More just that it isn't discussed as a motivating factor for such as large group of voters. These people didn't vote Trump for any other reason.
Only about 20% of Americans are no abortion ever people. Close to 80% feel it should either be no restrictions (25-30%) or it based on circumstance (rape, incest, mother at risk etc...50%). I think that is what Gallup has.
Pro-choice vs pro-life identification is about 50:50 and a good chunk of those that identify pro-life are the ones that base it on circumstance rather than an all out ban on abortion. Pew most recent suggests about a 60:40 split between legal in all/most circumstances vs illegal all/most circumstances. The only groups looked at with a split that is truly opposite is white evangelicals and republicans. Non-religious affiliate, black, catholic, protestant, democrats, independents under 30, 30-40, 40-60 and even 65+ all skew to the legal in all or most cases side of things. A couple groups are 50:50 like hispanics and those lacking college education http://www.pewforum.org/fact-sheet/p...n-on-abortion/
Essentially the people that make it a top priority issue aren't voting democrat anyways as mentioned as they are also unlikely to align on other social issues. The majority of population actually shows greater alignment with democrats rather than todays conservatives.
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I honestly think the GOP will hold both the House and Senate next year, and Trump will likely win a second term as well.
I think they'll hold the Senate. There are only 8 GOP senate seats up for re-election and of those 8 only 1 ought to be vulnerable. The House seems more likely to fall...
... but I don't know how that translates to seats. As for Trump, well I didn't think he could win in the 1st place so what do I know, but it isn't like he won a by a huge margin and his approval ratings are in historically poor.
not a lot of critical thinking going on anymore.
more about watering everything down do you don't offend anyone.
university is now where you go to have your sjw biases confirmed.
just don't offer an opinion in case trigger someone.
school used to be a place where you could discuss and confront uncomfortable subjects. now it's where you go to be protected from them.
Spend a lot of time on a university campus, eh? Which one?
If not, which one did you go to and when? Things no doubt have changed, but considering your definitive opinion on the matter, I'm wondering how close to it you actually are.
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I hate that common refrain so much: "nothing but SJWs and angry hippies and identity politics" on college campuses!
Just a garbage opinion, based on nothing at all but misplaced anger. Nevermind the fact that right-wingers are every bit as disruptive as leftists on today's college campuses: the more important point is that most students and faculty are very far from radical, just as it has always been.
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I think its the SJW identity politics more than the value of the education that people on the right are against.
There are definitely more than a few SJW on campuses, but there are just as many whiny conservatives who complain when you don't accepted their twisted view of reality and have the audacity to call them out on their garbage.
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LOL no. Colleges are now where bigots finally get called out for their B.S. and then whine about it on Twitter.
Or worse, they make complaints against faculty for calling them out, or having the gaul to rely on facts to teach their classes. Faculty are now recording their classes to protect themselves should a student complain, because first sign of conflict of any sorts and the little darlings pull out their phones and catch only half the story in their youtube moment.
not a lot of critical thinking going on anymore.
more about watering everything down do you don't offend anyone.
university is now where you go to have your sjw biases confirmed.
just don't offer an opinion in case trigger someone.
school used to be a place where you could discuss and confront uncomfortable subjects. now it's where you go to be protected from them.
Is it watering down of stuff or is it simply not necessary to discuss things which are settled? Do we really need to listen to some idiot who doesn't believe people of color are the same as those that are white? It's settled. Yes they are in any civilized society. There is no need for "enlightened" discussion. There isn't a need to confront such an uncomfortable subject anymore. Do we really need to hash out how law abiding LGBTQ people are every much a person just like the straight white guy and should be treated as such? Well that one still gets bandied about some.
The point is, Universities are about discussing forward thinking ideas not ideas are 50 years out of date. So those discussions aren't confirmation of biases they are worthless.
The worthwhile discussion that do take place revolve around what do we do as an economy becomes more and more white collar? What do we do as automation becomes more prevalent? Does it make sense to have a universal living wage? etc etc etc
I think it's far more basic, "liberals demand safe spaces at and cause violence at college and universities" is the narrative, liberal stink rubs off onto colleges and universities, that's sufficient.
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