American Politics Thread: The Hunt for Blue November

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by tkflames

I am not Pro-Amy or her beliefs necesarily...but for all those in this thread that have your vitriol toward her default bto attacking her eyes...her look...her would not want to be her children...have a look in the mirror and decide if you haven't become what you hate about the other side...

Just popping in to this thread and this post seemed oddly placed. I just went back a few pages. Is this rooted a long time ago in this thread, or in some alternate reality where it is a significant theme?

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache

Just popping in to this thread and this post seemed oddly placed. I just went back a few pages. Is this rooted a long time ago in this thread, or in some alternate reality where it is a significant theme?

I just spent the last 5 minutes, with Wolf and Nancy making asses of themselves playing in the background, searching the last 160 posts in this thread and exactly zero contain any of the made up BS accusations that tkflames is claiming exist. What a ridiculous post.

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Nancy Pelosi may have once been a great politician but she’s at least 20 years past her best before date. She rambled and rambled and rambled. If that was Mayor Pete, he would have annihilated Wolf in that interview for his over the top comments/questions. And Pete would have easily knocked it out of the park on some of the more coherent but tough questions.

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Originally Posted by nfotiu

I didn't hear her say that in the clip above.

She is absolutely right that they shouldn't sacrifice the EIC and child tax credits to send out another round of $1200 checks so that they got something done. That would be an absolute disaster to the working poor and lower middle class. I don't imagine her demeanor won over many people, and I don't always like her, but the message in that clip is bang on for people are familiar with the programs she referenced.

Her ability to explain that coherently gets an F from me. She convinced me of nothing except that she’s the Dems version of Moscow Mitch, albeit a very light watered down version.

She’s exhibit #1 on why there need to be term and age limits in politics.

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

Nancy Pelosi may have once been a great politician but she’s at least 20 years past her best before date. She rambled and rambled and rambled. If that was Mayor Pete, he would have annihilated Wolf in that interview for his over the top comments/questions. And Pete would have easily knocked it out of the park on some of the more coherent but tough questions.

I hate to say it, but I agree with you. I think Mayor Pete is the new face of the party next election cycle. He and Andrew Yang. For better or for worse.

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Hate to say it because I’m usually an idiot or because you don’t like having to badmouth the Dems leadership?

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

Hate to say it because I’m usually an idiot or because you don’t like having to badmouth the Dems leadership?

A little from column A, a little from column B.

p.s. I hope you appreciate the Simpsons reference.

[Cecil Terwilliger]

I was counting on it.

[Ozy_Flame]

Maybe he's so confident in the elderly vote he can just patronize them at will.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1316194625405751296

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame

Maybe he's so confident in the elderly vote he can just patronize them at will.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1316194625405751296

Trump is aware he's only 3 years younger, right? I mean, he told us he was a senior, because we may not know that. So now America knows. This seems like a particularly poorly thought out attack.

[Iowa_Flames_Fan]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

Trump is aware he's only 3 years younger, right? I mean, he told us he was a senior, because we may not know that. So now America knows. This seems like a particularly poorly thought out attack.

He must be aware of that, but he thinks VOTERS don’t know. That was the funniest part about that video: “many people don’t know that I’m a senior citizen.”

Uh, Don. We know. The spray tan hasn’t fooled anyone for a very long time.

[Iowa_Flames_Fan]

Way too many polls in the last 48 hours but relatively few high quality state polls, I think it’s fair to say:

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com...ident-general/

A couple of notable exceptions: NYT/Siena college had Biden up 51-41 in Wisconsin and 48-40 in Michigan two days ago, and Ipsos has Biden up 51-45 or so (depending on likely voter model) in both Wisconsin and Pennsylvania. Emerson College has Biden up 51-48 in Florida, which makes way more sense than the 10 point lead Quinnipiac have him a week ago and very close to a result from Florida Atlantic University as well. I think Florida is going to be close.

Add to that a slew of Morning Consult and Monmouth battleground polls and it adds up to Biden being up by high single digits in most of the key battlegrounds including the likely tipping point states of Wisconsin and Pennsylvania. He also leads by low single digits (within the margin of error) in North Carolina and trails slightly in nice to have states that he doesn’t need to win (Ohio, Texas, Georgia).

Arizona is harder to figure out but it’s possible he has something of a firewall building between North Carolina and Arizona that would allow him to lose Pennsylvania or Wisconsin and still win the election. If Trump loses Florida or North Carolina it’s probably game over.

Meanwhile, over 13.3 million people have already voted including over 20% of 2016 turnout in Michigan and Wisconsin.

[The Fonz]

Originally Posted by Dion

https://twitter.com/user/status/1316059641931943936

I'm loving this guy. We need more people with his attitude in politics.

[Senator Clay Davis]

Mostly shocking it took this long for us to get here, but I guess it's Hail Mary season after all so it was inevitable.

[SportsJunky]

Just own it Joe. "Yep, we met. Great meeting. Chapter closed. Now can we please get back to your tax returns Donald?"

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by SportsJunky

Just own it Joe. "Yep, we met. Great meeting. Chapter closed. Now can we please get back to your tax returns Donald?"

It was a perfect meeting.

[Ark2]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

Mostly shocking it took this long for us to get here, but I guess it's Hail Mary season after all so it was inevitable.

I'll probably regret asking this, but why is this a non-story? Is it normal that the son of a powerful political figure be given a high paying job that he is in no way qualified for by a company that wants (and supposedly got) access to his father?

[troutman]

Originally Posted by Ark2

I'll probably regret asking this, but why is this a non-story? Is it normal that the son of a powerful political figure be given a high paying job that he is in no way qualified for by a company that wants (and supposedly got) access to his father?

Republican Inquiry Finds No Evidence of Wrongdoing by Biden

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/23/u...s-johnson.html

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Originally Posted by Ark2

I'll probably regret asking this, but why is this a non-story? Is it normal that the son of a powerful political figure be given a high paying job that he is in no way qualified for by a company that wants (and supposedly got) access to his father?

I'll second this. The news is so sensationalist its hard to find actual explanations of what happened here.

Anyone have any non-paywall sources that describe exactly what we know and why it is an issue?

BTW, this is such a problem for me when it comes to the crap being put out by most publications and the nightly news. Everything is a 30s coles notes followed by 3 minutes of partisan messaging and some idiot "political expert" who adds zero context to the story. Meanwhile I'm left with more questions when the story is over than when it began.

It's so bad, I actually get excited when I find in depth reporting. And yes, I'm a hypocrite for wanting free quality news.

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Originally Posted by troutman

Republican Inquiry Finds No Evidence of Wrongdoing by Biden

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/23/u...s-johnson.html

Even this NY Times article doesn't explain the situation and is all about the partisan hackery from the Republicans, and some from the Dems too, to paint this as an issue but they don't actually explain what happened and why it's important.