2015/2016 Trade Speculation and Rumors

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by the_only_turek_fan

If it costs us Emile Porier or Morgan Klumchuk to get a guy like Clifford or Nolan I would consider it.

Jooris is another guy I would move.

This is no slight against any of these players. They are good players, and good humans, but BB and BT have been saying one thing and doing another.

Re-signing Stajan - Great person! Great leader. Way too small and weak.
Re-signing Russell - Smallish player again.
Signing Bollig - Is not as fiesty as I thought he would be.
Signing Raymond - He gets beat up enough on this board.
Trading for Hamilton - Good!
Re-signing Brodie - Small, but his skill is elite.
Signing Engelland - Good signing.
Re-signing Jooris - Not big enough.
Signing Frolik - Good player, not big and physical.
Resigning Backlund - OK player, not physical at all.

The irony here is that one of the guys that does play a semi physical game (David Jones) is on his way out.

Please Brad, get David Backes. Please.

Re-signed Ferland, re-signed Bouma. Drafted Hunter Smith, Austin Carroll.

Guys like Backes are not just waiting around to be picked up.

[Roof-Daddy]

Milan Lucic is exactly what the Flames need, I just don't know if we need him eating up $6 million + of cap space.

6 years / $30 million or so and he'd be a fantastic addition.

[Moneyhands23]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

Milan Lucic is exactly what the Flames need, I just don't know if we need him eating up $6 million + of cap space.

6 years / $30 million or so and he'd be a fantastic addition.

Yup!!! This combined with one of the Finns in the draft would be perfect!

[Moneyhands23]

Originally Posted by the_only_turek_fan

If it costs us Emile Porier or Morgan Klumchuk to get a guy like Clifford or Nolan I would consider it.

Jooris is another guy I would move.

This is no slight against any of these players. They are good players, and good humans, but BB and BT have been saying one thing and doing another.

Re-signing Stajan - Great person! Great leader. Way too small and weak.
Re-signing Russell - Smallish player again.
Signing Bollig - Is not as fiesty as I thought he would be.
Signing Raymond - He gets beat up enough on this board.
Trading for Hamilton - Good!
Re-signing Brodie - Small, but his skill is elite.
Signing Engelland - Good signing.
Re-signing Jooris - Not big enough.
Signing Frolik - Good player, not big and physical.
Resigning Backlund - OK player, not physical at all.

The irony here is that one of the guys that does play a semi physical game (David Jones) is on his way out.

Please Brad, get David Backes. Please.

Backlund may not be a bruiser out there, but he constantly wins board battles and doesn't shy away from contact. I love the idea of Backlund as the 3rd line centre.

[Calgary4LIfe]

Originally Posted by the_only_turek_fan

So you go out and get Mason Raymond and Devin Setoguchi?

No. He got Raymond and Setoguchi because Treliving was worried about team scoring (or lack thereof).

He traded for Bollig and signed (and overpaid) for Engelland.

He has stated a few times already that the Flames need to get bigger, and that the Flames are always actively looking to get bigger. He mentioned one caveat, however - he will not add big players who can not play and who can not skate. Engelland is a huge presence on the ice and can match up against anyone left in the NHL I think as a 'goon' - but he can also play.

Bollig - for all his warts - can at least skate and doesn't usually take terrible penalties, but I think the pro-scouts bought into how much Quenneville loved to use him in weird situations (for instance, he would often throw him out against high quality of competition as a 'shut-down' type of sorts). Treliving targeted Bollig as he assumed Bollig could improve in some areas (and, unfortunately, that hasn't been the case).

Big guys that can skate and have skill are expensive. Patience.

In the AHL, he (and Burke) has brought in guys like Van Brabant, Carrol, Smith, etc.

If it was so easy to find big physical guys with skill and speed, the Edmonton Oilers wouldn't be the absolute pansies that they are today. They identified that need years ago and are still stuck. That is the predicament of a number of teams in the NHL that crave size - and those that have it want to add more, thereby making those players a scarce resource and driving up the prices if and when they become available.

[Parallex]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

Milan Lucic is exactly what the Flames need

Milan Lucic is the most overrated player in the NHL.

If the Flames were to chase any big fish in free agency (which we likely won't) I'd rather it be Okposo.

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Gaudreau - Bennett - Okposo

Make it happen.

nowwwwwwwwwwww

[1qqaaz]

At first, getting Okposo scares me, because he stats might be inflated from playing with Tavares.

But then I remember that we have Gaudreau, so nevermind.

[Badgers Nose]

Originally Posted by Moneyhands23

Backlund may not be a bruiser out there, but he constantly wins board battles and doesn't shy away from contact. I love the idea of Backlund as the 3rd line centre.

Yeah, not exactly sure what the guy has to do to get out of the fan doghouse. He is a good 3C.

[GranteedEV]

Originally Posted by Badgers Nose

Yeah, not exactly sure what the guy has to do to get out of the fan doghouse.

84 points in his last 156 games but not an NHL second-liner. 48% of his faceoffs, those extra 25 faceoff wins a season are the difference between being a competent shut-down center and a total sieve. Great shot suppression numbers, but his "advanced stats are only good because he takes weak wristers", etc etc. He'll never get a fair shake.

[t0rrent98]

It’s being reported that the Detroit ‪#‎RedWings‬ are intetested in Columbus ‪#‎BlueJackets‬ D Fedor Tyutin.

[KootenayFlamesFan]

Originally Posted by t0rrent98

It’s being reported that the Detroit ‪#‎RedWings‬ are intetested in Columbus ‪#‎BlueJackets‬ D Fedor Tyutin.

Who's reporting it?

edit: didn't know I had to go though a FB page to see it.

[Split98]

Originally Posted by KootenayFlamesFan

Who's reporting it?

edit: didn't know I had to go though a FB page to see it.

The Red Wings had much brass in the building on Tuesday to watch the Blue Jackets play the Islanders in Nationwide.

GM Ken Holland was there, along with special assistant to the GM Kris Draper, and pro scout Kirk Maltby.

It’s believed the Red Wings were taking a close look at Fedor Tyutin, who is likely to be dealt by the Feb. 29 trade deadline.

http://nhl.nbcsports.com/2016/02/11/...-d-man-tyutin/

[t0rrent98]

Originally Posted by KootenayFlamesFan

Who's reporting it?

edit: didn't know I had to go though a FB page to see it.

Could be the one that I look at all the time, eh? haha.... but so far the rumors and shiet have not even been close to being true, hence why its all rumors....

[Flames Draft Watcher]

Originally Posted by the_only_turek_fan

I will concede Ferland. Frolik, I am not sure.

I have been watching a lot of Anaheim, LA, and SJ recently.

We need Dwight King, Jordan Nolan, Kyle Clifford, Brent Burns, etc...

David Backes and/or Andrew Ladd would be my main targets on July 1.

It has been almost 3 years for Burke, and almost 2 for Treliving.

There is very little evidence to suggest BB and BT actually believe in truculence, and heavy hockey.

Well these guys are valued league wide. I go on about how true, skilled power forwards are rare commodities and its true. Very hard to get these guys.

Guys who play physical: Ferland, Bouma, Engelland, Smid, Gio, Jooris, Bollig
Guys who are heavy but not super physical: Monahan, Frolik, Colborne

We've drafted guys like Smith, Carroll as well.

Guys like Backes or Ladd would be HUGE for us if we could land one. Great suggestion.

Realistically our best way to add size + skill is at this draft. Most of the players at the top end are big.

You are right, we need to add size and strength throughout the lineup. Teams aren't generally lining up to move them. Treliving and Burke will have to be savvy this deadline and offseason.

[mikephoen]

Why does everyone want to be LA, when Chicago is obviously the superior model? The pieces we already have also more closely resemble Chicago than they do LA.

Chicago has routinely been right at the bottom of hits by team year in, year out. LA is at the top, with twice as many hits per game. So there is obviously more than one way to win, and Chicago's way makes a lot more sense to me.

[Parallex]

Originally Posted by mikephoen

Why does everyone want to be LA, when Chicago is obviously the superior model?

I think it's just some people valuing style over substance.

It doesn't make any sense to me either... A: we're so much closer to having a Chicago style team already, B: Chicago has been more successful, C: in addition to A & B IMO Chicago is the more entertaining team to watch.

[howard_the_duck]

Originally Posted by mikephoen

Why does everyone want to be LA, when Chicago is obviously the superior model? The pieces we already have also more closely resemble Chicago than they do LA.

Chicago has routinely been right at the bottom of hits by team year in, year out. LA is at the top, with twice as many hits per game. So there is obviously more than one way to win, and Chicago's way makes a lot more sense to me.

I would say that LA's style is easier to emulate than Chicago's, that's why you have so many people pining for it.

Chicago hit the lottery with 2 franchise players in Toews and Kane that offer such a versatile and complementary skill set, you just don't see that in the league anymore.

[the_only_turek_fan]

Originally Posted by mikephoen

Why does everyone want to be LA, when Chicago is obviously the superior model? The pieces we already have also more closely resemble Chicago than they do LA.

Chicago has routinely been right at the bottom of hits by team year in, year out. LA is at the top, with twice as many hits per game. So there is obviously more than one way to win, and Chicago's way makes a lot more sense to me.

The key to Chicago is Towes, Keith, and Kane.

Calgary has Monahan, Brodie, and Gaudreau. I love the CGY players, don't get me wrong but there is a giant chasm between the two groups.

[FlamesAddiction]

I really hate the idea of using another team as a model. Before Chicago and LA, everyone thought Detroit and Pittsburgh were the models. There's more than one way to skin a cat.