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Julio · 03-05-2024, 10:45 AM

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Sabu, RVD, Taz, Dreamer, Sandman. After that, it's all 2nd tier ECW talent.

'Borne Again' Doink would be my off the wall pick

But "What about Raven"?

CaptainCrunch · 03-05-2024, 01:51 PM

First of all Paul Heyman's speech will be one for the ages, I assume Tommy Dreamer will induct him.

Second I do think that Raven needs some consideration. That character was money, had a few really contraversial angles and he was Johnny Flamingo and Scotty the Body for crying out loud.

In other news AEW has suspended Sammy over that match with Hardy.

Ozy_Flame · 03-05-2024, 02:05 PM

I would love Raven to be considered. I'd say it's more possible now that Vince is gone. He hated Scott Levy.

rubecube · 03-05-2024, 04:29 PM

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In other news AEW has suspended Sammy over that match with Hardy.

I think this is Sammy's third or fourth suspension? Can't imagine he has many chances left. He also needs AEW more than they need him at the moment.

CaptainCrunch · 03-05-2024, 04:55 PM

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I would love Raven to be considered. I'd say it's more possible now that Vince is gone. He hated Scott Levy.

Its weird to say, but without Raven, ECW is a way different beast. His feud with Sandman was the prime definition of extreme.

You can talk about the Dudly's and Mike Foley's time there, and even Tommy Dreamer when he caught fire, but honestly, Raven drove that engine.

rubecube · 03-06-2024, 10:50 PM

I liked the Okada swerve tonight. I'm guessing the long-term storytelling there is to build to Omega/Okada IV, which I'll never say no to.

rubecube · 03-06-2024, 11:07 PM

God damn, Ospreay with two absolute bangers to start his AEW carer.

Ozy_Flame · 03-07-2024, 05:32 AM

That Ospreys/Fletcher match was incredible. TBH I didn't know Fletcher has that in him.

And Okada!!!

rubecube · 03-07-2024, 10:12 AM

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That Ospreys/Fletcher match was incredible. TBH I didn't know Fletcher has that in him.

And Okada!!!

Fletcher has been putting on great singles matches for a while now. He's only 25, too, and already looks like a future main event guy.

Ozy_Flame · 03-07-2024, 10:37 AM

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Fletcher has been putting on great singles matches for a while now. He's only 25, too, and already looks like a future main event guy.

Mark Davis in shambles

darockwilder · 03-07-2024, 11:31 AM

Dynamite was great this week. I'm starting to wonder if Britt will show back up next week when Mercedes Mone debuts (I'm assuming she will), and maybe Jamie Hayter could appear as well. That would really kick start the women's division I think.

rubecube · 03-07-2024, 11:33 AM

The only thing I didn't like last night was Okada indicating he's going after the Continental title. You can't really bring him in as a main event star and have him go after a midcard belt.

trackercowe · 03-07-2024, 12:09 PM

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The only thing I didn't like last night was Okada indicating he's going after the Continental title. You can't really bring him in as a main event star and have him go after a midcard belt.

Agreed. I don't like him aligning with the Bucks. Just a weird choice. Maybe he needs a mouthpiece, but I wish it was someone other than the Bucks. There is nothing enjoyable about the Bucks...

Throw him into a feud with Osprey, Take, and the Don Callis family. I'm sure they'll end up there, but I agree Okada should start in the main event scene. I hope he's in Edmonton for Dynamite. The three of them (plus Bryan) could have an incredible series of matches.

rubecube · 03-07-2024, 12:23 PM

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Agreed. I don't like him aligning with the Bucks. Just a weird choice. Maybe he needs a mouthpiece, but I wish it was someone other than the Bucks. There is nothing enjoyable about the Bucks...

Not really a weird choice at all. The Bucks' new EVP gimmick has been some of their best work, IMO.

The way they set it up by firing Omega from The Elite first is to get them to Okada vs. Omega down the line. I like it as a form of longterm storytelling rather than what TK would have done last year, which would have been to book Okada/Omega just because it's a good match.

Blaster86 · 03-07-2024, 03:13 PM

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The only thing I didn't like last night was Okada indicating he's going after the Continental title. You can't really bring him in as a main event star and have him go after a midcard belt.

Same #### they did with Omega when the company debuted. I don't get it. You have a guy people are going to tune in to see. Strap a rocket to him! I love Samoa Joe, but that belt should be on Okada a month or two after debut.

I also hate the Bucks, but them leaning into the old WWE style best for business gimmick makes sense. Also gives them an easy avenue for an Okada face turn if they so wish.

d_phaneuf · 03-07-2024, 04:08 PM

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I liked the Okada swerve tonight. I'm guessing the long-term storytelling there is to build to Omega/Okada IV, which I'll never say no to.

I like the move for okada, especially since it looks like ospreay is gonna split from callis soon

That being said, it feels like they have done this debut swerve everytime someone big comes out

Cole was basically the exact same thing

I get that it's a way to get the big pop and still have a monster heel, but come up with something else tony

d_phaneuf · 03-07-2024, 04:10 PM

Agreed on bucks new gimmick, I think it's great

They are must watch now, not just the matches, had been really stale charachter wise for a bit before this

d_phaneuf · 03-07-2024, 04:19 PM

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The only thing I didn't like last night was Okada indicating he's going after the Continental title. You can't really bring him in as a main event star and have him go after a midcard belt.

I can see both sides of it

If you want to get someone over as a heel, Kingston is the guy to do it against

But ya, he should be in main event scene by double or nothing, guessing okada vs Kingston at dynasty and then omega at don or forbidden door? Ospreay trilogy at all out?

Their main event scene is so stacked now, when it was really lacking a few months ago

By the summer assuming everyone's healthy

Kenny, mjf, okada, ospreay, swerve, cole, white, hangman, Copeland?

Mox will be back eventually there even though he could use a real break away from it

Probly missing a few people

Not even including danielson who just seems to want to put people over

d_phaneuf · 03-07-2024, 04:21 PM

American wrestling has never had it so good

trackercowe · 03-07-2024, 04:25 PM

i can't stand the Bucks. Both at talents, and as people. Two smarmy dbags, who conned Tony Khan into thinking they were top talents, when viewership says otherwise. There is nothing entertaining about them to me.

Darby's promo running them down was completely accurate, just because they're playing into "the truth" doesn't make them more credible. Let's see what the ratings have to say now that they are not working with Sting's retirement match.

Meanwhile top talents like FTR, Jay White, Ricky Starks and the Acclaimed have been relegated to midcard duty on shows no one watches. Bucks are great at politicking and working the back. Props to them for that.