[PGT] Oilers 5 - Flames 3 - EDM leads 3 -1

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by butterfly

Gambler’s fallacy.

Sure let me rephrase - his history would show that it's unlikely he'll put together a 5 game string of pure rotten performances.

If we believe that these 4 games are what Jacob Markstrom is, this team is doomed and should sell EVERYTHING the moment we're out of the playoffs on Thursday night.

...but his career doesn't tell that story, and I fully believe Markstrom, who has absolutely sucked in this series, to be the story for these remaining 3 games.

[butterfly]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

Sure let me rephrase - his history would show that it's unlikely he'll put together a 5 game string of pure rotten performances.

If we believe that these 4 games are what Jacob Markstrom is, this team is doomed and should sell EVERYTHING the moment we're out of the playoffs on Thursday night.

...but his career doesn't tell that story, and I fully believe Markstrom, who has absolutely sucked in this series, to be the story for these remaining 3 games.

Agree that his career doesn’t tell that story. Markstrom is Markstrom. The 1.000 games are every bit as valid as the .786 ones. Just additional data points that continue to define Markstrom.

[blankall]

Markstrom hasn't been his usual self, but a lot of the goals in this series are due to defensive breakdowns. If you let Draisaitl, McDavid, and Kane set up tic tac toe plays as they enter the zone, it's going to be bad. These are some of the best scoring forwards in the league. The defence should never allow any of them to have the types of clean shots they are getting.

[Jaydee]

####ing play Vladar. Should've played him last game and the series would be tied

[Azhouse]

It’s all Marky’s net. Sutter won’t change the lineup from last game…unless Tanev comes out again.

[CGY12]

After thinking about this, i'm going to contradict what I said in the GT yesterday, you have to stick with Markstrom. If we have any hope of winning or at least forcing 7, he has to find his game, and as good as I think Vladar is, he is not a proven backup this time a year, if we had Halak or Jake Allen then ya but thats not the case.

Plus tomorrow, the first period 10 minutes will tell us all we need to know in regards to whether the Flames want to fight back or if they want to crumble up and die.

[BlindMilwaukee]

If the team ends up getting bounced from these playoffs I'd rather go down with Markstrom.

[BagoPucks]

I think the Flames forwards need to do more on both sides of the puck. Easy to say that our goalie has been bad but the team in front of him has also been bad. They really haven't moved their feet and finished their checks. The forwards need to be better. That's been the difference in the series. The oilers forwards have been better than ours.

[N-E-B]

We have a Vezina finalist in our net but yeah, let’s play the guy with less than 30 NHL games to his name instead.

I get that Markstrom hasn’t been his best but come on. Vladar (rightfully) will not start a game this series. Markstrom gives you the best chance to win. If you’re in a scenario where you need to win every single serious hockey person is picking Markstrom 10 times out of 10.

The calls for Vladar to start are reactionary and ridiculous.

[Hemi-Cuda]

Originally Posted by CGY12

After thinking about this, i'm going to contradict what I said in the GT yesterday, you have to stick with Markstrom. If we have any hope of winning or at least forcing 7, he has to find his game, and as good as I think Vladar is, he is not a proven backup this time a year, if we had Halak or Jake Allen then ya but thats not the case.

This is entirely on Sutter. In almost all of his limited starts Vladar looked solid, maybe if Sutter had simply played him more he would have been able to truely prove himself and Markstrom wouldn't have been burnt out for the playoffs, which has been an issue since he came into the league

[Winsor_Pilates]

If Markstrom doesn't catch form, we can't win 3 straight anyway. Changing the goalie is giving the series away, Vladar isn't ready to win 3 elimination games in a row.

[timbit]

Originally Posted by Winsor_Pilates

If Markstrom does catch form, we can't win 3 straight anyway. Changing the goalie is giving the series away, Vladar isn't ready to win 3 elimination games in a row.

Who told you that?

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by timbit

Who told you that?

Sportsnet and TSN

[Burning Beard]

Originally Posted by timbit

Who told you that?

Ronald Mclean

[JohnnyB]

Originally Posted by topfiverecords

Sportsnet and TSN

It's not just this series they're looking past. They're already looking past the cup to how Connor McDavid is forever reshaping the sport of hockey. In case you didn't know, McDavid is like a combination of Gretzky, Lemieux, Orr, and Crosby, but better. He is to the NHL's all-time greatest what Megazord is to all the other power ranger robots that make up its arms and legs.

How blessed we all are to witness his greatness!

[Winsor_Pilates]

Originally Posted by timbit

Who told you that?

Originally Posted by topfiverecords

Sportsnet and TSN

Originally Posted by Burning Beard

Ronald Mclean

I dont get it

[KootenayFlamesFan]

Originally Posted by Jaydee

####ing play Vladar. Should've played him last game and the series would be tied

So you're assuming Vladar would stop all the poor goals Markstrom has let in, but are you sure he'd also make all the tough saves Markstrom has as well? The breakaways, the one-timers, etc?

I'm not.

[timbit]

Originally Posted by Winsor_Pilates

I dont get it

You made this comment…

“If Markstrom does catch form, we can't win 3 straight anyway.”

I asked, “ Who told you that?”

[Winsor_Pilates]

Originally Posted by timbit

You made this comment…

“If Markstrom does catch form, we can't win 3 straight anyway.”

I asked, “ Who told you that?”

Oh god, I see it now
That was a typo.
I meant if Markstrom DOESN'T catch form, as in we should stick with him, and hope he plays to form instead of going to Vladar.

[edslunch]

Game 4 was my fault. Just before they tied in the third I told my wife we need a short-handed goal and a Mike Smith special. I should have been clearer that we needed them to be separate goals. I'll do better next time.