Jian Ghomeshi no longer with CBC

[troutman]

Good analysis Captain:

CBC's Ghomeshi Investigation a Cover-up Before it Begins

http://canadalandshow.com/article/cb...over-it-begins

The fix is in.

Information released today by Chuck Thompson, CBC's Head of Public Affairs, reveals the broadcaster's impending 3rd party investigation of the Ghomeshi scandal to be a pre-determined cover-up and whitewash.

Lawyer Janice Rubin's report will never be released to the public. What's more, the CBC now admits that Rubin has been contracted only to investigate past and present employees of Ghomeshi's shows, Q and Play. Rubin has no powers to demand answers, and no mission to learn who knew what and when. Participation in the investigation seems to be entirely voluntary.

Most strikingly, Rubin has no mandate to look into CBC management's role in the Ghomeshi affair whatsoever.

Why would the CBC hire a repeat contributor to lead its Ghomeshi investigation?

http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/...investigation/

[CaptainCrunch]

Yeah, I forgot that the report was never going to be released to the public. What will come out is a press conference where the CBC will slap each other on the back about making some minor policy changes, and then look at the camera with sad eyes and say "We promise that this will neeeeeever eveeeeer happen again".

If they were this permissive with Jian and what he was doing, how many other people are getting away with this kind of garbage?

This thing is an anthill that needs to be busted open.

[killer_carlson]

CBC wont get out of this one.

Parliament will hang people out to dry over this. Any attempt to perpetuate the cover up will see a race by the Tories, Libs and NDP to see who demand accountability first.

[Hack&Lube]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

To me looking at the internal investigations parameters of the CBC, its clear that CBC is in pretty much cover up and damage control

1) The lawyer can't approach people, the complainants have to approach her. So if one of the people that approaches her with a complaint stats that senior executive knew and did nothing, she can't approach that executive its up to him to go to her

2) The final report is about give us suggestions and nothing to do with what happened, so the truth doesn't have to come out, this is merely a feel good report

3) The investigation is confined to Q employees and Q management, it can't go outside of that boundry to look at the CBC executive suite.

The feeling is that the executives, including their senior HR officials knew that this was going on and did nothing because this scumbag was garnering ratings.

This really should be in hearings at Parliment hill. It sounds like the CBC executives have been lying about what they know, and their so called shocked surprise is disingenuous.

I've said for a while that Lacroix should have been fired for using his CBC expense account like another paycheck. But this is looking like a cover up and the cover has to be ripped up and the rats in the executive suite grilled.

This sounds more and more like Canada's version of the BBC's cover-up of the Jimmy Savile scandal, except the Savile issue was much more institutionalized and they turned a blind eye for what was probably decades as to his predation on children and younger women.

I regret my earlier comments blaming the CBC for taking action against what appeared to be consensual activities but as more and more victims come out, it's totally clear that Ghomeshi was an abusive predator and the CBC was trying to protect it's asset by hiding this.

[CaptainCrunch]

Yes I'll admit that I was watching Sun T.V. this morning, what can I say I really like Alex Person.

But they bought up an interesting point and its a long logic train.

But if there are warranted charges if a CBC employee goes to the RCMP and if Jian goes to court and gets convicted, the CBC becomes just a culpable to this criminal activity as if they were directly involved if they do cover this up.

[troutman]

It seems likely the CBC made some mistakes, but I don't like how commentators on the right are taking political advantage of the situation to further an agenda against the public broadcaster. This could have happened at any network, public or private.

If the CBC is culpable for the criminal activity, why not every other organziation and individual that knew Jian was a "bad date"?

Criminal negligence
219. (1) Every one is criminally negligent who
(a) in doing anything, or
(b) in omitting to do anything that it is his duty to do, shows wanton or reckless disregard for the lives or safety of other persons.

Definition of “duty”
(2) For the purposes of this section, “duty” means a duty imposed by law.
R.S., c. C-34, s. 202.

[GGG]

The only thing CBC did wrong appears to not responding to one complaint to a senior producer of the show. The rest of the evidence is showing that the CBC knew he was an ####### but not a predator.

The important thing to come out of this for the CBC is to ensure there is a better method for reporting sexual misconduct outside of the hieracrchy of the show. My one question is where was CBCs union on this. They seem like the outside the hierarchy channel that could have been used to report this.

[bluejays]

The CBC union like a typical union. Everywhere when not needed, but nowhere to be found when wanted.

[DownhillGoat]

Originally Posted by GGG

My one question is where was CBCs union on this. They seem like the outside the hierarchy channel that could have been used to report this.

Given the nature that a lot of the complaints seem to be from interns/non-permanent positions, they wouldn't have been covered by the union.

[MarchHare]

Originally Posted by kunkstyle

Given the nature that a lot of the complaints seem to be from interns/non-permanent positions, they wouldn't have been covered by the union.

Didn't the original complainant, who spoke with the Toronto Star, claim that she raised the issue with her union rep?

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by GGG

The only thing CBC did wrong appears to not responding to one complaint to a senior producer of the show. The rest of the evidence is showing that the CBC knew he was an ####### but not a predator.

The important thing to come out of this for the CBC is to ensure there is a better method for reporting sexual misconduct outside of the hieracrchy of the show. My one question is where was CBCs union on this. They seem like the outside the hierarchy channel that could have been used to report this.

I don't know if I agree, and CBC has certainly not earned the benefit of the doubt. they didn't set up a team to create a defense strategy for Jian and themselves way before this blew up because he was an $$$$$$$.

If they didn't know they have nothing to hide and should have an actual proper investigation instead of this side show that's not designed to get at the truth.

If members of the CBC executive team knew that this kind of conduct was happening, then frankly the CBC boardroom needs to be cleared out with a flame thrower.

[GGG]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

I don't know if I agree, and CBC has certainly not earned the benefit of the doubt. they didn't set up a team to create a defense strategy for Jian and themselves way before this blew up because he was an $$$$$$$.

If they didn't know they have nothing to hide and should have an actual proper investigation instead of this side show that's not designed to get at the truth.

If members of the CBC executive team knew that this kind of conduct was happening, then frankly the CBC boardroom needs to be cleared out with a flame thrower.

If they were aware of the unreported sexual harassment they should be fired
If they were aware of the reported case of the harassment they should be fired.

If they just let him be an ass hole boss I'm not sure firing them is appropriate.

I think the CBC managers are like Katz and his love of the 80s oilers. Blinded by celebrity.

[CaptainCrunch]

And that's why there needs to be a proper investigation.

Not the one that they intend on doing.

The optics of the guidlines for this investigation and the lawyer that they're using are horrible.

Its like letting a prisoner investigating a jail house murder committed by his bunk mate.

[GGG]

They need to do a proper investigation but what powers can they grant someone. It's not like a judicial inquiry where you can be compelled to testify. It's essentially an HR investigation the CBC can't get more information than that. There are probably privacy restrictions in releasing the report.

So I will wait and see before I jump on the CBC for trying to cover it up.

[troutman]

Jian withdraws civil suit and pays CBC $18K in legal costs.

Will pursue union grievance for reinstatement.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/jian-g...rawn-1.2849523

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/...ticle21759659/

According to the CBC, Mr. Ghomeshi will now contest his dismissal through a grievance for reinstatement already filed with the help of the union that represents him, the Canadian Media Guild.

A lawyer representing Mr. Ghomeshi, Jonathan Lisus, confirmed the lawsuit “has been resolved” and that “Mr. Ghomeshi will address all issues in the lawsuit in binding arbitration in accordance with the collective agreement between them.”

[Regulator75]

^^^ link.
http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2014/11...n_6220276.html

[Tyler]

Originally Posted by troutman

Will pursue union grievance for reinstatement.

[MissTeeks]

“@660News: #BREAKING: Jian #Ghomeshi facing 5 charges, incl. 4 counts of sexual assault, Toronto police say. More to come”

“@660News: #Ghomeshi surrendered to police today. He is scheduled to appear in court this afternoon.”

“@omarsachedina: Toronto Police: Jian Ghomeshi charged with 4 counts of Sexual Assault, and 1 count of Overcome Resistance - Choking.”

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by Regulator75

^^^ link.
http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2014/11...n_6220276.html

Originally Posted by MissTeeks

“@660News: #BREAKING: Jian #Ghomeshi facing 5 charges, incl. 4 counts of sexual assault, Toronto police say. More to come”

“@660News: #Ghomeshi surrendered to police today. He is scheduled to appear in court this afternoon.”

“@omarsachedina: Toronto Police: Jian Ghomeshi charged with 4 counts of Sexual Assault, and 1 count of Overcome Resistance - Choking.”

What a difference a day makes.

[troutman]

In court this afternoon - we will see an unprecedented Canadian media fire-storm. Twitter is exploding.

I think more charges will be laid, as more victims see that the process is working.