[News] Oilers fire Chiarelli. Nicholson: "There is something in the water here in Edmonton."

[Toonage]

I like the thought of Chia trying to sneak out during the intermission.

"Hey Mr. Chiarelli! Where you going?"

Uh....need to go out for...uh....gum.

[Stay Golden]

Just let the city of Greasers wallow in their own self pity.
That dysfunctional organization created their own mess when they overpaid Lucic, Draisetl, RNH and yes McBaby. Edmonton was more wrapped in their own self fulfilled stupidity of making the claim to have the most expensive player in the game and bragging about his ridiculous price tag than being intelligent.
That 12.5m per year contract was absurd and still is, letting him be the Captain at his age was another mistake.

I 100% hope Edmonton continues to cater to McDiver instead of making him realize he has to stick an actual system and lead by example but instead they just continue to let him play McDavid 100 mile per hour hockey and that has rubbed off in a negative way on several players that think they can play that same way themselves which leads to making several mistakes. Edmonton as a team leaves the zones way to early and cheat their team responsibility.
They are an extremely chippy and whiney team and with that can and has come quite a bit of self imposed bad charma.
Lets put it this way good things tend to happen for good people. The Oilers squad for the most part are not a good character squad.

Anyways Edmonton please feel free to continue to play like D-Bags & make the same smug mistakes by learning nothing from the errors of your ways.
Signed Calgary Flames fans.

[powderjunkie]

Originally Posted by jayswin

How did they let this happen? If you were going to fire him due to stupid moves and signings why did you not put a freeze on said stupid moves and signings?

Haven't read the whole thread, but has anyone suggested that maybe Katz' son read neutral observers reactions () to the Koskinen signing and told his dad?

[OldDutch]

Originally Posted by Toonage

I like the thought of Chia trying to sneak out during the intermission.

"Hey Mr. Chiarelli! Where you going?"

Uh....need to go out for...uh....gum.

Gets email morning of game.

“Memo: Would all GM’s please enter their executive press box and close the door and not leave until a member of our HR department knocks on your door”

Chia: eff this I allready read the layoff thread on CP, I am calling in sick!

[StAlbertFlame]

Originally Posted by Geeoff

Didn't fire Lowe, MacTavish and Nicholson. Didn't blow up their pro and amateur scouting. I'm not worried.

Ahhhh, It is comforting that the Oilers "old boys club" is still intact!!!

[Reggie Dunlop]

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmon...990685?cmp=rss

[browna]

So no Lowe McT at this, letting Nicholson earn the money and take the hits. Lowe front and center in importance though. Group decisions to be made (by Lowe) as most have been since Hitchcock.

Tambelleni too was a young hot GM commodity at the time, and wanted to be a GM just desperately enough to over look the warning signs. Same is going to happen here, find a guy wanting to be a GM just bad enough that he's going to allow Lowe to "work with him". Thst way Lowe can create the rules of engagement and meddle in with his years of experience as his excuse . The new GM will be a puppet in now time.

But that's next year, thus year we get to look forward to more bold moves like locking up an unproven backup goalie midseason, more to spite the UFA goalie they have no discarded then any other rational reason. And, like this group did, bringing in schlubs like Manning etcetc.

Letting Chia off the hook in the second period of a game, giving him about a 4h head start to Nisku and the airport before announcing, so he couldn't be tracked down.

So much arrogance and ego back in the picture now that Lowe is back in charge, it's going to be great as he continues where he left off.

The press back on board now that they ran Chia out of town as far as the public goes and spit on him as leaving as is common practice up there. The first move.is going to trigger said press to again start kissing the boots of the execs and hope.is going to be for sale.


Truly a glorious time to be a Flames fan.

[cral12]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1088189190120960000

[GGG]

So all I can think of from the press conference is the anti/fluoride people using the Edmonton Oilers as proof that fluoride causes brain damage and hurts development

[Locke]

It all makes sense now....that was the water they were using to mix the Kool-Aid.

Brilliant stuff.

[Calgary4LIfe]

There is zero reason to fear about Edmonton turning it around now or in the foreseeable future. Why?


They don't have much in the way of assets. Sure, they can trade futures for players 'now', but that is only going to get them so far (not very), and in time, it will come back to bite them again sooner rather than later.


Look at how Calgary was MISERABLE at drafting and developing. It wasn't until Darryl Sutter came in that in 2008 him (with Todd Button) identified what they wanted in prospects, and started expanding the drafting and development departments on the Flames. People will complain that Darryl 'sucked at drafting', but there are still good pieces from his time here on the Flames making huge contributions.


Feaster came in and just allowed the staff to do their jobs. Well, almost. He hired a few other scouts.


I honestly don't know what Treliving has further done under the drafting and development umbrella (I know there has been a few moves, but I can't quite remember everyone). At any rate, it continues to be an area that this organization keeps tinkering with, and it is an area of this organization that I think at this point, few people would argue as being huge for the current success of the Flames.


I don't care who is the GM of the Oilers. It is going to take YEARS to turn that organization around the right way. Their drafting and development is broken. That's been one of the biggest reasons why Calgary pulled itself out of the gutter, as it already had been working on it for so long.


The Oilers don't have much coming up the pipeline. Sure, they have Bouchard (very much a question mark IMO, but at least a guy with a fairly high ceiling if he makes it). Yamamoto? Bear? Jones?



I hope that Puljujarvi gets traded to a team out east somewhere for a vet. I bet that team can still turn him around. Another season or two and he will be Yak'd. Puljujarvi, IMO, was almost a sure thing as far as prospects go. Questionable as to how great he would be, but a team had to be horrible at development to screw this kid up considering his assets at the time. Now he looks confused, and he is constantly second-guessing himself all the time.


Thank goodness that the Flames were not so inept that they hired Hartley and made these kids work and earn their ice time, but maintained a bunch of smart vets to shelter them and teach them how to be pros. Feaster was embarrassing, but he did see the need to remain competitive, and he was damn right. However, he screwed up Baertschi by forcing Hartley to keep him up, and Baertschi started getting that 'Oiler glow' all over him.



The Oilers are between a rock and a hard place. They sold off all their assets. They may have the most toxic culture in the NHL. They are not a FA destination with how cold the city is. They have pissed off 29 other GMs (Vegas is not one of them, since they weren't around then) by 'winning' so many lotteries. Nobody is going to do them any favours. Nobody is wanting to go there and play for them except players that are deciding between continuing their careers in the AHL or Russia.



I don't care who they replace Chiarelli with - or Keith Gretzky - they aren't going anywhere any time soon. They don't just need to get rid of the OBC. They need to get rid of their entire scouting department (again! haha), and also their development personnel it seems. Heck, they need to look at themselves as an expansion team and go from there. That's the state that they are in, IMO.


I think there is at least a 3 year window in which we can see the Oilers trying to win more lotteries. FFS NHL, change the damn lottery rules right now. It would have been awesome to see McDavid ripping it up in the East somewhere with a decent (by now) team. Or Puljujarvi. Or anyone else for that matter. Everyone just sucks in Edmonton.

[Phagoof]

I've come to the conclusion, the only thing "in the water" in Edmonton is lead.

[Erick Estrada]

Ha ha ha Burke on 960 this morning basically shooting down Nicholson saying that Chiarelli was making these moves on his own. While he started with "I don't know what goes on in Edmonton" he said Calgary was the same as any other team he worked for in that the GM consults with everyone in management before making any deals. He said the notion that Chiarelli was doing these moves on his own without input from Nicholson, Gretzky, Lowe, etc is "asinine".

[Gaudfather]

The Oilers got a "generational" player in McDavid but have immersed him into a "generational" mess of an organization, that is still going to take years to sort itself out.

If they do start to sort it out, (a big "if" by the way) it will be when McDavid will be booking himself a one way ticket out of Greaserville.

[Rick M.]

There is something in the water here in Edmonton: the loser virus.

[Wolfman]

My question is...where does the new GM even start?

[Resolute 14]

Originally Posted by Wolfman

My question is...where does the new GM even start?

By demanding a very large salary of his own.

[Itse]

My current hope is that they didn't fire Chiarelli for the moves he made, but because he couldn't /wouldn't make the move they wanted him to make, which is buy Something That Will Magically Fix Everything with their 1st round draft pick (+prospects), as rumoured. Or at least he didn't do it fast enough.

I really feel like the Oilers aren't done destroying their team yet for this season.

[CroFlames]

They need another rebuild, simple as that.



The complicated part is that THIS season they need to make the playoffs for business purposes, therefore they need to mortgage the future to build around McIcetime.



Come next season when they begin to sell hope again, McDangles likely asks for a trade. Five seasons is already too long for a superstar to wait around for the team to become competitive.



Uh oh, they traded their future assets in 18-19 to limp into the playoffs and now they have nothing to rebuild with.



This is just the beginning of the Oilers problems folks. Enjoy this.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by Itse

My current hope is that they didn't fire Chiarelli for the moves he made, but because he couldn't /wouldn't make the move they wanted him to make, which is buy Something That Will Magically Fix Everything with their 1st round draft pick (+prospects), as rumoured. Or at least he didn't do it fast enough.

I really feel like the Oilers aren't done destroying their team yet for this season.

I think that was made abundantly obvious when Bob Nicholson proclaimed that the Oilers would conduct an exhaustive search to find the right candidate who fit the Oilers culture. This announcement does not get nearly enough traction and attention in the sh*t storm of the past few days, but to my thinking was perhaps the most devastatingly obvious indication of what is clearly wrong with the Oilers, and why this will not be fixed with the next General Manager.