[Trade] Canucks trade Quinn Hughes to the Wild for 2026 1st, Rossi, Buium, and Ohgren

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by jaydub74

Am I right in recalling Hovat was traded because of tension between himself and another player? Was that Miller as well? If so, what a total disaster that acquisition was for Vancouver, Miller basically grenaded their entire team twice.

Not sure, but it does seem like Miller was at the center of a lot of drama.
And Bo seemed committed to the Canucks.

It was the first domino to fall in many ways.

[sureLoss]

One of the issues with Horvat was that he was extremely hot in his last year of his contract.

He scored 31 goals in 49 games.

He was going to demand a big contract the Canucks weren't going to be able to give him in their cap structure.

[The Yen Man]

I hope Hughes wins some cups with Minny. The Wild are a team that's easy to cheer for. Great fanbase, hardworking team, and a city that actually deserves a good hockey team and some success.

[Johnny Makarov]

Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden

I was whining. Ya the majority of peoplehad that line of thought. I get that hindsight is 20-20 but trading youth and agression for butter soft age didnt sit well with me.

Not much whining... lol

No wonder people are so mad at JG if they think that picky UFA's get this much in return as rentals.

I could care less about personal stats. I only care that the Flames punch a ticket to the playoffs.

This will be the newest looking roster since 2014/15.

[Johnny Makarov]

Originally Posted by Reign of Fire

the link isn't working for me, why don't you attach a screenshot!

FU for making me go back into that PTSD thread again... lol

Is pulling a rabbit out of a hat and I Like It a bad thing?? lol

Gotta say Treliving pulled a rabbit out of the hat. Give props where they are due.

https://c.tenor.com/FALPbx0ZFYgAAAAd...-like-that.gif

[TheIronMaiden]

Originally Posted by Johnny Makarov

Not much whining... lol

I don't see how any of that is an endorsement. I am not sure what you're trying to prove.

[Johnny Makarov]

Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden

I don't see how any of that is an endorsement. I am not sure what you're trying to prove.

Yeah but you just posted, that at that time that you hated the trade. and nope you didn't. So you can stop making things up. lol

Every god damn person loved that trade at the time. Who knew Hubey would turn into Jankowski and Tkachuk actually became that cup winning unicorn?!! ugh

[TheIronMaiden]

Originally Posted by Johnny Makarov

Yeah but you just posted, that at that time that you hated the trade. and nope you didn't. So you can stop making things up. lol

Every god damn person loved that trade at the time. Who knew Hubey would turn into Jankowski and Tkachuk actually became that cup winning unicorn?!! ugh

k.

[Cole436]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

One of the issues with Horvat was that he was extremely hot in his last year of his contract.

He scored 31 goals in 49 games.

He was going to demand a big contract the Canucks weren't going to be able to give him in their cap structure.

That 8mil contract he wanted from the Canucks would have been great value today with the rising cap. If Miller had been the one traded instead of Horvat, who knows what would have happened. That’s probably the biggest mistake of Rutherford/Allvins tenure so far.

[sss1]

Originally Posted by Johnny Makarov

Who knew Hubey would turn into Jankowski

LOL this is funny but I think Jankowski is actually a better playoff performer than Hubby at this point

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

I'd love to understand the decision to trade Horvat years ago. That seems like the sliding doors moment for the Canucks. I wonder how things play out if they trade Miller at that time instead of Horvat.

Agreed - baffling. Seemed stupid and misguided at the time, and in retrospect, was the beginning of the end.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by jaydub74

Am I right in recalling Hovat was traded because of tension between himself and another player? Was that Miller as well? If so, what a total disaster that acquisition was for Vancouver, Miller basically grenaded their entire team twice.

That is how I understood it at the time - tension with him and Miller, plus a pending contract. They chose Miller. Then a year or two later, they have a problem with Miller and Pettersson and they chose Pettersson. Not saying the Pettersson decision was wrong, I'm saying the original decision was wrong.

And now, here we are.

OEL
Horvat
Lindholm
Miller
Hughes

That is how you destroy a core!

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by sss1

LOL this is funny but I think Jankowski is actually a better playoff performer than Hubby at this point

Right?

His 3 pts in 23 playoff games absolutely DWARFS Huberdeau's 21 pts in 26 games!

[activeStick]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

I'd love to understand the decision to trade Horvat years ago. That seems like the sliding doors moment for the Canucks. I wonder how things play out if they trade Miller at that time instead of Horvat.

Yup, I am a big fan of Horvat and was suggesting the Canucks shouldn't be trading him away back then too. Has the chops to be a leader and can contribute on the score sheet too. Horvat isn't as sexy as JT Miller though (who I also like a lot) in the production department.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

Wouldn’t surprise me if one of the players who veto’d a trade was Hamilton. He’s already kinda redundant with L Hughes and Nemec on the roster. And he has a big cap hit.



It’s not really being cavalier so much as veteran players have come to expect them. Playing hardball over NTCs at this point would mean higher cap hits and term, and risking hurting the relationship with the player. And when it comes to UFAs, just not getting the player in the first place.

GMs collectively should cut back NTCs, but in the absence of collective enforcement a GM who takes a tough stand on them will just hurt their team.

I suspect the league will eventually step in to save GMs from themselves, by limiting NMCs per team.

[Mitch]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

I suspect the league will eventually step in to save GMs from themselves, by limiting NMCs per team.

Doubt the NHLPA ever signs off on that.

[D as in David]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Right?

His 3 pts in 23 playoff games absolutely DWARFS Huberdeau's 21 pts in 26 games!

Plus, like Kadri, Huberdeau is almost 40 years old.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Mitch

Doubt the NHLPA ever signs off on that.

They've conceded on a fair number of things, starting with a hard salary cap, bonuses, escrow, etc. And the PA always seems swayed by the effect on top players, not rank and file. And top players would still get NMCs even if they were limited.

[Blaster86]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

I'd love to understand the decision to trade Horvat years ago. That seems like the sliding doors moment for the Canucks. I wonder how things play out if they trade Miller at that time instead of Horvat.

Originally Posted by jaydub74

Am I right in recalling Hovat was traded because of tension between himself and another player? Was that Miller as well? If so, what a total disaster that acquisition was for Vancouver, Miller basically grenaded their entire team twice.

Originally Posted by sureLoss

One of the issues with Horvat was that he was extremely hot in his last year of his contract.

He scored 31 goals in 49 games.

He was going to demand a big contract the Canucks weren't going to be able to give him in their cap structure.

All of the above. Horvat and the Canucks had a framework in place that took a blow when Miller's asking number dropped significantly (after the Kadri deal). The plan was still to try and squeeze him in, and then he went on a massive heater and his own asking price went up.

There were rumours that Miller and Horvat did not get along, but that was apparently Pettersson and Miller with Horvat getting sucked into it while trying to mediate (something Hughes apparently refused to deal with ending with him being one of the guys who said Miller had to go).

In the end, losing Horvat was the beginning of the end, not because of how good or bad he was but because of how toxic Miller was (and continues to be in NY).

[Reign of Fire]

Not sure what link "Johnny Makarov" was attaching, but this was my take on the Huberdeau trade/extension. I don't need to hide behind hindsight for my takes.

https://forum.calgarypuck.com/showpo...postcount=3957