06-17-2013, 11:17 AM
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#601
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Lmao at lebron being top 3 ever. Maybe when he reaches the level of Kobe, magic, bird, Russell, wilt, Duncan then talk.
These guys have a handful of rings, lebron is about to have a handful of losses.
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06-17-2013, 11:58 AM
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#602
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PeteLFan
Lmao at lebron being top 3 ever. Maybe when he reaches the level of Kobe, magic, bird, Russell, wilt, Duncan then talk.
These guys have a handful of rings, lebron is about to have a handful of losses.
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06-18-2013, 05:00 PM
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#603
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If you aren't convinced the NBA is rigged like the WWE, well they tonight should be the icing on the cake as Joey Crawford is the referee for game 6 tonight.
Then again he refereed game 2, which was called cleanly. But I have my doubts that tonight's game will be different because its the the NBA and Joey Crawford more then likely got a call from David Stern to make sure these series goes to game 7.
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06-18-2013, 05:36 PM
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#604
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David stern is the worst commissioner in sports.
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06-18-2013, 08:06 PM
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#605
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Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Lethbridge
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PeteLFan
Lmao at lebron being top 3 ever. Maybe when he reaches the level of Kobe, magic, bird, Russell, wilt, Duncan then talk.
These guys have a handful of rings, lebron is about to have a handful of losses.
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Wilt has a whopping two rings and the day Lebron plays on teams as good as KoMe, Bird, Magic let me know.
Switch him out for those 3 and they have as many if not more rings. Not his fault Cleveland was pathetic when he was there and Wade/Bosh suck this year.
Rings are important but don't tell the whole story or Robert Horry would be top two all-time.
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06-18-2013, 08:18 PM
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#606
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He's not even close to them. Boris diaw just shut him down lol.
Tim Duncan is playing like this is 2003
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06-18-2013, 08:23 PM
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Franchise Player
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Location: Maryland State House, Annapolis
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Its 4:30 in the morning here in Amsterdam and I'm grateful I'm staying up to watch this epic Tim Duncan performance. LeBron can never be Tim Duncan, so can we please stop even trying to put him in the MJ conversation? Rodman was a bit over the top saying LeBron would be average in the 90s, but only a bit. LeBron is a top 5 talent/physical specimen ever, but that doesn't mean anything. He just isn't a winner.
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06-18-2013, 08:28 PM
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#608
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis
Its 4:30 in the morning here in Amsterdam and I'm grateful I'm staying up to watch this epic Tim Duncan performance. LeBron can never be Tim Duncan, so can we please stop even trying to put him in the MJ conversation? Rodman was a bit over the top saying LeBron would be average in the 90s, but only a bit. LeBron is a top 5 talent/physical specimen ever, but that doesn't mean anything. He just isn't a winner.
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He's shooting 63% against bosh spice and 9-9 so far.
Tim deserves this ring. He's been one of the best players in the NBA that hardly ever gets mentioned. Just dominating.
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06-18-2013, 08:38 PM
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#609
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Crash and Bang Winger
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Quote:
Originally Posted by moon
Wilt has a whopping two rings and the day Lebron plays on teams as good as KoMe, Bird, Magic let me know.
Switch him out for those 3 and they have as many if not more rings. Not his fault Cleveland was pathetic when he was there and Wade/Bosh suck this year.
Rings are important but don't tell the whole story or Robert Horry would be top two all-time.
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He chose Miami for that reason though and for that reason he cannot be a top 3 player IMO. He got to pick his team and he still can't get it done.
If the team is the wrong then how do you explain Dallas? When he got beat by a good Wade and good Bosh at the time. Easily the top 2 players in the NBA and a third in the top 15.
By his third year in Miami he should have 3 rings. Instead he could have 2 losses in the finals.
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06-18-2013, 08:42 PM
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#610
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Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Maryland State House, Annapolis
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Refs getting to work with the Spurs in the penalty no more than 4 minutes into this quarter.
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06-18-2013, 08:46 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kmart
He chose Miami for that reason though and for that reason he cannot be a top 3 player IMO. He got to pick his team and he still can't get it done.
If the team is the wrong then how do you explain Dallas? When he got beat by a good Wade and good Bosh at the time. Easily the top 2 players in the NBA and a third in the top 15.
By his third year in Miami he should have 3 rings. Instead he could have 2 losses in the finals.
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Dallas was a bad loss no doubt about it but in the Cleveland loss and possibly this loss how is Lebron to blame?
If he played with Kareem or Shaq is his prime do you think he loses? With McHale and Pareish does he lose?
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06-18-2013, 08:51 PM
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#612
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LeBron gets blamed because of what we're seeing tonight. 37 year-old Tim Duncan, legacy already secured, wants it at least 10 times as bad as 28-year old legacy in peril LeBron James. I ain't no Kobe fan but you can't ever accuse him of not wanting it badly. LeBron should be trying to take this game over, instead he's passing up almost every open shot being given to him.
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06-18-2013, 08:55 PM
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#613
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Keep it going Spurs!
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06-18-2013, 08:55 PM
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#614
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Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Cleveland, OH (Grew up in Calgary)
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Lebron's legacy is going to take a huge hit tonight.
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06-18-2013, 08:59 PM
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#615
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hockey_Ninja
Lebron's legacy is going to take a huge hit tonight.
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Sort of feel bad for the guy, as really it's not his fault if they lose. But when you want to be called one of the all-time greats, or even the greatest when his career ends unfortunately all the blame is going to fall on you.
Bosh is awful though, just terrible at everything right now.
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06-18-2013, 09:02 PM
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#616
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It's not like Duncan has had a lot of help either. Stars rise to the occasion some how.
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06-18-2013, 09:04 PM
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Crash and Bang Winger
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Quote:
Originally Posted by moon
Dallas was a bad loss no doubt about it but in the Cleveland loss and possibly this loss how is Lebron to blame?
If he played with Kareem or Shaq is his prime do you think he loses? With McHale and Pareish does he lose?
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Cleveland was excusable.
But he has one of the best SG to ever play the game. Even though Wade struggling Wade still getting you 15, 5, and 5 in the playoffs. The fact that Wade can get you 20 5 and 5 any given night gives you no excuses.
He should have 2 titles by now and 1 more in 2013. But he doesn't, he couldn't get it done, he doesn't deserve to be considered as top 3 yet.
Spurs are doing it with Ginoboli playing like trash so I guess that means Tim Duncan is the GOAT.
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06-18-2013, 09:04 PM
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#618
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PeteLFan
It's not like Duncan has had a lot of help either. Stars rise to the occasion some how.
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True, James has been almost a non-factor tonight. I expected him to try and dominate the second half and maybe score 25-30 points in the half, but nothing yet... There is still time, but this is what separates the all-time greats from the rest of the pack.
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06-18-2013, 09:07 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Cleveland, OH (Grew up in Calgary)
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You guys can say whatever you want about Kobe but he would never let his team down in the finals the way Lebron is now.
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06-18-2013, 09:07 PM
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#620
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Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Maryland State House, Annapolis
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Come on Spurs, finish this baby off.
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