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Old 05-28-2016, 09:11 PM   #5981
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You seem unaware that Trump is fundraising, on top of that he 'lent' his own campaign his money which, now that he's out there cap in hand to the corporations and other big money donators, he will pay back to himself.

Not only is Trump exactly the same as Clinton, but he's lied about it, telling idiots he's paying for his own campaign when this was always bollocks.
Trump is not a career politician and therefore his political career has not be funded by big money or special interests. Obviously that will play a part in the general election as there are already rumors coming out of his camp that he doesn't have enough money to fund the campaign, but it isn't comparable at all to Hillary, and who has bought and paid for her.

Corrupt to the core. No other way to explain her.
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Trump is not a career politician and therefore his political career has not be funded by big money or special interests. Obviously that will play a part in the general election as there are already rumors coming out of his camp that he doesn't have enough money to fund the campaign, but it isn't comparable at all to Hillary, and who has bought and paid for her.

Corrupt to the core. No other way to explain her.
All Trump supposedly funding his own campaign does is remove the middle man. He has much the same aims and goals as the special interests you're outraged by.
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Trump is not a career politician and therefore his political career has not be funded by big money or special interests. Obviously that will play a part in the general election as there are already rumors coming out of his camp that he doesn't have enough money to fund the campaign, but it isn't comparable at all to Hillary, and who has bought and paid for her.

Corrupt to the core. No other way to explain her.
Saying Trump is not as corrupt as any human on the planet is hilariously hilarious. The guy would sell his own mother
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Its really not hard to see why he gets away with it.

Hillary is as corrupt and crooked as they come. She represents everything that is wrong with Washington and politics in general. She has lied, cheated and stole her way to where she is now. Trump is not part of that establishment, nor is he coming across as either crooked or corrupt.
Repeat after me,

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Crooked Hillary

Trump repeats it often enough and you and a bunch of people who want an authoritarian leader now accept it and Hillary is put on the defensive. Hillary may be crooked but it doesn't matter if she is or isn't, as he just wants to imprint his label in your mind. See what he's doing but I guess you don't.
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Trump is not a career politician and therefore his political career has not be funded by big money or special interests. Obviously that will play a part in the general election as there are already rumors coming out of his camp that he doesn't have enough money to fund the campaign, but it isn't comparable at all to Hillary, and who has bought and paid for her.

Corrupt to the core. No other way to explain her.
Trump is a career shyster, it's an effing miricle his solutions to America's problems isn't building a monorail, he has no political career to speak of, but what he does have has and will be totally paid for by big money or special interests, as right from the beginning by lending his campaign money he ensured he wasn't paying for any of it, a loan is repayable and tax deductible and, in Trumps case, a good excuse for a quick chapter 11.


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The Washington Post just won an order to release thousands of internal documents about Trump University, including what to use in sales pitches and such. Trump of course went after the judge as being Mexican because his name is Gonzalo Curiel (born in Indiana...). Trump is going to really wish he didn't run by about August, when after the media goes to town on him for months he's exposed as one of the biggest fraudsters in American history. Remember the media has essentially been licking his balls for the past year. Now that they've got the ratings candidate locked in, destroying him is the next step.
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The Washington Post just won an order to release thousands of internal documents about Trump University, including what to use in sales pitches and such. Trump of course went after the judge as being Mexican because his name is Gonzalo Curiel (born in Indiana...). Trump is going to really wish he didn't run by about August, when after the media goes to town on him for months he's exposed as one of the biggest fraudsters in American history. Remember the media has essentially been licking his balls for the past year. Now that they've got the ratings candidate locked in, destroying him is the next step.
Will it affect the voters though. This is an election like no other. They love the straightshooting talk of Trump and can't stand Hillary.
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And Trump will spin this as the establishment out to get him.
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Saying Trump is not as corrupt as any human on the planet is hilariously hilarious. The guy would sell his own mother
I said he is not corrupt in terms of being a career Washington politician. As a businessman he might be as corrupt as they come.
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Repeat after me,

Crooked Hillary
Crooked Hillary
Crooked Hillary

Trump repeats it often enough and you and a bunch of people who want an authoritarian leader now accept it and Hillary is put on the defensive. Hillary may be crooked but it doesn't matter if she is or isn't, as he just wants to imprint his label in your mind. See what he's doing but I guess you don't.
I'm not a Trump or Hillary supporter. I just find it completely mind-boggling that people support either.

Trump is a lunatic. Hillary is corrupt. Both will be a disaster for the US.
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No one still understands why a growing segment of the population wants Donald Trump as POTUS.
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No one still understands why a growing segment of the population wants Donald Trump as POTUS.
There's a difference between understanding and agreeing.
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I hate Hillary, but in no way do I think she would be a disaster. Hated, reviled, mocked, and probably somewhat irrelevant/ineffective for being those things, but her hubby did a great job, and I think she'd be fine overall despite being a corrupt, mainstream politician.

Now Trump - the only true disaster.
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I hate Hillary, but in no way do I think she would be a disaster. Hated, reviled, mocked, and probably somewhat irrelevant/ineffective for being those things, but her hubby did a great job, and I think she'd be fine overall despite being a corrupt, mainstream politician.

Now Trump - the only true disaster.
Her husband played a major role in orchestrating the financial meltdown in 2008. Many of the weak regulations that allowed Wall Street to run rampant were passed during his time in office.

I wouldn't call that a 'great' job at all.
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Clinton had his good moments, but don't forget he had a major hand in the 2008 crash by repealing Glass Steagel and of course who could forget his tough on crime laws that turned the US prison system in to disarray paving the way for huge growth in private prisons.

Even though Christopher Hitchens had a long standing loathing for the Clintons, he still makes some great points in his unique style:

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Old 05-29-2016, 10:58 AM   #5996
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Yeah, not discounting Clinton's massive role in financial deregulation.
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Might as well add these 2, Hitchens thoughts on Trump supporters and Hillary Clinton>


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The Washington Post just won an order to release thousands of internal documents about Trump University, including what to use in sales pitches and such. Trump of course went after the judge as being Mexican because his name is Gonzalo Curiel (born in Indiana...). Trump is going to really wish he didn't run by about August, when after the media goes to town on him for months he's exposed as one of the biggest fraudsters in American history. Remember the media has essentially been licking his balls for the past year. Now that they've got the ratings candidate locked in, destroying him is the next step.
I guess we'll see if Trump is the new Teflon boss. When Cruz dropped out and he paraded in with his entourage to give his speech, he looked like a mafia don.
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Wow. Three hundred pages of Trump is done.
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