[News] Cammalleri has NOT been traded. Upd: Cammalleri likely heading to free agency

[Matty81]

Originally Posted by return to the red

what's the Flames situation with the cap floor without Cammy?

Right now 42 mil committed with 16 players signed according to capgeek.

The floor isn't a big deal anyway - if the Flames don't reach the floor they just pay the difference into a kitty for the players.

There's no penalty or rule that they have to get there, although you have to think Edwards would hate paying money out that wasn't earned.

[Gaskal]

Originally Posted by saXon

To Edmonton it is. Burke should ask for their 2015 first as a start for negotiating rights.

Maybe MacTavish is dumb enough to bite.

"Eakins said we aren't a high offense team. Hmm. Well, we need to win now and we need immediate help. Cammalleri wants $5+ for 5 or more years - and they love him in Calgary and I want to troll them. So fine, let's do it. Throw him a 6 for 6!"

The following summer, after a year of them being yet again no good even with Cammy lighting gangsta thugs up, their pick hilariously wins the lottery and we use it to pick McDavid. The entire NHL is laughing their behinds off at the epic troll Burke just pulled.

Our pick in the meantime is 3rd overall and after Buffalo spends their 2nd overall on Jack Eichel, we use it to get Noah Hanifin.

Hey, if you dream - gotta dream big, right?

[T@T]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

According to Doug MacLean cammy wants 5 million plus for 5 to 6 seasons

I would love to see Cammy back but unfortunately I think he would be a 8-10 goal scorer by year 5. four year max for me and that's pushing it.

[Vulcan]

Yeah, you only give a 5 or 6 year contract if you are contending and desperate for a scoring winger. We aren't contending and so aren't desperate.

[sureLoss]

Originally Posted by Gaskal

Is there any contender that would offer him that?

Just took a quick peek at cap geek and next year's numbers. Assuming a $69.5mil cap. This based on the numbers available now, not really looking at if the team needs Cammy or not.

Avalanche have $23mil in cap space next season and 18 players signed. Some of that will be eaten up by O'Rielly and Stastny. Assuming a very conservative combined cap hit of $14 million for O'Rielly and Stastny, that gives them $9mil to play around with. They were also rumored in trying to move out PA Parenteau so that might give them some more $ depending on the return.

Ducks have $22 million in cap space next season and 17 players signed. They should be able to sign Cammalleri and fill out the rest of their roster with decent players.

If the Blues fail to sign Miller and Ott they would have plenty of cash floating around.

Going to the more bubble playoff teams, the Wild may have the space if they can't re-sign Moulson and Vanek gets too expensive.

Blue Jackets management are reportedly unhappy with Umberger - ESPN has him as a potential buyout candidate. If they move him out, they could fit Cammalleri.


So yeah, there are teams that could fit him in, but the question is will they want him with those demands.

[T@T]

Originally Posted by Vulcan

Yeah, you only give a 5 or 6 year contract if you are contending and desperate for a scoring winger. We aren't contending and so aren't desperate.

If a GM gives a 5 or 6 year big dollar deal to an aging player because he's desperate most likely it will be his last big deal.

Cammy will probably get something like:

7,6,5,4.3

[Aarongavey]

I cannot wait until Burke finally makes a substantive trade and tries to say that he got more as a result of holding firm on the asking price for Cammy and everyone buys it hook line and sinker. I will laugh and laugh, what an epic fail by Burke at the deadline this year.

[djsFlames]

How about 3 at 6 mil Cammy?

cmon, you know we can't offer that kind of term for a 30+ year old. But you can make the big bucks right now.

[nik-]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

I cannot wait until Burke finally makes a substantive trade and tries to say that he got more as a result of holding firm on the asking price for Cammy and everyone buys it hook line and sinker. I will laugh and laugh, what an epic fail by Burke at the deadline this year.

The market was flooded with forwards. We get nothing instead of a third, it's not going to sink us. Relax.

[formulate]

The funny thing about many people being pissed at Burke for not trading Cammy is that they would likely have been perfectly satisfied if Cammy was the one traded for the 2nd rounder and Berra walked as a UFA. Very worst case, Burke traded an extra 3nd rounder for a few extra months of contract negotiations with Cammalleri. We'll live.

[FlamesAddiction]

I wonder if Cammalleri realizes that the same thing that sunk his value at the trade deadline is still going to be there in July (i.e. an over saturation of available forwards).

He has done more lately to raise his stock, but he will still likely be waiting in line behind Vanek, Moulson, Iginla and Gaborik, plus Kesler will still be on the market. Then some teams might be more willing to take Hemsky or even Heatley at a discount instead of giving Cammalleri a retirement contract.

[ForeverFlameFan]

Highly unlikely, but I just hope Cammy signs with us, and then we're able to trade him for Anaheim's late first rounder and maybe one of our thirds for it at draft day. Anaheim wouldn't be mad, they still have Ottawa's pick.

[SHOGUN]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

According to Doug MacLean cammy wants 5 million plus for 5 to 6 seasons

Yeah that's ridiculous... if he really wanted to be here, then he would take what Burke is offering. I'm fine Cammy walking, free cap space and an opportunity for a younger player to take his spot on the roster.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by formulate

The funny thing about many people being pissed at Burke for not trading Cammy is that they would likely have been perfectly satisfied if Cammy was the one traded for the 2nd rounder and Berra walked as a UFA. Very worst case, Burke traded an extra 3nd rounder for a few extra months of contract negotiations with Cammalleri. We'll live.

No the people pissed at Burke are pissed because he is a very mediocre hockey guy, look at the juggernaut he built in Toronto. Burke started their rebuild in 2008 and but for one year they never made the playoffs and the rebuild drags on in Toronto a mere 6 years later.

[Gaskal]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

No the people pissed at Burke are pissed because he is a very mediocre hockey guy, look at the juggernaut he built in Toronto. Burke started their rebuild in 2008 and but for one year they never made the playoffs and the rebuild drags on in Toronto a mere 6 years later.

To compare Toronto's 'rebuild' with Calgary's rebuild is ridiculous.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by Gaskal

To compare Toronto's 'rebuild' with Calgary's rebuild is ridiculous.

Huh? The same guy is in charge of both.

[formulate]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

No the people pissed at Burke are pissed because he is a very mediocre hockey guy, look at the juggernaut he built in Toronto. Burke started their rebuild in 2008 and but for one year they never made the playoffs and the rebuild drags on in Toronto a mere 6 years later.

Burke's past work (good and bad) is completely irrelevant to the discussion on this year's deadline transactions, or lack thereof. Check the title of the thread.

[saillias]

I think we can get something for his rights. Especially with his GPG pace of late. Maybe something even better than he would have fetched at the deadline?

[saillias]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

No the people pissed at Burke are pissed because he is a very mediocre hockey guy, look at the juggernaut he built in Toronto. Burke started their rebuild in 2008 and but for one year they never made the playoffs and the rebuild drags on in Toronto a mere 6 years later.

Who is pissed at Burke about Toronto?

Some Bitter Leaf fans I guess but most of them dislike Nonis equally as much.

[strombad]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

Huh? The same guy is in charge of both.

And Burke fully admitted he thought Toronto was much closer than they were, so he made "win now" moves when they weren't ready, and fully admitted his mistakes.
Conversely, Burke has said he's taking this rebuild slowly and building through the draft, so I'm really not sure why you're comparing the two. The end.