2020 IIHF World Junior Championship - Czech Republic

[Resolute 14]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

I found it. Rule 135 iv



The camera is a structural object.

It's hard to believe that they would allow a camera to be sticking over half in the play like that. Because that's what let the officials out of making the call. The puck was already out of play when it hit the camera. It absolutely should have been a penalty.

That said, we've been on the wrong end of nonsense like that so often, I'm not going to shed a tear for the Russians because they finally got screwed by a call.

[flamesfan6]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

But is it above the ice surface? I think not.


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It isn't - TSN made a point that it's installed behind the glass and not over the ice (and even mentioned to ensure that if it's hit they can call it as delay of game)

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Originally Posted by KootenayFlamesFan

Thank you very much Girly. Now we can all stop feeling bad about how this game ended. It was the right call.

Well, I mean, no. It was either a bad call, or a bad rule.

If the Stanley Cup is won in Game 7 in Overtime on a power play goal after a puck over glass penalty where a player cleared it over the other net from their own end, that's a crappy way to award a championship too, because the puck over glass delay of game rule is a bad rule. So's this one.

I'm not saying it ruined the game or invalidated the result, mind you, I'm just saying it's a bad rule and kind of a crappy way to end it when it was looking like an epic all-time finish one way or the other. Still a great game, and you have no idea whether the Russians would have tied it 6 on 3.

[GioforPM]

Yeah, thanks for the rule lookup. I think it’s still debatable whether the camera is above the ice surface. The angle they had seemed to show the puck over the glass before it hits the camera so that suggests the camera is slightly behind the glass (and therefore the ice).

[Stauner]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

I found it. Rule 135 iv



The camera is a structural object.

So if they hit the main broadcast camera it wouldn't be a penalty?

That camera is out of play and it should have been 5 on 3

[Yamer]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

But is it above the ice surface? I think not.


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Originally Posted by Weitz

It’s outside the playing surface, outside the glass. Even said on the broadcast. Rule doesn’t apply.

Seems to me that while it's mounted behind the glass, the lense appears to hang over or at least flush with the glass. At the very least it can be considered an extension of the glass.

My interpretation.

[KootenayFlamesFan]

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

Well, I mean, no. It was either a bad call, or a bad rule.

If the Stanley Cup is won in Game 7 in Overtime on a power play goal after a puck over glass penalty where a player cleared it over the other net from their own end, that's a crappy way to award a championship too, because the puck over glass delay of game rule is a bad rule. So's this one.

It's the right call and a bad rule. I agree it should be a penalty, but apparently in this tourney it wasn't.

[GioforPM]

It’s pretty Canadian to debate whether we won fairly.

[btimbit]

Even if it was a missed call, it was against team cheater so would anyone really mind?

[DoubleK]

Is it just me or is that the world's ####tiest trophy?

[Yamer]

Originally Posted by Yamer

Seems to me that while it's mounted behind the glass, the lense appears to hang over or at least flush with the glass. At the very least it can be considered an extension of the glass.

My interpretation.

I should qualify that, IMO, the puck was heading out of play before it hit the camera, so likely would have been a penalty had the camera not been there.

There's an argument for either side, here.

[GirlySports]

What if the puck was bending back in?

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

Of course its above the ice surface. The ice surface is the floor.

It was not above the ice surface, it’s above the seats.


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[Aegypticus]

Can you imagine the discussion that could have happened when they were setting up the camera?

“Hey, the camera is sticking over the glass a bit. Should we move it?”
“Nah, why bother? It won’t matter.”

[Stauner]

Originally Posted by DoubleK

Is it just me or is that the world's ####tiest trophy?

Canadian premier league wins that trophy

[AustinL_NHL]

That camera will go down in Canadian history as making one of the most clutch plays EVER at the WJC.

WHAT. A. GAME.

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by AustinL_NHL

That camera will go down in Canadian history as making one of the most clutch plays EVER at the WJC.

WHAT. A. GAME.

Between that and the assistant coach catching the puck, it's been quite a tournament.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by DoubleK

Is it just me or is that the world's ####tiest trophy?

[Scorch]

Originally Posted by DoubleK

Is it just me or is that the world's ####tiest trophy?

I’d say this is. Even Mario’s forced smile tells the awkwardness of touching this piece of trash

[GioforPM]

NSFW!