2009 NFL Off Season Thread

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by Bobblehead

Stallworth was impaired when he killed a pedestrian with his Bentley.



http://www.fannation.com/si_blogs/nf...81?eref=fromSI

Have fun in prison, Donte.

[AaronSJ]

What a sad story... Florida has relatively strict DUI Manslaughter laws -- 4 years in jail MINIMUM, up to 15 years maximum and a mandatory lifetime driving ban.

If convicted, his NFL career is over.

Crabtree to the Browns at #5???

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by Joborule

My point is that Culter has more value then Cassels. Why downgrade from a superstar QB in the making to a QB that just had one good year?

Again...thats your opinion.....and not necessarily the opinion of McDaniels...why are you not accepting that?

And I am a LONG way from anointing Cutler as a "superstar". Great talent on a good offensive team...yes. But he has a LOT of learning to do both on and off the field apparently.

[Joborule]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Again...thats your opinion.....and not necessarily the opinion of McDaniels...why are you not accepting that?

And I am a LONG way from anointing Cutler as a "superstar". Great talent on a good offensive team...yes. But he has a LOT of learning to do both on and off the field apparently.

I'm not accepting it because I don't see why a player that step up in situation where the star QB went down, is a better replacement for a QB that made it to the pro bowl and likely would have easily gotten his team in the playoffs in the defense looked like an NFL defense. I'm not in favour of McDaniels think Cassel is worth it which is why he doesn't get a vote of approval from me right now.

[Joborule]

Originally Posted by Bobblehead

Stallworth was impaired when he killed a pedestrian with his Bentley.



http://www.fannation.com/si_blogs/nf...81?eref=fromSI

I tell you man. NFL players are so god damn stuipd! Whomever the personals are that are suppose to mature up NFL rookies and prepare them for life deal with a lot of deadbolts since we hear so many legal troubles to NFL players.

[Clever_Iggy]

Originally Posted by Displaced Flames fan

Good grief, this is just flat out assinine.

From a Raiders fan to a Broncos fan:

I know how it feels.

[mykalberta]

Originally Posted by Joborule

I tell you man. NFL players are so god damn stuipd! Whomever the personals are that are suppose to mature up NFL rookies and prepare them for life deal with a lot of deadbolts since we hear so many legal troubles to NFL players.

No kidding. He was a smaller Fitzgerald when he played in NE.

I always wished the Broncos would have picked him up. Now I am glad they didnt.

[Sainters7]

Originally Posted by mykalberta

No kidding. He was a smaller Fitzgerald when he played in NE.

I always wished the Broncos would have picked him up. Now I am glad they didnt.

Meh, that guy's never been anything more than maybe a good #2-3 WR. I loved him in New Orleans but he never did fulfill expectations. I'm sure Eagles, Pats and Browns fans can attest to that. Not to mention he could never manage to keep himself healthy for a full year, earning him the nickname Donte Streetclothes with Saints fans. I notice this trend has continued since he left N.O.

I'm beginning to notice a trend which leads me to believe you should stay away from Vols WR's, at least in terms of trying to build them into a franchise WR.

[burn_baby_burn]

Originally Posted by AaronSJ

What a sad story... Florida has relatively strict DUI Manslaughter laws -- 4 years in jail MINIMUM, up to 15 years maximum and a mandatory lifetime driving ban.

If convicted, his NFL career is over.

Crabtree to the Browns at #5???

I hope he does get the four years minimum. I'm sick of pro athletes getting off scott free.

[browna]

Originally Posted by AaronSJ

I don't think it's out of the question -- Hasselbeck is near the end of his career, and I think both Stafford & Sanchez would benefit from a year or two on the sidelines (like Rivers & Rodgers did...).

But I also think Seattle really likes Seneca Wallace and just might give him a shot at the starting job after Hasselbeck retires. Wallace actually played really well last season -- 11TD to 3 INT and he won 3 of his 7 starts behind a bad team without decent receivers...

I think Seattle has too many other needs to pick a QB so high... I do think they'd take Josh Freeman with pick #36 if he's available.

Yeah, SEA's done well with filling some of the holes previously thought to be filled by the draft (WR, DL, OL) through trades and free agenecy (like the Petersen deal...Petersen was the odd man out given his $ and given Tutupuu and Hill's $).
I don't think Wallace is a given as the next starter...Holmgren liked him, but being in Hasselbeck's shadow (who's hardly a leader or mentor type guy) Wallace is pretty much figuring things out by himself. I figure he may have this year at most, to impress Mora.

He's got the legs, and an ok arm, but not the decision making skills (or, at best, similar to Hasselebeck questionable decision making skills (for a 10 year QB, no less).

Hasslebeck has this year and at most one more year in SEA unless he really lights it up. Again though, even if SEA takes the chance to draft a QB, Hasslebeck is not the mentor you want to teach the new guy the ropes IMO. Plus, given SEA's record of drafting QB's (Dan McGwire, Rick Mirer, Kelly Stoufer etc), whoever is to announce the selection after its been decided on, should change his mind at the microphone and go with the other guy.

So in short, as the last few weeks have gone on, it would not surprise me now, as much as it would've March 1.

[Displaced Flames fan]

More lunacy in Denver it seems...

http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_11974189

In addition to Tony Scheffler being deemed useless to the Broncos (I haven't hit much on that yet) they've now determined they don't need Peyton Hillis either. Selvin Young I get. Torain shows promise (has no value anyway with the knee) so I'd like to see him get another shot, but I could live with that. But Peyton Hillis? Really? Denver doesn't need this guy?

Unbelievable stuff going on in Denver. I suppose the next player to be let go will be Wesley Woodyard. League minimum LB who really should be starting.

[burn_baby_burn]

ESPN Blog states Broncos in no rush to trade Cutler.

http://myespn.go.com/blogs/nflnation...on-Cutler.html

DANA POINT, Calif. -- The Denver Broncos don't sound like they are entering the NFL owners' meeting with the intention of trading unhappy quarterback Jay Cutler.
As teams gather and prepare to talk turkey with Denver, new Broncos coach Josh McDaniels said Cutler is "our quarterback."
McDaniels' reiteration likely will not sway teams from trying to trade for Cutler. The Denver Post reported last week that 10 teams were interested in Cutler. The New York Daily News is reporting that the Jets want Cutler.
More trade talk is expected. Still, the Broncos have not opened the trade doors yet. Sources say the Broncos want to talk to Cutler a third time to try to get on the same page before talking trade.
The biggest stumbling block for the Broncos in dealing Cutler is they don't have a quarterback to start if he is traded. If Denver can devise a plan to get a suitable starter in a trade or through the draft, and it thinks the Cutler problem is beyond repair, it may start listening.
But McDaniels' comments Monday shows, at least publicly, the team isn't there yet.
Meanwhile, the Denver Post is reporting the team may be interested in trading running backs Ryan Torain or Peyton Hillis. Both players were rookies last season and both were put on injured reserve. Denver has added three veteran running backs -- Correll Buckhalter, J.J. Arrington and LaMont Jordan -- this offseason. Hillis was very impressive when he played last season and he is versatile, so a trade involving him would be somewhat surprising.

[Pagal4321]

Originally Posted by Displaced Flames fan

More lunacy in Denver it seems...

http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_11974189

In addition to Tony Scheffler being deemed useless to the Broncos (I haven't hit much on that yet) they've now determined they don't need Peyton Hillis either. Selvin Young I get. Torain shows promise (has no value anyway with the knee) so I'd like to see him get another shot, but I could live with that. But Peyton Hillis? Really? Denver doesn't need this guy?

Unbelievable stuff going on in Denver. I suppose the next player to be let go will be Wesley Woodyard. League minimum LB who really should be starting.

Yea, let me tell you, I can't help but feel bad for Broncos fans. New management comes in and deems a boatload of players (starters and backups) useless for the team?

Seems like quite the gong show going on in Denver.

[transplant99]

For some reason that link wont open for me Dis...but

Scheffler? Wow. That surprises me more than Cutler...dude is a stud. Wonder what the thinking is there? Is he a big cap hit or something?

[mykalberta]

Originally Posted by Pagal4321

Yea, let me tell you, I can't help but feel bad for Broncos fans. New management comes in and deems a boatload of players (starters and backups) useless for the team?

Seems like quite the gong show going on in Denver.

The team choked down the stretch, got an "un-fireable" coach fired.

If the management/coach want a new direction, some players that were starters under Shanahan are now benchwarmers. or cut. No problem with it.

I dont know alot of the younger players althought I agree about Woodyard.

[Bobblehead]

Raiders starting RT, Cornell Green, was arrested on Domestic Assault charges.

http://www.sportingnews.com/yourturn...c.php?t=530348

How many players might be suspended for the first few weeks of the season?

[burn_baby_burn]

I heard a rumor out of the NFL meetings that the league plans on honoring the 50th anniversary of the AFL this coming season. Sounds like on two weeks of the upcoming season all eight of the original AFL teams will play each other in four games wearing original AFL uniforms. Meaning for instance that the Chiefs will be wearing the Dallas Texans helmets and uniforms. More details to be announced later in the week.

[OILFAN #81]

Season starts September 10th with Pittsburgh playing Tennessee.

[Displaced Flames fan]

Originally Posted by transplant99

For some reason that link wont open for me Dis...but

Scheffler? Wow. That surprises me more than Cutler...dude is a stud. Wonder what the thinking is there? Is he a big cap hit or something?

The system McDaniels is implementing doesn't 'value' Scheffler's mold of TE.

Benjamin Watson only caught 22 passes last year. He was primarily used as a blocker.

Seems to me though, that if you have a player like Scheffler, maybe you tweak your system to include some plays for him? Just ridiculous stuff.

Scheffler should work on his blocking (he's certainly not a bad blocker). I have no problem with that, but good grief don't turn your back on assets you have just because they don't mimic what your 'genius' mentor had in Foxboro.

[Displaced Flames fan]

Originally Posted by mykalberta

The team choked down the stretch, got an "un-fireable" coach fired.

If the management/coach want a new direction, some players that were starters under Shanahan are now benchwarmers. or cut. No problem with it.

I dont know alot of the younger players althought I agree about Woodyard.

Really? Scheffler, Hillis et al aren't good enough for the new Broncos?

Not fine with it here at all.

Again, the offense was NOT the problem.

I really thought the defense played well when Nate Webster (good riddance) was out and to a lesser extent DJ, and Woodyard was starting. Remember the Atlanta game? Woodyard and Larsen were unbelievable.