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Old 07-20-2014, 11:14 AM   #601
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Yeah....ummmm hitting military targets and cheering that occurance is a LOOOOOONG way from "sitting on beaches, laughing and having parties".

But keep the nonsensical hyperbole up...it really helps in civil discourse.
Well if you define a party as a social gathering of guests for the purposes of entertainment, then by definition, yes they are having a party.

I heard some laughing in that video along with the cheering, so yes there was laughing.

They're sitting on hilltops though, not beaches, so I'll give you that.
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Well if you define a party as a social gathering of guests for the purposes of entertainment, then by definition, yes they are having a party.

I heard some laughing in that video along with the cheering, so yes there was laughing.

They're sitting on hilltops though, not beaches, so I'll give you that.
So what. kids cheering at destruction of the enemy isn't new pal. I hope you aren't calling Jews uncivilized when compared to muslims or arabs

- At least they don't have parades with giant posters of the idiot who just blew himself up like the Palestinians do.

- or have a thousand people come and cheer a public hanging for just being born gay

- have giant partys to throw rocks...at a buried persons head because they had an affair or married the wrong person.

Sorry man but muslims take the global cake for being uncivilized, it's sickening.
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Sorry man but muslims take the global cake for being uncivilized, it's sickening.

Easy with the extreme prejudice. That statement is uncalled for.
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Palestinian reaction on 9/11....just dreadful.


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So what. kids cheering at destruction of the enemy isn't new pal. I hope you aren't calling Jews uncivilized when compared to muslims or arabs

- At least they don't have parades with giant posters of the idiot who just blew himself up like the Palestinians do.

- or have a thousand people come and cheer a public hanging for just being born gay

- have giant partys to throw rocks...at a buried persons head because they had an affair or married the wrong person.

Sorry man but muslims take the global cake for being uncivilized, it's sickening.
I'm Not calling jews uncivilized. There's lots of Jews on here that are either on the Palestinian side or don't care either way.

You on the other hand should tone down the racist comments. You're the only one being uncivilized around here. You're truly an ignorant and bigoted piece of trash.
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I don't know if you're being intentionally dense here. Seriously read it again.

1 - Ultimatum - Get the people of Gaza to leave to Sinai (expulsion)

2 - Attack - Essentially attack everything the IDF wants without consideration for who's in there (massacre)

3 - Siege - Nothing comes in, everyone is allowed out though (expulsion)

4 - Conquer - Conquer Gaza and use all military means to secure occupation without consideration for anything else. (massacre)

5 - Elimination - Eliminate all armed combatants and allow everyone else to leave (expulsion)

6 - Sovereignty - Make Gaza part of Israel because God gave it to the Jews and the Arabs shouldn't have been there in the first place. Plus it fixes Israel's housing problem. (expulsion)

Plus there's a few references in the original document that define Gazans as "the enemy population".
What else would they be called? It's a war...
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http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...shells-in-gaza

White phosphorus and shrapnel shells in densely populated areas.

I know captaincrunch is particularly abhorrent of the "ball bearings" in the rockets used by Hamas.

Surely, flechette rounds will illicit an even stronger reaction from him.
Neither side is exactly Emily Post here. I would prefer that Israel not use things like Flechette shells. At the end of the day Israel will still have to live with the Palestines in close proximity.

I am onboard with an operation that is focused around the destruction of the tunnels, destruction of weapons cache's and an added bonus of the removal of Hamas from a leadership position or at least the destruction of Hamas' military wing.

I so strongly condemn the use of in discriminant anti personal weapons in a dense civilian area. Whether its the Palestines and their rockets or Israel and heavy artillary.

Make no mistake though, realistically these rounds are literally no different then your standard air burst artillery barrage, neither of which should really be used in an heavily populated area. I think militarily and its a deadly and dumb strategy but is the easiest on civillians so to speak is to use infantry to clean out every building, but there will still be massive casualties on both sides.

There is no international body with the strength or desire to go in there, separate the two sides and take out the Hamas ability to resupply, rearm and launch rockets.

I think that all we can hope for is a quick offensive by Israel that ends soon.
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Israel isn't just racist against Arabs.

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I don't see how either side can claim to have a moral high ground. I'm just disgusted by the whole situation. I'm not pro Palestine but I get sick of people justifying brutish actions by Israel.

This is exhibit A for the case against monotheism. Idiots on both sides with their heels dug in the ground. No end in sight.
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Israel isn't just racist against Arabs.

Come on man, that happens in every nation on the planet, every government has radicals in it, every country has groups of people that hate.

Why don't you even up your rhetoric and throw up some videos on the anti-gay sentiment in Palestine, or the governments position on Christians and jews.

Your so damn focused on everything Israel is evil that your making your self look really wrong.

Just my two cents.
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Come on man, that happens in every nation on the planet, every government has radicals in it, every country has groups of people that hate.

Why don't you even up your rhetoric and throw up some videos on the anti-gay sentiment in Palestine, or the governments position on Christians and jews.

Your so damn focused on everything Israel is evil that your making your self look really wrong.

Just my two cents.
Sure, but political leaders usually don't harbour those feelings in other countries in the same manner that they do in Israel. I guess someone can post a video of some European ultra-right wing politician doing that to prove me wrong, but still, it doesn't make any of this right.
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So what. kids cheering at destruction of the enemy isn't new pal. I hope you aren't calling Jews uncivilized when compared to muslims or arabs

- At least they don't have parades with giant posters of the idiot who just blew himself up like the Palestinians do.

- or have a thousand people come and cheer a public hanging for just being born gay

- have giant partys to throw rocks...at a buried persons head because they had an affair or married the wrong person.

Sorry man but muslims take the global cake for being uncivilized, it's sickening.
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You on the other hand should tone down the racist comments. You're the only one being uncivilized around here. You're truly an ignorant and bigoted piece of trash.
I did not want to get into an argument with _Q_ for reasons stated earlier, but reading his response to T@T's post made me think that _Q_'s reactions and posts are very resembling of the general attitude of the anti-Israel sentiment. Vocal, aggressive and hateful, when Palestinian rights are somehow usurped; yet, silent or dismissive when presented with real and indisputable facts about massive oppression, discrimination, terrorism, intolerance and hate towards North American democracy in most of the Muslim world.

Notice, _Q_ did not refute any of the factual observations made by T@T (because they are true), nor did he comment on the Palestinians cheering for 911 video (because it is disgusting).
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Come on man, that happens in every nation on the planet, every government has radicals in it, every country has groups of people that hate.

Why don't you even up your rhetoric and throw up some videos on the anti-gay sentiment in Palestine, or the governments position on Christians and jews.

Your so damn focused on everything Israel is evil that your making your self look really wrong.

Just my two cents.
I spent a couple of weeks in Greece last year, which is another country struggling with an influx of African migrants and there is a similar amount of hatred festering because of it. On Rhodes, my wife and I were actually cornered by a group of African migrants and had to given them money to let us through. I am sure that the same thing happened to many of the other tourists. The next day, we saw local business owners physically removing them and acting in a way that people would call racist. It was sad to see because some of the Africans were children, but there presence was affecting people's lives. There are definitely 2 sides to this issue.
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Israel is literally slaughtering hundreds of civilians including children right now, levelling people's homes, destroying hospitals, destroying entire blocks. They are shooting fish in a barrel with advanced military equipment with impunity. These Palestinians have nowhere to go, homes destroyed, lives destroyed. Israeli's are sitting on beaches watching this, laughing, having parties. Through all of this Nage is militantly defending everything Israel is/has done, he's quite the piece of work.

Hopefully the international community will step in and help put an end to this disgusting "operation" of Israel's.
You forgot to mention 100s of rockets Hamas fired for the last few months. Oh wait, we should ignore that. I see your fair and balanced view on the situation.
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I did not want to get into an argument with _Q_ for reasons stated earlier, but reading his response to T@T's post made me think that _Q_'s reactions and posts are very resembling of the general attitude of the anti-Israel sentiment. Vocal, aggressive and hateful, when Palestinian rights are somehow usurped; yet, silent or dismissive when presented with real and indisputable facts about massive oppression, discrimination, terrorism, intolerance and hate towards North American democracy in most of the Muslim world.

Notice, _Q_ did not refute any of the factual observations made by T@T (because they are true), nor did he comment on the Palestinians cheering for 911 video (because it is disgusting).
I didn't respond to them because it should be obvious to most.

Yes there were videos of people cheering the 9-11 bombings. But to paint all Arabs or Muslims with the same brush because the actions of a small group out of 1 billion people is pretty ignorant.
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I didn't respond to them because it should be obvious to most.

Yes there were videos of people cheering the 9-11 bombings. But to paint all Arabs or Muslims with the same brush because the actions of a small group out of 1 billion people is pretty ignorant.
but it is ok to do it when Jews are involved..................

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I'm Not calling jews uncivilized. There's lots of Jews on here that are either on the Palestinian side or don't care either way.

You on the other hand should tone down the racist comments. You're the only one being uncivilized around here. You're truly an ignorant and bigoted piece of trash.
Truth hurts that bad huh?

I never once said all muslims are uncivilized, I just pointed out a few of the worlds most uncivilized acts happen to be practiced by muslims and nobody else.

If you want to debate this...go ahead and try.
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I didn't respond to them because it should be obvious to most.

Yes there were videos of people cheering the 9-11 bombings. But to paint all Arabs or Muslims with the same brush because the actions of a small group out of 1 billion people is pretty ignorant.

Yet you do the EXACT same thing when it comes to Israelis.....so which way is it OK?
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Israel isn't just racist against Arabs.

Absolutely floored... I can't describe the anger and, sadness and disgust I felt watching that...

That poor man in the store standing there, not able to do a damn thing while that woman cowered in the back... They were both terrified... As a man, not able to do anything knowing the group is looking for a reason to kill both, is heartbreaking.

I joined the military to protect people from this sort of disgusting injustice. Not to drink and earn a paycheck. But to make a difference. Knowing there is nothing I or my unit can or will do is gut wrenching. In fact, if push came to shove, by orders, I would likely have to support Isreal.

What's even more disgusting is... How soon they forget.

Why don't these Jews just setup furnaces at this mega-camp and start burning the "infiltrators" they feel are such a threat... I really don't see any difference between that group of Isreallies and the Neo-Natzi, Hitler Regime..

Just floored...

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Truth hurts that bad huh?

I never once said all muslims are uncivilized, I just pointed out a few of the worlds most uncivilized acts happen to be practiced by muslims and nobody else.

If you want to debate this...go ahead and try.
Go back and read your quotes (even this one), if you can't see what's wrong with what you said then it proves my point. I'm not arguing with a racist like you.

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Yet you do the EXACT same thing when it comes to Israelis.....so which way is it OK?
I'm not painting Israelis with the same brush. But between Ayalet's remarks last week and Feiglin's "final solution" plan today, it's hard to see Israel as the beacon of what is right in the Middle East that they proclaim themselves to be. Again, these two are Israeli politicians, not random Israelis on the street or members of a terrorist organization.

The video I posted, while the protesters are truly vile human beings, the politicians in the video that support this madness are even more disgusting.

I'm sure there are good Israelis out there (see Gideon Levy and the like), but there's a certain madness that has taken over Israeli society that even the politicians are feuling.
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