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Old 01-12-2022, 09:08 AM   #601
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At one job I had, I had to work with the biggest Dbag I'd ever met. We worked amazing together, like great. As soon as work was done, I wanted nothing to do with him. The fact that we worked so well together benefited both of us.

You don't have to like the people you work with as long as you get results. If Kane can help them win games, nothing else matters.
Kane has never helped anybody win.
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Old 01-12-2022, 09:10 AM   #602
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The Hawks have had enough bad publicity for a life time. They won’t go anywhere near him. I’d go almost as afar as saying that is the one team I least see him going to.
Besides, it would just be too confusing in regards to jersey sales.
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Old 01-12-2022, 09:13 AM   #603
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Kane has never helped anybody win.
Didn't the Sharks make the finals with him on the team?
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Kane has never helped anybody win.
The same can be said about most players in the NHL. ROR didn't help anyone win...until he did.

Kane will help the team score goals, or he won't. Either way, at this point we know the team doesn't score enough goals. If the options are to sign Kane and have a better shot at the cup or stick to your morals and be first round fodder again, I know what I'd take.
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At one job I had, I had to work with the biggest Dbag I'd ever met. We worked amazing together, like great. As soon as work was done, I wanted nothing to do with him. The fact that we worked so well together benefited both of us.

You don't have to like the people you work with as long as you get results. If Kane can help them win games, nothing else matters.
Did your coworker also struggle to find work, and jump from one company to tbe next while burning bridges along the way? If not, then I do not see how this analogy fits. I also had a coworker once who developed a terrible reputation for creating controversy everywhere he went—a brilliant and creative guy. He is no longer in the field, and no one misses him.

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Didn't the Sharks make the finals with him on the team?
The Conference Finals, yes, but he played in a much reduced role in the playoffs than he did in the regular season. I don't think he was an especially important contributor in tbat run.

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The same can be said about most players in the NHL. ROR didn't help anyone win...until he did.



Kane will help the team score goals, or he won't. Either way, at this point we know the team doesn't score enough goals. If the options are to sign Kane and have a better shot at the cup or stick to your morals and be first round fodder again, I know what I'd take.
What if the choice is sign Kane and destroy your roster and any goodwill you have built with players along with it, or move forward with the roster that has put together a highly competitive and exciting first-half of the season?

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a highly competitive and exciting first-half of this season and a few stinkers before then. We have no clue what's going on with Johnny or Tkachuck moving forward. This team needs to make a big push this season and poop or get off the pot. They showed on this past trip that they can't hang with the big boys. They need to improve, not just try to improve, they need to. If they have something else in motion, that's great but as crappy of a person as Kane is, he scores goals. You give up nothing to get him. Nothing. They don't have to trade a roster player or futures. There won't be any trades on the market where you can gain that much skill.
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The Conference Finals, yes, but he played in a much reduced role in the playoffs than he did in the regular season. I don't think he was an especially important contributor in tbat run.

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The only forwards who had more ice time per game than him were Hertl and Couture

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The only forwards who had more ice time per game than him were Hertl and Couture

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Yet he was only 11th in team scoring and his number 1 job is to get points.
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Did your coworker also struggle to find work, and jump from one company to tbe next while burning bridges along the way? If not, then I do not see how this analogy fits. I also had a coworker once who developed a terrible reputation for creating controversy everywhere he went—a brilliant and creative guy. He is no longer in the field, and no one misses him.

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a highly competitive and exciting first-half of this season and a few stinkers before then. We have no clue what's going on with Johnny or Tkachuck moving forward. This team needs to make a big push this season and poop or get off the pot. They showed on this past trip that they can't hang with the big boys. They need to improve, not just try to improve, they need to. If they have something else in motion, that's great but as crappy of a person as Kane is, he scores goals. You give up nothing to get him. Nothing. They don't have to trade a roster player or futures. There won't be any trades on the market where you can gain that much skill.

Yea that's a big no from me. Goal scorer or not, the guy is a reprehensible human being, and I highly doubt the Flames or Sutter want an idiot like than anywhere near their locker room.
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Why are you comparing him to Duclair?
Showed upside and offensive instincts, criticized for character concerns, jumped from multiple teams before finding a fit.

I'm sure there are others as well but Duclair is one that comes to mind since he's doing well in Florida.

Or do you only follow the Flames?
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NHL has begun an investigation into how Kane crossed the Border while in COVID protocol. Could be another large suspension if he faked documents again.

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Showed upside and offensive instincts, criticized for character concerns, jumped from multiple teams before finding a fit.

I'm sure there are others as well but Duclair is one that comes to mind since he's doing well in Florida.

Or do you only follow the Flames?
maybe I do only follow the Flames, I don't recall Duclair having character flags ( I do remember some coming out of junior) in the same stratosphere as EK?
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Noooo!!!!!

Come on Edmonton! Sign him now! Right now! Just so he could be suspended on their roster!
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Yet he was only 11th in team scoring and his number 1 job is to get points.

In the 2018-19 finals, Kane had the same number of points as his linemate Hertl, averaged almost a minute more TOI/g than Couture, and was averaging five hits a game (as much as Sam Bennett against Dallas in 2020). He was not the reason that San Jose lost to a defensively tight/superior Blues team.

He is a very good hockey player that puts in a good effort on the ice, and he's the perfect fit for the hole in the Flames' offense right now.

If Treliving isn't pursuing Kane for the reason that he's "bad in the locker room", aka doesn't fit into the white hockey fraternity, that is the wrong move. Sutter has the pedigree to keep Kane in his place and Kane is likely motivated to earn a new contract for next year.



You have to risk it for the biscuit sometimes.

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Old 01-12-2022, 11:05 AM   #618
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Kane has never helped anybody win.
This is absolutely false.
He helped some bookies win!


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