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Old 07-28-2025, 03:14 PM   #5981
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Isn’t it though? I actually had to double check to make sure it was real. I for sure thought it was one of those fake AI or trailers where they splice in old footage to get YouTube views.
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Isn’t it though? I actually had to double check to make sure it was real. I for sure thought it was one of those fake AI or trailers where they splice in old footage to get YouTube views.
Avatar has always been terrible and the two movies somehow making like $5B worldwide while most people could not quote a single memorable thing about either movie is always mindblowing to me.
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Old 07-28-2025, 04:24 PM   #5984
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What makes avatar different from the 500 other tentpole blockbusters released on the last 25 years? It was better than any of those awful recycled Jurassic Park movies.
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What makes avatar different from the 500 other tentpole blockbusters released on the last 25 years? It was better than any of those awful recycled Jurassic Park movies.
Exactly.

It was nothing. A generic blockbuster that has a pretty cookie cutter story and approach.

Nothing about Avatar or it's sequel made it worthy of the $2B+ that both made worldwide.
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Old 07-28-2025, 04:36 PM   #5986
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And yet it did. If nothing about it was worthy of $2B then how did it make $2B? JW is gonna make a billion and it sucked hard. Transformers was successful and every movie was worse than the previous one. The Fast franchise flew a guy to space in a Camaro and it made a billion.

Maybe people just like being entertained?
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And yet it did. If nothing about it was worthy of $2B then how did it make $2B? JW is gonna make a billion and it sucked hard. Transformers was successful and every movie was worse than the previous one. The Fast franchise flew a guy to space in a Camaro and it made a billion.

Maybe people just like being entertained?
Bread and circuses, Cecil.

Nothing too thought provoking or intellectually stimulating either. Don't let the people get smart or any ideas in their heads. Keep 'em nice and dumb, and easy to control.
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Alien female secondary sexual characteristics that aren't covered but where gravity and motion always conspire for maximum suggestivity while maintaining a PG-13 rating. That's my theory.
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Exactly.

It was nothing. A generic blockbuster that has a pretty cookie cutter story and approach.

Nothing about Avatar or it's sequel made it worthy of the $2B+ that both made worldwide.
It is definitely odd. Some people very clearly love them and I cannot fathom why, but hey, to each their own. I couldnt name a single character.

Avatar just strikes me as the cinematic version of "ooooh! Shiny!!"

But clearly a lot of people like it. As long as I dont have to watch it.
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I wish Cameron would return to making cool original movies instead of churning out these soulless, unmemorable CGI-fests. T1, T2, the Abyss, True Lies, Aliens… give me more of that stuff please.
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Bread and circuses, Cecil.

Nothing too thought provoking or intellectually stimulating either. Don't let the people get smart or any ideas in their heads. Keep 'em nice and dumb, and easy to control.
Ah yes. Avatar is part of the oligarch conspiracy to keep the plebs entertained. I knew those movies had a deeper meaning than people were picking up on. It’s just that the deeper meaning wasn’t in the movies. It was the movies themselves.
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Old 07-28-2025, 06:58 PM   #5992
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I’ve seen each Avatar exactly once and probably can’t remember anything about them except they ride flying dragon birds at some point

Both movies in theater and I thought it was pretty cool. Sometimes just going to see something cool with pointless action is fun

Most movies I can watch on my couch with very little difference. Avatar is not one of those . So people who want an experience go see them

Not exactly rocket science why they do well
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I’ve seen each Avatar exactly once and probably can’t remember anything about them except they ride flying dragon birds at some point

Both movies in theater and I thought it was pretty cool. Sometimes just going to see something cool with pointless action is fun

Most movies I can watch on my couch with very little difference. Avatar is not one of those . So people who want an experience go see them

Not exactly rocket science why they do well
Avatar movies are more like amusement rides at time than movies. Also saw them both in the theatres and enjoyed both. I'll see the third one in the theatres too.

As far as the plots go, they are pretty forgettable. I remember almost nothing of the second one....I do remember the battle on the ship and some of the other moments and actually being drawn into them for moments.
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Does any other movie franchise make people so angry just for existing though? The SNL skit was scary accurate.
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Avatar movies are more like amusement rides at time than movies. Also saw them both in the theatres and enjoyed both. I'll see the third one in the theatres too.

As far as the plots go, they are pretty forgettable. I remember almost nothing of the second one....I do remember the battle on the ship and some of the other moments and actually being drawn into them for moments.
Which is funny, because the rides modeled after them at the theme parks are pretty awful. You'd think something that was clearly built to be a ride from the start should result in something better.
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I watched the first Avatar in IMAX 3D and I thought it was fun. It was the middle of winter and the movie was a nice little escape from it. Watched it again when it came out on Blu-ray and it was forgettable, so it was obviously just the IMAX 3D experience of it that was enjoyable. I watched the second on in the theater too and I don't remember anything about it.

So like, are the humans just going to keep coming back to invade Pandora for like four more movies? Is James Cameron working on anything else in the meantime??
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I watched the first Avatar in IMAX 3D and I thought it was fun. It was the middle of winter and the movie was a nice little escape from it. Watched it again when it came out on Blu-ray and it was forgettable, so it was obviously just the IMAX 3D experience of it that was enjoyable. I watched the second on in the theater too and I don't remember anything about it.

So like, are the humans just going to keep coming back to invade Pandora for like four more movies? Is James Cameron working on anything else in the meantime??
No one sees Avatar movies for the plots. You see it for the cool 3D effects like pollen floating in the air or weird jellyfish floating by.

The plots of the two movies so far have been almost identical. Humans come to invade Pandora. A white saviour has to stop the invading humans, while also integrating into an indigenous society and banging hot aliens. White saviour wins the trust of the locals by accomplishing a feat that generations of much more able indigenous people somehow couldn't do. There's some cool battles, with characters riding on chariot like animals. Invading humans lose. The end.


I'm assuming Avatar 3 will be the same...but with fire.
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Does any other movie franchise make people so angry just for existing though? The SNL skit was scary accurate.
Marvel gets blamed for being the end of legitimate filmmaking. Meanwhile, hundreds of interesting films are made and consumed every year.

I think people get irrationally upset that their niche, artsy fartsy films don't get the audience share of the big budget blockbusters.

Well, duh, of course they don't. Movies like Transformers, Avatar, and the Avengers are the easiest, surest, people pleasing movies you can make. There's no age restrictions, excessive gore or sexuality, etc., so in an economy where even avid movie-goers are being picky about spending, these movies are the safest bet.

Some folks I know that have kids go to 1 or 2 movies a year. 2 adults and 2 children can be well over 100 dollars all-in. Do you go see The Lighthouse, or Fast and Furious 17?
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