05-11-2016, 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by CliffFletcher
The Blues are plenty skilled. Tarasenko, Schwartz, Fabbri, Lehtera, Stastny, Shattenkirk, Pietrangelo. And their third line of Berglund-Backes-Steen is as skilled as any third line in the league.
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Responses like this are always inevitable... Every team in the NHL is "skilled" and has "skilled players". However, that's different from talking about whether they play a "skill game", as opposed to a structured, defensively sound one. No Hitchcock-coached team will ever be a "skill team", because that is not his style. What we're talking about is the style of play being employed.
The Blues and Kings and Bruins are better at hockey than the Avalanche and Oilers, and are therefore more "skilled". However, the former teams do not play a skill game, while the latter do (to no particularly good effect).
The point is that there are different ways to win. The way games are called in the playoffs, though, usually seems to favour teams that play a tighter-checking, physical style that involves a lot of work along the boards and down low, in conjunction with puck possession.
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05-11-2016, 10:21 AM
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#602
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That Crazy Guy at the Bus Stop
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Springfield Penitentiary
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Weird. This same discussion is happening in the Dallas thread.
CHL I would argue that the Pens, Blackhawks, Lightning don't play the style you're talking about...they seem to be doing ok.
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05-11-2016, 10:25 AM
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#603
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Yeah exactly, that's what we were saying, if the Stars and Sharks advance, it's only "skill teams" left like those you mention, which is a nice change. Though to be honest, I don't know how to categorize the Sharks anymore.
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05-11-2016, 10:28 AM
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That Crazy Guy at the Bus Stop
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Springfield Penitentiary
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I actually think it isn't some super crazy formula.
The teams with the fewest injuries, best players, most depth and key players at key positions (#1C, #1D, #1G) win. Oh and luck.
I don't think there is any magic formula. Why has St Louis or SJ or Wash never won but LA and Chicago have? Is it purely just depth or skill or playoff rules? I think it is that it is real tough to win 4 straight 7 game series and some teams just haven't had the right mix of the above to do it.
Does that mean the Flames don't need to get bigger and meaner, not really, they are on the small and soft end of things. Does it mean we need to be a big bad black and blue team to do it? Absolutely not. I actually think it is easier than people think. Replace Hudler with a big body. Replace Russell with a big body and account for Johnny's frame being 40lbs lighter than anyone else and we probably are average weight and height in the NHL.
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05-11-2016, 10:33 AM
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I agree with you that it's all of those things. However, there's a sort of meme about the style of play that wins in the playoffs, and like many stereotypes, there's at least some truth to it. The way the rules change in the postseason does act as a drag on the success of high-skill teams, in that what brought you a lot of wins in the regular season doesn't work quite as well.
Meanwhile, another team, which was already good in the regular season (which is why it made the playoffs in the first place), is suddenly playing in a context that emphasizes its strengths even more. Shouldn't surprise anyone that that team gets a bit more of an edge. It's not a magic formula, but it does make a difference.
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05-11-2016, 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Weitz
Ovi was their best player.
If anyone else on that team showed up to play in the second round the result could be different. Its on everyone except maybe Ovi and Oshie. Everyone else was pretty awful.
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You definitely need to add Holtby to that list.
Man, it seemed like the Caps finally had the right mix of players, coach, goaltender and structure this year.
I think they need to sell the farm and go for broke and acquire OEL. Perhaps that puts them over the hump. Assuming they can afford the cap space.
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05-11-2016, 11:02 AM
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It's not like they choked. The Pens are legitimately a really, really good hockey team, and they beat another really good hockey team in the Caps. It's not like they lost to the Minnesota Wild.
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05-11-2016, 11:10 AM
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Honestly the Caps could try again next year with the exact same team and be even more successful. Just because they lost to another good team doesn't make them a bad one.
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05-11-2016, 04:35 PM
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Calgary
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Yup, just minor tweaks to the 4-6 defensemen, and they should be good to go. Slightly off topic, but does anyone know if Madison Bowey is ready to make the jump to the NHL. He was a guy I wanted the Flames to draft.
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05-12-2016, 04:19 PM
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#610
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Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Sunshine Coast
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Sports reporter drinks on air after Capitals loss.
https://streamable.com/1end
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