06-12-2023, 02:28 PM
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#601
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Cowtown
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Congratulations Huska on successfully falling upwards, im sure it had everything to do with the early playoff exits. If you can get us to a bottom feeder you may even make AGM one day.
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06-12-2023, 02:29 PM
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#602
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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I'm pretty old school when it comes to captains. I want guys who get respect in the room as opposed to the best scorers. First captain I ever watched was Henri Richard and he was far from a big time producer on those Habs. The Bruins had Orr and Esposito but it was Bucyk that was captain. The 89 Flames had two interchangeable forwards as captains (and 3 the prior years) and they weren't the big guns.
So if that's Huberdeau, fine. If it's Backs, fine. If it's Tanev or Weegar, great.
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06-12-2023, 02:31 PM
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#603
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#1 Goaltender
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I'm already not the smartest guy, but I've definitely lost a few more brain cells reading some of the posts in this thread.
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06-12-2023, 02:32 PM
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#604
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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I thought Huberdeau was pulling pretty hard for the last 10 games or so of the season, but he didn't do it consistently all season long. When people say that Huberdeau failed to produce at an acceptable level despite giving it his best, I really didn't see that at all. I saw a player that was used to having line mates in Florida that would do the grunt work for him, and that when it was expected from him, he wasn't able to carry it out. To me, that isn't captain material. You want your captain being the guy that will do anything on the ice to help.
Like I said, he looked like he was starting to get it really late in the season, but it was too little too late.
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06-12-2023, 02:34 PM
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#605
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by Teroy
On the ice. Not by what you think his leadership role was in the dressing room. Not that you think that he played like Suter wanted him to. Not by his commitment to 8 years. Stop making excuses for the guy. He was a bust. Hopefully, he'll earn his 10.5 in the future and show he was worth the expense..
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So you think Connor is just a hell of a Captain for the Oilers then? Because he's great on the ice, how he relates to the team in the room doesn't matter. Being totally selfish and yelling at underperforming players is cool as he puts up lots of points?
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06-12-2023, 02:35 PM
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#606
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by Monahammer
There's nothing more pathetic than wasting time whining about people you think are whiners.
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Unless you work at the Department of Redundancy Department. Then it’s just another day on the job.
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06-12-2023, 02:40 PM
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#607
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction
I thought Huberdeau was pulling pretty hard for the last 10 games or so of the season, but he didn't do it consistently all season long. When people say that Huberdeau failed to produce at an acceptable level despite giving it his best, I really didn't see that at all. I saw a player that was used to having line mates in Florida that would do the grunt work for him, and that when it was expected from him, he wasn't able to carry it out. To me, that isn't captain material. You want your captain being the guy that will do anything on the ice to help.
Like I said, he looked like he was starting to get it really late in the season, but it was too little too late.
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Led the team in 5v5 points the last 20 games of the season (13) and his +10 goal differential at 5v5 (20 GF - 10 GA) was also the best on the team.
He didn't get much credit for it but when the season was on the line down the stretch he's the one that was their best player IMO (Him and Weegar TBH).
I'd be fine with either Weegar or him as captain. I personally lean towards Weegar a little bit though.
I think it might be Andersson though...just based on his own personal experience with Huska from their time in the AHL.
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06-12-2023, 02:42 PM
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#608
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Originally Posted by Infinit47
So you think Connor is just a hell of a Captain for the Oilers then? Because he's great on the ice, how he relates to the team in the room doesn't matter. Being totally selfish and yelling at underperforming players is cool as he puts up lots of points?
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I don’t have any dog in this fight, but you know as well as anyone else that using the Oilers as a barometer for anything but how to fail upward is disingenuous. We have no idea whether Da Conna is a good captain or not because Edmonton might as well be run by a magic 8 ball or a chimp wearing a tie. Complete waste of time trying to discern any kind of reasoning or wisdom from that clown show.
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06-12-2023, 02:44 PM
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#609
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Fair comment by Conroy about Loves experience
However he should have said.
"you can't hurry love
No you just have to wait."
Love should be on staff for all the gold one liners and headlines.
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06-12-2023, 02:52 PM
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#610
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2021
Location: Richmond upon Thames, London
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Head coaching has a mysterious nature to it.
even the brightest hockey minds with a strong understanding of what a team needs to do on the ice can struggle to rally a group of guys to go and execute it and bring a consistently high level of effort.
You have to be a mix of stern dad, one of the guys, mastermind, and sometimes even a bit of an ### kicker.
The best ones aren't always the smartest.
Here's hoping this new trend of smart young coaches with softer personalities than traditional coaches takes hold here too.
I really like the person and the mind, I just hope it translates to the games.
There are a lot of seasoned vets who dragged their feet at times last year. Hopefully Darryl being gone alone jump starts those same guys and they come out with a renewed enthusiasm.
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06-12-2023, 02:52 PM
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#611
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by mrdonkey
I don’t have any dog in this fight, but you know as well as anyone else that using the Oilers as a barometer for anything but how to fail upward is disingenuous. We have no idea whether Da Conna is a good captain or not because Edmonton might as well be run by a magic 8 ball or a chimp wearing a tie. Complete waste of time trying to discern any kind of reasoning or wisdom from that clown show.
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I think it's fair as I responded to someone saying all that mattered in picking a captain was personal performance on the ice...and that's how McDavid was picked.
We've all seen him chirp "lesser" players and be completely selfish on the ice. Even the media sycophants can only drum up the occasional "let's go" to rave about his leadership prowess.
Performance on the ice is not the sole factor in picking a captain, and I think it's less important than having someone who can drag the team into the fight.
McDavid only cares about dragging himself into the fight...the fight to hit the scoresheet.
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06-12-2023, 02:55 PM
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#612
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary, AB
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Locke will be happy to see Sigalet seems to be pleased with the decision...
https://twitter.com/user/status/1668358293520273409
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06-12-2023, 02:56 PM
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#613
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by PaperBagger'14
Congratulations Huska on successfully falling upwards, im sure it had everything to do with the early playoff exits. If you can get us to a bottom feeder you may even make AGM one day.
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good lord why do I even come here
Thinking the coaches with the best records are the best coaches is incredibly short sighted
Is the presidents trophy winner the best coached team each season? roster matters obviously
Mike Babcock was the worlds greatest coach according to many with team Canada and stacked Wings teams
Shame about that 31st place finish, he must have forgot how to coach that season
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06-12-2023, 02:58 PM
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#614
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Join Date: Oct 2021
Location: Richmond upon Thames, London
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Ugh
How big a cheque does someone need to write to get the Flames to part ways with Sigalet..
Guy has overseen goaltending since Kipper and it's been an unmitigated disaster. Might be the worst track record a person could boast.
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06-12-2023, 03:00 PM
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#615
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Originally Posted by getbak
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I'm glad Sigalet's happy with the decision. If the goaltending next season is as terrible as it was last season I'm not sure Huska will be as happy to see Sigalet's face.
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06-12-2023, 03:02 PM
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#616
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: still in edmonton
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I really think mentoring Pelletier after his call up in the back half the season helped Huberdeau focus on something other than the water and oil situation with the HC.
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06-12-2023, 03:04 PM
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#617
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Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ontario
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I think we can all figure out by now that Sigalet has dirt on Murray Edwards. It is the only logical explanation how he still has a job.
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06-12-2023, 03:06 PM
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#618
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Franchise Player
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Awesome to see Snowy there working and being part of the team. Not letting his condition get in the way of contributing.
He's looking great, all things considered.
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06-12-2023, 03:07 PM
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#619
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by dino7c
good lord why do I even come here
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While you put that nicely on a tee, I will not take a swing.....
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06-12-2023, 03:15 PM
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#620
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by The Cobra
While you put that nicely on a tee, I will not take a swing.....
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Come at me bro
I don't dedicate my life to something that makes me miserable
If I hated everything the Flames ever did like some on here I would get a new hobby
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