08-18-2022, 06:04 PM
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#581
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Looking at draft picks in spots 20-32 since 2000 and what a dogs breakfast, other than 2003. There may be 15 actual players of consequence out of those 300+ guys picked and people are debating that adding one of the first rounders to move Monahan's contract is bad, just wow.
Give me Kadri any day, and I loved Monahan up to today. I just don't think he will ever return to what he was after 2 hip surgeries and congratulate Tre for making this move.
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08-18-2022, 06:05 PM
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#582
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: Calgary
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Re: Lucic vs. Monahan.
I don't believe it was about Murray Edwards trying to save a few bucks or Lucic exercising a NTC. Lucic has a role on this team, and maybe a significant one for a team trying to contend, and Monahan no longer did.
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08-18-2022, 06:05 PM
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#583
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Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Cleveland, OH (Grew up in Calgary)
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08-18-2022, 06:08 PM
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#584
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Franchise Player
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Assuming the deals weren't really out there for Lucic, this is ok. I would have rather took a gamble on a Monahan resurgence if we could have offloaded Lucic and not given up our first.
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08-18-2022, 06:14 PM
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#585
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
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Quote:
Originally Posted by chedder
Assuming the deals weren't really out there for Lucic, this is ok. I would have rather took a gamble on a Monahan resurgence if we could have offloaded Lucic and not given up our first.
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I think there were deals out there for Lucic that were allowed by his trade list, but not ones that didn't send Salary back to the Flames.
The Boston rumor came up around the time Kadri and Calgary supposedly agreed to a deal.
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08-18-2022, 06:14 PM
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#586
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by chedder
Assuming the deals weren't really out there for Lucic, this is ok. I would have rather took a gamble on a Monahan resurgence if we could have offloaded Lucic and not given up our first.
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Seems obvious they would have done this if possible...they had Kadri locked up for a week, had to make it happen
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08-18-2022, 06:15 PM
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#587
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Commie Referee
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Small town, B.C.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RedHawk12
Re: Lucic vs. Monahan.
I don't believe it was about Murray Edwards trying to save a few bucks or Lucic exercising a NTC. Lucic has a role on this team, and maybe a significant one for a team trying to contend, and Monahan no longer did.
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Agreed. Plus, where would Monahan play? 4th line center? I don't think so.
Big salary, no place to play, injury prone.
Easy decision to make. You keep the big winger who is still one of the best scrappers in the league for one more year, especially when you know the Kadri/Kane fireworks are going to happen this year at some point.
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08-18-2022, 06:16 PM
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#588
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sureLoss
I think there were deals out there for Lucic that were allowed by his trade list, but not ones that didn't send Salary back to the Flames.
The Boston rumor came up around the time Kadri and Calgary supposedly agreed to a deal.
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This sounds right to me. These kind of deals are pretty complex and no way Boston can do it without offloading themselves.
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08-18-2022, 06:16 PM
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#589
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dino7c
Seems obvious they would have done this if possible...they had Kadri locked up for a week, had to make it happen
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Or they wanted to keep Lucic over Monahan even at the cost of the first round pick.
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08-18-2022, 06:21 PM
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#590
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CP Gamemaster
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: The Gary
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I don't know if this is 100% accurate but I thought a flow chart of the conditions would look hilarious.
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08-18-2022, 06:22 PM
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#591
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Seattle, WA/Scottsdale, AZ
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RedHawk12
Re: Lucic vs. Monahan.
I don't believe it was about Murray Edwards trying to save a few bucks or Lucic exercising a NTC. Lucic has a role on this team, and maybe a significant one for a team trying to contend, and Monahan no longer did.
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Bingo.
Lucic is way more valuable to the team than the current incarnation of Monahan.
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08-18-2022, 06:24 PM
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#592
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Needs More Cowbell
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Not Canada, Eh?
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Not sure why teams with the cap space weren't lining up for this deal. A 1st for only a year of Monahan? Plus Monahan could bounce back? No brainer.
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08-18-2022, 06:24 PM
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#593
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Cowtown
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Thank God we have so many lawyers on this site to clarify all these conditions
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08-18-2022, 06:26 PM
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#594
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Chicago
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Flamesfan05
It’s really Tkachuk and Monahan for Huberdeau, Kadri, Weegar and Schwindt
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That's exactly what the trade is
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08-18-2022, 06:26 PM
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#595
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mazrim
I don't know if this is 100% accurate but I thought a flow chart of the conditions would look hilarious.
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Fla 2021 is actually 2024, right?
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08-18-2022, 06:28 PM
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#596
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2022
Location: California
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gioforpm
fla 2021 is actually 2024, right?
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2025.
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08-18-2022, 06:29 PM
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#597
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mazrim
I don't know if this is 100% accurate but I thought a flow chart of the conditions would look hilarious.
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This gives me flashbacks to reading code in FORTRAN… which I haven't had to do, thank God, since 1986.
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08-18-2022, 06:29 PM
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#598
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RedHawk12
Re: Lucic vs. Monahan.
I don't believe it was about Murray Edwards trying to save a few bucks or Lucic exercising a NTC. Lucic has a role on this team, and maybe a significant one for a team trying to contend, and Monahan no longer did.
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Either that or the deals were too tough to negotiate for Lucic without money coming back and/or teams were more willing to gamble on Monahan bouncing back than Lucic not declining more.
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08-18-2022, 06:33 PM
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#599
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CP Gamemaster
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: The Gary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GioforPM
Fla 2021 is actually 2024, right?
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2025! I'm not going back and fixing this, dammit. 
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08-18-2022, 06:33 PM
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#600
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Appealing my suspension
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Just outside Enemy Lines
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Montreal is also paying 100% of the 6.125 salary commitment less escrow to Monahan too. The cap number is tough to move than tack on the salary.
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