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topfiverecords · 10-12-2010, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

In the 25 to 35 spectrum, and in Calgary which is an aging population center, I'm willing to bet that the vast support for McIvor in that age group in the 30 to 35 area.

CC what age group are you in? I think you're out of touch with the 18-35 age group. I am in the 30-35 group and everyone that I know in this age group is voting Nenshi. Also many that are 40+.

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Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

My gut tells me that a lot of the 25-35 would either vote for McIver or Higgens. While the 18 to 25 group if they can be convinced to put down their bongs and turn off Dexter would vote for Nenshi.

Stereotype much? All 18-25 are into drugs and watching Dexter? Seriously??!

Byrns · 10-12-2010, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by fredr123

Helene's website has changed to remove all that "re-elect Helene" stuff likely in response to that heat. I'm guessing she's just re-using signs from her 2007 campaign.

While I won't base my design solely on a Q&A with the Calgary Sun, there is a clear distinction between Jim Stevenson and Gary Tremblay in the way they answered the questions. One might have a bit more appeal to youth than the other. I'll leave that exercise to the reader:

Gary Tremblay: http://www.calgarysun.com/news/calga.../15073456.html

Jim Stevenson: http://www.calgarysun.com/news/calga.../15160866.html

Helene Laracque and PErvais Iqbal MIA.

Gary Tremblay's responses remind me of Creed on The Office.

CaptainCrunch · 10-12-2010, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by topfiverecords

CC what age group are you in? I think you're out of touch with the 18-35 age group. I am in the 30-35 group and everyone that I know in this age group is voting Nenshi. Also many that are 40+.

I'm old ok, older then dirt, you've got me, I'm just board speculating.

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Originally Posted by topfiverecords

Stereotype much? All 18-25 are into drugs and watching Dexter? Seriously??!

I guess I need to start using green text.

seriously

North East Goon · 10-12-2010, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Cowboy89

I lived in Ward 3 when she got ousted and it was funny how in a sleepy Calgary election she managed to come in third despite being an incumbent. But then again she managed to win Ward 3 in 2004 when Nenshi ran 4th in the ward.

Ward 3 is too big, the communities west and east of Deerfoot have very different issues that are facing them.

surferguy · 10-12-2010, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by topfiverecords

CC what age group are you in? I think you're out of touch with the 18-35 age group. I am in the 30-35 group and everyone that I know in this age group is voting Nenshi. Also many that are 40+.

same thing here...

burn_this_city · 10-12-2010, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

I would rather see that poll broken down in age say an 18 to 25 and a 25 to 35.

My gut tells me that a lot of the 25-35 would either vote for McIver or Higgens. While the 18 to 25 group if they can be convinced to put down their bongs and turn off Dexter would vote for Nenshi.

When you have an perceived inaccuracy in polling in a municiple election, I almost write off half of that group as non voters.

Should be interesting, I would prefer to see a fresh face running the city. McIver really lost my vote when he sided against the city auditor, I'm still not sure if I'm sold on Nemshi, because I keep having flash backs to the Obama campaign, and I wonder about his level of execution combined with his lack of experience.

I can't vote for Higgin's because I like substance in my candidates.

Blinky voted to punt the auditor because she was failing to keep up with her responsibilities. Thats the reason the council decided to fire her.

Bunk · 10-12-2010, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by burn_this_city

Blinky voted to punt the auditor because she was failing to keep up with her responsibilities. Thats the reason the council decided to fire her.

Yet, a week earlier he publicly called her a "rock star"

CaptainCrunch · 10-12-2010, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by burn_this_city

Blinky voted to punt the auditor because she was failing to keep up with her responsibilities. Thats the reason the council decided to fire her.

I've never bought into that reasoning. It was a convienient excuse. She started talking about undocumented spending and the possibility of fraud and she goes from Rock Star to lazy ner do well.

Ramsayfarian · 10-12-2010, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by burn_this_city

Blinky voted to punt the auditor because she was failing to keep up with her responsibilities. Thats the reason the council decided to fire her.

She uncovered $750 million in cost overruns. I shudder to think what a "competent" auditor would have found.

burn_this_city · 10-12-2010, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Bunk

Yet, a week earlier he publicly called her a "rock star"

And? When an independent accounting firm says her group only applied 2/11 basic auditing standards can their work even be trusted? It would have been worse optics to vote against firing her. Everyone would be complaining that he supports an incompetent auditor. Its a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation.

Bunk · 10-12-2010, 01:04 PM

Question is why the audit committee (which McIver is on) took so long to even notice that all contracts had gone over budget. Surely you wouldn't have even needed an auditor to notice this. He and much of council just simply don't know the questions to ask. Same deal with the Eau Claire affordable housing fiasco (also a committee which oversees such matters that McIver sits on that missed the boat completely).

burn_this_city · 10-12-2010, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Bunk

Question is why the audit committee (which McIver is on) took so long to even notice that all contracts had gone over budget. Surely you wouldn't have even needed an auditor to notice this. He and much of council just simply don't know the questions to ask. Same deal with the Eau Claire affordable housing fiasco (also a committee that oversees such matters that McIver sits on).

Not sure how the city's procurement system works, but change orders will make intial budgets go over in my company. It sounds like they werent documenting and trending their budgets for the changes. It wouldnt surprise me if theres some shady things behind the scenes, but its hard to believe the auditor when she isnt following basic protocol.

Zee · 10-12-2010, 01:18 PM

So, who's watching the money now?

Zee · 10-12-2010, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by fotze

I was on a governmental audit comittee in the past, and my guess is that it is because they spent 99% of their effort and time perfecting the audit process and 1% of the time actually auditing.

I don't doubt this.

I've done some consulting to a government agencies, and have been in all day meetings with 8-12 people going over the wording/semantics/grammar of documents. What a waste of time it was, I felt guilty just sitting there billing for what was clearly a waste of taxpayer money.

Bobblehead · 10-12-2010, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by kermitology

Funny you mention this.. I was confused by Stevenson and Laroque both having Re-Elect on their signs..

Yeah, the story mentioned how Jim Stevenson initially thought it was just a sign recycling/cost cutting measure, but then noticed that all he new materials also said "Re-Elect"

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Originally Posted by North East Goon

Ward 3 is too big, the communities west and east of Deerfoot have very different issues that are facing them.

This Metro article from last week echoes the same sentiment.
http://www.metronews.ca/calgary/loca...-ways-than-one

And look who has 2 of the 3 comments.

You Need a Thneed · 10-12-2010, 02:15 PM

Just stopped by the Naheedquarters and picked up a couple of buttons and a T-Shirt.

Made another donation too.

ben voyonsdonc · 10-12-2010, 02:32 PM

I'd love it if I could meet some CP'ers! I've been involved in setting up a meet and greet for Nenshi tomorrow night at 5:30 at Club Sapien. Although it is a gay club but it is open to anyone to come out. Sapien has a lounge feel and has great food! It is where Mile One used to be - 11th St and 10th Ave SW.

http://www.facebook.com/#!/event.php...64973900185330

Shazam · 10-12-2010, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Zee

I don't doubt this.

I've done some consulting to a government agencies, and have been in all day meetings with 8-12 people going over the wording/semantics/grammar of documents. What a waste of time it was, I felt guilty just sitting there billing for what was clearly a waste of taxpayer money.

We have a $2500 surcharge for meetings. Strangely it's not really a deterrent.

Mazrim · 10-12-2010, 03:13 PM

Public servants have always been the least efficient of any work groups out there. I'm sure that's a surprise to no one. At my work we always neglect to call City employees on Fridays because we know they've mailed it in for the weekend and don't really get much done. It's a better use of your time if you call on Monday.

Ozy_Flame · 10-12-2010, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Mazrim

Public servants have always been the least efficient of any work groups out there. I'm sure that's a surprise to no one. At my work we always neglect to call City employees on Fridays because we know they've mailed it in for the weekend and don't really get much done. It's a better use of your time if you call on Monday.

I feel like I'm constantly defending City employees here, but believe me - that cliche is tired and overworked. There are plenty of hard-working people who have ALOT on their plate and are going as fast as they can to do a good job for both internal clients and citizens alike.

There are those types who just give up and don't care, but that exists in both the public and private sector. Maybe somewhat more in the public sector, but its not a problem exclusive to government work.