2015 NFL Offseason Thread

[Pagal4321]

Originally Posted by rubecube

Doubt it. The owners love him.

While I don't disagree, he just pissed of the owner that was his biggest fan, the guy who is responsible for the position he is in today and the owner who heads the NFL Broadcast Committee.

If Robert Kraft turns into a Goodell detractor, he won't last long.

[corporatejay]

Originally Posted by Pagal4321

While I don't disagree, he just pissed of the owner that was his biggest fan, the guy who is responsible for the position he is in today and the owner who heads the NFL Broadcast Committee.

If Robert Kraft turns into a Goodell detractor, he won't last long.

Depends on how some of the other powerful owners feel (Rooney, Mara, Lurie, Biscotti, Jones etc..). Given he's probably pissed off Rooney and Biscotti it could be the end.

[rubecube]

I know Snyder and Jones are pretty big fans of the guy. No clue about Lurie because Lurie hardly ever gives interviews.

[Papi34]

LOL.

So brady will come back with a fire lit under his ass run the table and be well rested for another superbowl run. Thanks Goodell!

4 time superbowl champ

Chump Goodell bitter his jets are still a basement team!

[Senator Clay Davis]

Of course Kraft loved Goodell when he was destroying the Spygate evidence. I also seriously doubt he had any problems with the Saints punishment, or the Cowboys and Redskins losing $40 million+ in cap money. But now that it's finally actually affected him, he's not so cool with it. Sounds like sour grapes to me, like he expected Goodell to protect him and is really pissed he didn't.

[Pagal4321]

Wonder what's going to happen to the officiating crew in charge of the Deflategate game?
Clearly they didn't do their job until someone told them to.

[Sainters7]

Obviously for a fan, the two 1st round picks is the worst part. But as for the Brady suspension, do we really think in the end he's going to serve 4 games?

He's going to appeal and probably have it knocked down to 2. If anything, I saw the 4 games more as a way to ensure he gets a couple games, as opposed to a 2 games and have it knocked down to 1.

I will be surprised if the 4 game suspension holds up through the appeal process.


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[troutman]

Dude (Boston reporter) on Jim Rome Show today thought it would get reduced to 1-2 games if Pats agree not to go nuclear on law suits.

[MacDaddy77]

I see it being reduced to pre-season only.

[Flabbibulin]

No way the Pats do the superbowl banner stuff on the season opener if Brady is out.

[dirk diggler]

I see John Elway is spouting off on how the punishment was correct and all about the integrity of the game, the same Elway who helped the Broncos cheat and get around the salary cap and win 2 super bowls.... classic

[nik-]

I'm not a Pats fan in the slightest, in fact I don't really like them, but this suspension is an embarrassment for the league.

They just spent a year getting raked over the coals for the spousal abuse issue and the laughable Ray Rice suspension and they suspend a guy who lied in an investigation for twice as long as the guy who uppercut his wife in the face.

Goddell is a trainwreck.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Hatter

Punishment seems a bit harsh to me. A couple games and a fine probably would have sufficed. Brady could be throwing bowling balls out there and still rack up TDs.

It will be interesting to see how Garropolo fares for the first few weeks.

I think the rationale used when handing out suspensions is that it will be appealed and reduced so they purposely set the punishment higher as if the NFL truly felt a two game suspension was warranted they would surely not suspend him for 2 games knowing he would end up only serving 1 game or possibly none after an appeal.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by nik-

I'm not a Pats fan in the slightest, in fact I don't really like them, but this suspension is an embarrassment for the league.

They just spent a year getting raked over the coals for the spousal abuse issue and the laughable Ray Rice suspension and they suspend a guy who lied in an investigation for twice as long as the guy who uppercut his wife in the face.

Goddell is a trainwreck.

I don't think some of you realize what happened. Brady's cronies at his request removed the balls from the NFL's possession without consent, deflated them 16% below the NFL minimum inflation, and then replaced them. It's a premeditated and highly organized breaking of the rules and I'm actually stunned how many people seem to think it's no big deal and acceptable because other teams in the past may or may not have done it. The fact is they did it and got caught and IMO a team playing with balls inflated to 10.5 psi when the rest of the league is using balls in the range of 12.5-13.5 psi it clearly providing an advantage. It would be no different if a home team in the NHL was modifying pucks somehow (using say a heavier puck) that played to the strengths of their team. How many NHL fans would shrug that off? Not many I'm willing to bet.

I realize we live in an age where many think it's okay to steal music and movies because studios make lots of money but the fact is if the most important thing about all sports is integrity as without that it's simply WWE.

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

I don't think some of you realize what happened. Brady's cronies at his request removed the balls from the NFL's possession without consent, deflated them 16% below the NFL minimum inflation, and then replaced them. It's a premeditated and highly organized breaking of the rules and I'm actually stunned how many people seem to think it's no big deal and acceptable because other teams in the past may or may not have done it. The fact is they did it and got caught and IMO a team playing with balls inflated to 10.5 psi when the rest of the league is using balls in the range of 12.5-13.5 psi it clearly providing an advantage. It would be no different if a home team in the NHL was modifying pucks somehow (using say a heavier puck) that played to the strengths of their team. How many NHL fans would shrug that off? Not many I'm willing to bet.

I realize we live in an age where many think it's okay to steal music and movies because studios make lots of money but the fact is if the most important thing about all sports is integrity as without that it's simply WWE.

Uh no, we realize all of that. However, we also realize that at the end of the day it's just a game, whereas bouncing your wife's head off the inside of an elevator actually has real-world consequences, and therefore should be punished more severely.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by rubecube

Uh no, we realize all of that. However, we also realize that at the end of the day it's just a game, whereas bouncing your wife's head off the inside of an elevator actually has real-world consequences, and therefore should be punished more severely.

You are arguing apples to oranges here as what Rice committed a crime outside of the game punishable by law. Brady broke league rules within the sport and Rice broke NFL conduct rules. Go argue NFL conduct rules punishment the next time a player gets caught drinking and driving or using drugs. I'm an NFL fan so the integrity of the game matters to me. I don't really care how Rice's punishment stacks up against this because this is about Deflategate not Ray Rice.

[Pagal4321]

http://yourteamcheats.com/

[Cheese]

dunno if this was posted from the link above:

SUMMARY: Ex-Jets and Retired Pro Bowl quarterback Jeff Blake confessed in an interview that removing air from footballs was common when he played in the NFL from 1992-2005.
"I'm just going to let the cat of the bag, every team does it, every game, it has been since I played," the ex-Jets QB said Wednesday in a radio interview on the "Midday 180" show on Nashville's 104.5 The Zone. "Cause when you take the balls out of the bag, they are rock hard. And you can't feel the ball as well. It's too hard.
"Everybody puts the pin in and takes just enough air out of the ball that you can feel it a little better. But it's not the point to where it's flat. So I don't know what the big deal is. It's not something that's not been done for 20 years."
Blake says that he'd order ball boys to let air out of his footballs just before the start of games during his entire NFL career, which included time with the Jets in 1992.
VICTIM: The entire league
PUNISHED? No

[troutman]

SUMMARY: Mike Reiss of ESPNBoston.com, noted that during the November 30, 2014 game between the Packers and Patriots on CBS, Jim Nantz and Phil Simms discussed the preference of Green Bay Packer quarterback Aaron Rodgers for overinflated footballs.

"'I like to push the limit to how much air we can put in the football, even go over what they allow you to do and see if the officials take air out of it,'" Simms said Rodgers told them before the game.

PUNISHED? No

[troutman]

Dr. Ted Wells (note: not a real doctor) determined that the balls of both the Patriots and the Colts were a little too limp and squishy during the first half of the 2015 AFC Championship Game.

Although the Wells investigation was hired by the NFL to dig up dirt implicating the Patriots, it actually unwittingly uncovered the Colts own ball deflation cheating. At halftime AND at the end of the game, four Colts' footballs were tested and in both cases 3 out of the 4 footballs were found to be deflated below the legal 12.5 PSI minimum on at least one official's gauge (p 69 & p 73 of the hugely expensive Wells Report).

PUNISHED? No