.


I don't smoke, I don't have an issue with people that do smoke. I think pot should be legalized. I think it should essentially have the same rules/regulations that booze currently does (I am sure there would need to be some changes).

[Fire of the Phoenix]

Originally Posted by heep223

Though I don't use pot and don't see why adults do, it should absolutely be legalized, regulated and taxed.

Bonus, we get to laugh at crotchety old conservative religious people yelling at clouds when it happens.

Probably for the same reasons adults consume alcohol, cigarettes, coffee, tea, pharmaceuticals and other stimulants/depressants?

If anything adults should be the only ones consuming/smoking pot. I've read that it's not that great for developing minds.

[MrMastodonFarm]

It'll be interesting to see how work site testing comes around to this. No reason someone can get drunk the night before and still show up fine to work but someone else smoked up five days prior and would still pee dirty.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

I have posted this before, but to me, if the "Pro-Pot" side wants to get a larger acceptance, why not just back a position that driving and smoking is a bad idea.


I don't smoke, I don't have an issue with people that do smoke. I think pot should be legalized. I think it should essentially have the same rules/regulations that booze currently does (I am sure there would need to be some changes).

True.

I am a casual cannabis user. For me, a teaspoon of cannabis butter in my hot chocolate on a Friday night is a relaxing way to unwind and get a good night's sleep. For me, it's better than anxiety medication or alcohol.

But the whole driving thing is bothersome. Too many pot users thinks it's OK to drive when impaired. I was listening to the local rock radio station yesterday and they were promoting 4:20 so much but never asked people to not drive under the influence. It was infuriating.

[Duruss]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

False for your particular circumstance but the recreational users don't use it for medical purposes. If it doesn't get you high people would just stick to tobacco.

Also false, though as not all recreational users are going to be using for fun. Lots of people who would get a medical licence don't due to the cost. When I started looking into getting a prescription back in October, I found lots of people who couldn't afford the typical $300.00 fee. I actually go to a place that has no fee and I am lucky.

Next and not all directed at you, but there are multiple people rushing to get a THC breathalyzer to market. I read about one yesterday that is for THC and Alcohol and costs only 15.00 to produce. The creator hopes to sell to both law enforcemenf and the public for home use, but that still doesn't address user tolerance.

User tolerance is important because, over time the endocannabinoid receptors in your brain become exhausted and shut down, which means it gets harder to get high unless you take a break.


Next not all strains of modern marajauna are great for getting high. CBD is a newer twist, the substance has no psychoactive effects and even counters some of THC's effects. Typically the THC content in a plant is higher than the CBD, but that has changed see below for more: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Char..._web_(cannabis)

[Fire of the Phoenix]

Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm

It'll be interesting to see how work site testing comes around to this. No reason someone can get drunk the night before and still show up fine to work but someone else smoked up five days prior and would still pee dirty.

I've read it can stay in your system for a few weeks sometimes. It will be interesting to see how they approach it. My guess is nothing will change for a few years but eventually they won't test for pot at all. The most 'debilitating' effects last all of a couple of hours. People would have to consume just before work, or during work, to have any real impact on job performance at all. How many people really do this? I guess there are some who would do so, but really it's not any worse than working while exhausted IMO. When are they going to start testing for that?

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by Duruss

Also false, though as not all recreational users are going to be using for fun. Lots of people who would get a medical licence don't due to the cost. When I started looking into getting a prescription back in October, I found lots of people who couldn't afford the typical $300.00 fee. I actually go to a place that has no fee and I am lucky.

Also, insurance companies will consider you a "smoker" if you have a marijuana prescription and you end up paying higher rates. It is stupid because a lot (if not most) people use edibles or vapourizers these days, but insurance companies refuse to accept that.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmont...e-it-1.3185077

My doctor offered to help me out, but I refused for this reason.

[Duruss]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

Also, insurance companies will consider you a "smoker" if you have a marijuana prescription and you end up paying higher rates. It is stupid because a lot (if not most) people use edibles or vapourizers these days, but insurance companies refuse to accept that.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmont...e-it-1.3185077

My doctor offered to help me out, but I refused for this reason.

I see that changing eventually, they will have to keep up with the times.

[rubecube]

The whole "how are we going to test people who drive high?" thing is largely a red herring unless you truly think that the amount of people who drive while high is going to increase with legalization.

[nik-]

Well, I support legalization, but with greater ease of access, it is likely that more people will be driving while impaired.

I don't think it's going to be that huge a deal though.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by rubecube

The whole "how are we going to test people who drive high?" thing is largely a red herring unless you truly think that the amount of people who drive while high is going to increase with legalization.

Not to mention that there already are road side tests that can be done.

http://www.securetec.net/en/saliva-d...st-drugwiper-s

They already use them in the UK apparently.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

Not to mention that there already are road side tests that can be done.

http://www.securetec.net/en/saliva-d...st-drugwiper-s

They already use them in the UK apparently.

Pretending to give someone Doritos and then taking them away hardly qualifies as a 'roadside' test.

[PepsiFree]

Lots of talk about Doritos here. Super condescending and out of touch.

Cheetos Flamin' Hot are leading a revolution people, Doritos Cool Ranch was your dad's snack!

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

Lots of talk about Doritos here. Super condescending and out of touch.

Cheetos Flamin' Hot are leading a revolution people, Doritos Cool Ranch was your dad's snack!

No love for the jalapeno Cheetos?

[PepsiFree]

I guess if you're stuck in 2012