Alberta Politics & Government Thread 3.0

[iggy_oi]

Originally Posted by Yikes

Hey...it's not like I'm proud of my questionable attitude, I am a full on Canuck and the offspring of Danish immigrants but I do see it for what it is thru my eyes. Some agree, some don't and I'm good with that.

See what? That people might be more inclined to hire people they know before they hire others? What you’re saying isn’t racist because a minority group is doing the hiring, it’s racist because you’re trying to portray it as something that only that group does.

[Yikes]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

Even if you do see them as racist, the answer to racism isn't more racism.

Agreed 100% Fuzz. I'm not proud of this attitude and try to fight if off.

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

I mean, I for one am shocked that businesses whose staff consists primarily of visible minorities would be averse to employing someone who refers to Jagmeet Singh as "that Sikh".

[D as in David]

Originally Posted by Yikes

Also fair enough, so for the most part I have no issue asking questions of anyone, it's how I learn. You want to find something out, ask. So maybe you should ask Hindu/Sikh/Muslim home builders/suppliers why they don't hire outside of their "communities"? Go ahead and ask nicely, I do all of the time. When you get the answer ask yourself who is the racist.

I'm not certain your method is working for you.

[Geraldsh]

Originally Posted by Yikes

Hey...it's not like I'm proud of my questionable attitude, I am a full on Canuck and the offspring of Danish immigrants but I do see it for what it is thru my eyes. Some agree, some don't and I'm good with that.

I give you credit for sticking to your viewpoint in spite of the shock and awe reactions. I have seen similar behaviours but not in a racial context so much as a tribal or ethnic setting. When no colour is involved whites(and poc) will exhibit prejudice against other communities / cultures slightly different than theirs.

[Sliver]

Originally Posted by Yikes

Please, go ahead and ask the question when you are in a liquor store or on a jobsite. Go ahead and ask, just do it. You will get the "our community" answer. 100% every time.

No, thanks. I'm not going to ask a racist question. Especially when I know the answer. They're not being racist; they're doing what every first-generation family does when they move to a new country. They support each other and it makes the transition to the new land easier. They speak the same language and they have experience navigating particular industries that they can share so each individual is not reinventing the wheel and starting from scratch. We all need support and typically the best support for a new Canadian will come from within their community.

Also, your entire line of thinking is prejudiced.

Imma throw out an anecdotal experience. For a few years I worked at the OK Liquor Store in Crowfoot during university. Moni Minhas was the owner/my boss (his kids are the girl who is on Dragon's Den and the kid who ran/runs Minhas Brewery; they were nice kids). Anyway, Moni did support his community and there would be dudes I'd work with that didn't speak a lick of English, but they were all here to raise their kids to be Canadians. I mean, sorry they couldn't get a job in an accounting office or as an Engineer, but they knew Moni through their community and he helped them land on their feet. It's just humans helping humans; it's not an affront to white guys. They had to take jobs below their skill and education level, but it was a long-term investment in their family. It's respectable behaviour top to bottom. You're casting it in a negative light through a racist lens.

IDK, maybe get to know new Canadians versus accosting them with questions about their hiring practices (especially when the answers are obvious and not nefarious). Moni was a rad dude, as was his wife Rani (I'm butchering the spelling of these names, sorry). He was kind, generous and caring. A terrific boss without a racist bone in his body in spite of the primarily Indian staff he had. I think he's typical of the Indians I have met and work with.

You're fataing brutal, dude.

[Yoho]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1615050410611609600

“Just Transition” is a non starter with Premier.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by Sliver

No, thanks. I'm not going to ask a racist question. Especially when I know the answer. They're not being racist; they're doing what every first-generation family does when they move to a new country. They support each other and it makes the transition to the new land easier. They speak the same language and they have experience navigating particular industries that they can share so each individual is not reinventing the wheel and starting from scratch. We all need support and typically the best support for a new Canadian will come from within their community.

Also, your entire line of thinking is prejudiced.

Imma throw out an anecdotal experience. For a few years I worked at the OK Liquor Store in Crowfoot during university. Moni Minhas was the owner/my boss (his kids are the girl who is on Dragon's Den and the kid who ran/runs Minhas Brewery; they were nice kids). Anyway, Moni did support his community and there would be dudes I'd work with that didn't speak a lick of English, but they were all here to raise their kids to be Canadians. I mean, sorry they couldn't get a job in an accounting office or as an Engineer, but they knew Moni through their community and he helped them land on their feet. It's just humans helping humans; it's not an affront to white guys. They had to take jobs below their skill and education level, but it was a long-term investment in their family. It's respectable behaviour top to bottom. You're casting it in a negative light through a racist lens.

IDK, maybe get to know new Canadians versus accosting them with questions about their hiring practices (especially when the answers are obvious and not nefarious). Moni was a rad dude, as was his wife Rani (I'm butchering the spelling of these names, sorry). He was kind, generous and caring. A terrific boss without a racist bone in his body in spite of the primarily Indian staff he had. I think he's typical of the Indians I have met and work with.

You're fataing brutal, dude.

Look at that Yikes, you have gone and made Sliver, the best fun time poster on here the voice of reason.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by Yoho

https://twitter.com/user/status/1615050410611609600

“Just Transition” is a non starter with Premier.

#### her

[Fuzz]

I'm actually a little surprised the wacko right hasn't embraced both their bigotry and really bad memes to go for the low hanging fruit around a Justin Transition.

[Roughneck]

I'm quite lucky my parents were white and have a relatively ambiguous last name when they moved here and got insular with the other members of 'their community.'



Means I can pretend to be a real, Old Stock Canadian and nobody is the wiser.

[Yikes]

Originally Posted by Roughneck

I'm quite lucky my parents were white and have a relatively ambiguous last name when they moved here and got insular with the other members of 'their community.'



Means I can pretend to be a real, Old Stock Canadian and nobody is the wiser.

As a Canuck that grew up on our grog, Old Stock and Canadian should never be in the same sentence

[iggy_oi]

Originally Posted by Yikes

As a Canuck that grew up on our grog, Old Stock and Canadian should never be in the same sentence

Yet painting an entire religion with the same brush is ok in your opinion?

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by Roughneck

I'm quite lucky my parents were white and have a relatively ambiguous last name when they moved here and got insular with the other members of 'their community.'



Means I can pretend to be a real, Old Stock Canadian and nobody is the wiser.

Yip same.

I've been undercover in a number of situations (especially living in Central Alberta) and nobody knew I was naturalized.

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by Yoho

https://twitter.com/user/status/1615050410611609600

“Just Transition” is a non starter with Premier.

Trying to change the beat when everyone is still interested in her "imprecise" wording admitting to political interference in the justice system last week.

Bold strategy cotton! It usually only works when you do/ announce something new though, not when you just try and plod back to the old conversation. Erika is smarter than this, must just be getting droned out by the morons.

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by Yikes

As a Canuck that grew up on our grog, Old Stock and Canadian should never be in the same sentence

This guy lol I wasn't sure in the middle but this comment confirms this has all been a troll job right? No one is this ridiculously daft?

[Yikes]

Originally Posted by iggy_oi

Yet painting an entire religion with the same brush is ok in your opinion?

As mentioned...I am fully aware of my "attitudes" past, present and future. I don't know that I paint all with a common brush just maybe riding on my experiences and unafraid to voice same? I have not gone Convoy, I promise.

[KelVarnsen]

Oy

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

This guy lol I wasn't sure in the middle but this comment confirms this has all been a troll job right? No one is this ridiculously daft?

I actually think this is his attempt at humour to defuse the situation he has created.

[Yikes]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

This guy lol I wasn't sure in the middle but this comment confirms this has all been a troll job right? No one is this ridiculously daft?

Right here,