Who did you vote for? - Official Election Results Thread

[Cowboy89]

Originally Posted by CaramonLS

I thought the Liberals ran a terrible campaign - was there even a single commerical which ran about Kevin Taft?

The only commericals that ran that I can recall were Stemachs and the "no plan for Alberta" ones, which advertised no alternative. I bet over half of Albertans had no idea who Taft even was and probably still don't.

Not only that, (And this is an area in which I actually thought that Rick 'The Dinger' Bell at the Calgary sun was right about), when the Alberta Medical Association endorsed Liberals, Taft insted emphasized his policy of holding legislature in a different city/town two weeks of the year. WTF? How does that help anyone and why would he give a non-issue policy initiative more emphasis than the #1 issue? Horrible campaigning.

[SeeGeeWhy]

Some thoughts...

1. I was sad to see the person I voted for not even register on the radar screen. It makes me wonder how important those lawn signs really are in all of this.

2. I was happy to see Kent Hehr get in - I've met the guy a few times and he is smart as hell. Its only a good thing to have people like that involved with public office.

3. A majority of my friends who voted PC are happy they won so easily, but were quick to mention that they will NOT be voting for Stelmach in the next PC election, which I found interesting.

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by SeeGeeWhy

3. A majority of my friends who voted PC are happy they won so easily, but were quick to mention that they will NOT be voting for Stelmach in the next PC election, which I found interesting.

This is the way I feel. PCers elected a poor leader because of a nasty campaign where Dinning and Morton took each other down. Hopefully there will be a better candidate for the leadership next time around.
Not liking Stelmach does not mean abandoning the party entirely and erasing a good record over the last couple of decades.

[You Need a Thneed]

Originally Posted by CaramonLS

I thought the Liberals ran a terrible campaign - was there even a single commerical which ran about Kevin Taft?

During the 6 o'clock news yesterday on Global, the same Kevin Taft ad was shown once or twice every commercial break. Everyong know that a great time to start advertising is two hours before the polls close.

[calculoso]

For me, the election broke down like this:

PCs:
Desired Royalty Revenue: $$$
Spending: $$$

Liberals:
Desired Royalty Revenue: $$$$$$
Spending: $$$$$$$

NDP:
Desired Royalty Revenue: $$$$$$$$
Spending: $$$$$$$$$$

WAP:
Desired Royalty Revenue: $
Spending:

Add to that, a lack of any kind of leadership from any of the party leaders... What an incentive to vote! Who is the best of the worst? Ughhh

[Canada 02]

I don't know why i find this amusing

http://www.cbc.ca/albertavotes2008/map/fullscreen.html#

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by CaramonLS

I thought the Liberals ran a terrible campaign - was there even a single commerical which ran about Kevin Taft?

The only commericals that ran that I can recall were Stemachs and the "no plan for Alberta" ones, which advertised no alternative. I bet over half of Albertans had no idea who Taft even was and probably still don't.

I saw those anti-Stelmach ads on Sportsnet and I didn't even know they were Liberal campaign ads. Not only did they not mention Taft, but they didn't even mention the party name.

Is "liberal" such a bad word that they would be afraid to even say it in an ad? It's like they wanted you to go to some non-descript website, convince you that their ideas were good, and say; "SURPRISE, we're Liberals!".

Honest question here... but how many die-hard PCers in Alberta would purposely go to a Liberal website, read a Liberal pamphlet, or invite a Liberal campaigner into their home? I agree that it is partly up to the Party to get their message out there, but it is also up to responsible citizens to educate themselves. Let's face it, the Liberal and NDP parties are practically "fringe" parties in Alberta. They can't advertise as much as the PCs, and the PCs themselves don't really need to.

I get the sense that many PCers are loyal to the point that they aren't going to go out of their way to find out about other parties, and they rely on word of mouth from other PCers or the National Post to fill them in.

[Azure]

Originally Posted by photon

I can, but that's not something we typically reveal without a good reason. He's not misrepresenting himself if that's what you're getting at. EDIT: Oops, didn't see that KG already replied.

Yeah....sorry for asking. I didn't even think that it would be against the rules.

I guess he must of not been here or born when NEP was implemented.....or he VERY painfully oblivious to what happened.

[JiriHrdina]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

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Honest question here... but how many die-hard PCers in Alberta would purposely go to a Liberal website, read a Liberal pamphlet, or invite a Liberal campaigner into their home?.

Loaded question. Parties rarely if every get the die-hard supporters to switch sides.

What they needed to do is get the moderates to change. Which is possible but it's going to take a long time.

[calculoso]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

Honest question here... but how many die-hard PCers in Alberta would purposely go to a Liberal website, read a Liberal pamphlet, or invite a Liberal campaigner into their home?

Personally, I wouldn't ever invite any political candidate into my home. I did go to the Liberal website and did read the Liberal pamphlet, but considered their leader to be such a condescending idiot that it didn't really matter who was running in my riding. The election debate (especially the second half) further cemented my opinion of him.

[Azure]

Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame

Albertans will realize that social programs and green policies can actually do good in the long run,

No they can't. Not if the government implements them.

[Bobblehead]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

I saw those anti-Stelmach ads on Sportsnet and I didn't even know they were Liberal campaign ads. Not only did they not mention Taft, but they didn't even mention the party name.

They weren't.

Those were funded by the Alberta Federation of Labour

[Azure]

Originally Posted by peter12

Have you ever been near a rig? Those guys are hard workers. The oil doesn't just come flying out of the ground like it did for the Beverly Hillbillies.

Yeah.

I wonder if Flamey has ever worked 12 hours shifts before.

[Azure]

Originally Posted by fotze

Also, the rural population is over represented in this province and I would bet they really really like Stelmach.

Maybe.

Or we just all have good PC MLA's.

The Liberal and NDP representative in my riding were both idiots.

[Ozy_Flame]

Originally Posted by Azure

No they can't. Not if the government implements them.

You're right. A properly-funded universal health care system is the bastion for failing democracies.

Let's see how, for example, the BC Carbon Tax program works out. Then you can make an assessment.

[Aeneas]

Originally Posted by Cowboy89

I have a hard time believing that Liberal voters voted for them because the Liberals best suited 'average Alberta.' The Alberta Liberal Party has been dominated and traditionally supported by civil servants, teachers, University Professors and health care workers. Oddly enough their platform probably suits employees of such institutions the best and I'd lump them in with the self-interested voters just as much as any other party.

Did you listen to Taft's concession speech?
He started off listing the groups that support and vote for the Liberal party. Educators, medical professionals, arts groups, etc. last on the list was business leaders. Went on to say the Liberals would carry on the fight for the average Albertan. I think it was clear the average Albertan did not support him.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by JiriHrdina

Loaded question. Parties rarely if every get the die-hard supporters to switch sides.

What they needed to do is get the moderates to change. Which is possible but it's going to take a long time.

Fair enough. I suppose most people who are "party" people (Liberal or Conservative) have their minds made up and are going to vote for their party regardless. The leader could be a barn animal rapist, and it wouldn't matter. You hear reasons like; "the other party has no solutions", but I would be willing to bet that most "party" people don't really know. They vote on loyalty.

Alberta though, seems to have an extreme number of "party" people, and it is almost all for just one party. Relatively speaking of course. Other provinces seem to have way more swing voters. I have actually voted for 4 different parties in my life (Liberals, PCs, Greens, and Mel Hurtig's old National Party). I lived in Alberta during the last provincial election and abstained.

[Azure]

Originally Posted by Canada 02

I don't know why i find this amusing

http://www.cbc.ca/albertavotes2008/map/fullscreen.html#

PC won here with 64% of the vote.

[Azure]

Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame

You're right. A properly-funded universal health care system is the bastion for failing democracies.

Let's see how, for example, the BC Carbon Tax program works out. Then you can make an assessment.

How about we just look at Canadian Health Care System?

The government has a history of creating screwed up programs.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by Bobblehead

They weren't.

Those were funded by the Alberta Federation of Labour

Thanks for the correction. I thought they were Liberal ads.