10-31-2011, 09:53 AM
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In the Sin Bin
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Originally Posted by SeeBass
your opinion of what is a valid or important protest and what is not is just that... your opinion
these same words were spoken of those protests too
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It actually is an incorrect comparison. The Vietnam protesters actually stood for something. Whether or not you supported them, they took a stand.
Occupy Calgary is little more than a small collection of Scumbag Steves.
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10-31-2011, 09:53 AM
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#622
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So if I take most of my daughters trick or treating candy tonight does that make me part of the 1%?
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10-31-2011, 09:54 AM
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#623
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Originally Posted by SeeBass
If that is what you think the protest is all about then I would agree with you but there are so many points of views out there and I know you are a smarter person than to generalize an entire group.
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If they actually had a goal, a mission statement, a manifesto.... anything, then we can sit back and actually compare it to something. Until then, it is just a bunch of misguided cry babies, with a few crazies, and the odd homeless guy mixed in, protesting.... uh..... stuff.
That being said, I wish to protest the color brown, it pisses me off. The existence of the color brown is more important than any other protest out there, and it is entirely not ridiculous to hold that view.
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10-31-2011, 09:55 AM
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#624
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Norm!
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Apparently if you're not with them, your part of the 1%.
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10-31-2011, 09:57 AM
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#625
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Man, these lazy bums are probably collecting EI or welfare that my hard working ass pays for, yet they complain. Typical entitlement issues that the lazy have shown for generations. Get out of the park that my taxes pay to maintain and go serve me a burger.
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10-31-2011, 09:58 AM
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Do you honestly think that many of those fine outstanding individuals down in Olympic Plaza have worked enough to qualify for EI?
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10-31-2011, 10:01 AM
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#627
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Originally Posted by pylon
Um, no, that is a fact.
Comparing the life and death of 70 some odd thousand American soldiers, and countless Vietnamese people, and all the political complexities of that war.. to a bunch of lazy, idiot spoiled kids who want to live in a fairy tale, unicorn and fairy dust world, is not comparable, and is not as important.... sorry.
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You know some people are out there are protesting climate change and the role of big goverment and corportations.
If they are correct and if drought and famine are a result it makes Nam look like a bad afternoon.
If a body count is what makes it a "fact" that one is more valid than another then maybe we could look at all of the victims of corporations in the third world. I would guess that is a pretty big list.
Last edited by SeeBass; 10-31-2011 at 10:28 AM.
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10-31-2011, 10:05 AM
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Of course there is no main message and yes I would think less of many of these people but some of those "ten different messages" are ones I agree with so I will not belittle their efforts because I do not agree with others who share the plaza with them.
Maybe one message will rise maybe not but I will not let the stupidity of some dilute the message of others.
Last edited by SeeBass; 10-31-2011 at 10:07 AM.
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10-31-2011, 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by SeeBass
Of course there is no main message and yes I would think less of many of these people but some of those "ten different messages" are ones I agree with so I will not belittle their efforts because I do not agree with others who share the plaza with them.
Maybe one message will rise maybe not but I will not let the stupidity of some dilute the message of others.
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Daggummit, I think we got ourselves a 1%er at the door...... 
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10-31-2011, 10:14 AM
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#630
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Originally Posted by Rathji
Do you honestly think that many of those fine outstanding individuals down in Olympic Plaza have worked enough to qualify for EI?
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Touche - very true. I guess it's more welfare and less EI. 
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10-31-2011, 10:17 AM
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#631
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Scoring Winger
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This morning I woke up to snow with a smile on my face.
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10-31-2011, 10:19 AM
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#632
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In the Sin Bin
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SeeBass
Of course there is no main message and yes I would think less of many of these people but some of those "ten different messages" are ones I agree with so I will not belittle their efforts because I do not agree with others who share the plaza with them.
Maybe one message will rise maybe not but I will not let the stupidity of some dilute the message of others.
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Except, of course, for the fact that that is exactly what has happened.
Whatever message you cared about was drowned out long ago.
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10-31-2011, 10:22 AM
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I'll say one thing for the Vietnam movement, it taught the military not to draft, had they had enough sense in 64' just to send poor black and hispanic kids the way they do now there would never have been an anti war movement and the spoilt little #######s would have barely noticed their country was bombing the crap out of Haiphong.
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10-31-2011, 10:25 AM
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#634
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Originally Posted by THE SCUD
Man, these lazy bums are probably collecting EI or welfare that my hard working ass pays for, yet they complain. Typical entitlement issues that the lazy have shown for generations. Get out of the park that my taxes pay to maintain and go serve me a burger.
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Doubt that, you have to pay into EI first before you can collect it....
Last edited by MelBridgeman; 10-31-2011 at 10:30 AM.
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10-31-2011, 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Resolute 14
Except, of course, for the fact that that is exactly what has happened.
Whatever message you cared about was drowned out long ago.
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When the Veitnam protests started many other organizations marched along with their movement too.
There was still the civil right crowd, the free speech crowd, the anti nuc crowd, anti macarthy crowd, SANE, SPU,SDS a lot of these started in the 50's and early 60's till they morphed into the unified crowd we saw in the end. As I mentioned earlier and Pylon stated at the begining there were 10 opinions then and today too.
History will be the judge
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10-31-2011, 10:32 AM
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At this point it really feels like the protesters have opted to hold democracy hostage to an extent with their catch 22 of "we demand change but refuse to articulate it down to a tangible issue!"
It's right up there with your crazy ex "I shouldn't have to tell you why I'm mad, if you don't know already I'm not letting you know!"
Maybe OccuationHissyFit would be a better name?
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10-31-2011, 10:32 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SeeBass
When the Veitnam protests started many other organizations marched along with their movement too.
There was still the civil right crowd, the free speech crowd, the anti nuc crowd, anti macarthy crowd, SANE, SPU,SDS a lot of these started in the 50's and early 60's till they morphed into the unified crowd we saw in the end. As I mentioned earlier and Pylon stated at the begining there were 10 opinions then and today too.
History will be the judge
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Let's simplify it...You have a very very very small group (let's say 0.008% of the 99%) of "people" essentially protesting against the pitfalls of a free market economy in a socialist country.....
I'm lost here...
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10-31-2011, 11:05 AM
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#638
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My opinion is just this: If it matters enough to somebody to hang out there for days. Then have it buddy, fight the good fight and let your opinion be heard and let democracy prevail.
In the end it is the majority who will decide just let democracy play out.
It is like a modern day speaker's corner or a soap box in Hyde Park. Let them find a common voice or not.
I am sure when our soldiers were fighting democracy I bet they didn't do it for the right of the majority to physically crush the minority.
These pics of tear gasmakes me think of, what is the audience on Al Jeezera thinking when they see this? Sort of a loss of moral high ground to me.
These guys might start running home when their socks get wet or they might be the group that gets us a 4 week holiday law, who knows yet.
Last edited by SeeBass; 10-31-2011 at 11:15 AM.
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10-31-2011, 01:41 PM
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Norm!
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Usually I'm really hesitant to use the term ######ed, but after reading that.
I'm almost willing to lift that restriction.
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