[GDT] Trade Deadline | March 1, 2017 | TSN, SN | Deadline at 1:00 PM MT

[edslunch]

Originally Posted by Flaming Homer

Odd question. But the trade deadline is really just the last day where a player traded does not have to remain with the main club correct? In theory could Wideman still be moved closer to the end of the year when his cap hit is basically zero?

If a team hits injury problems between now and the playoffs they could trade for Wideman as a stop gap, but he wouldn't be playoff eligible.

[MrMastodonFarm]

Originally Posted by dino7c

They are a contending team with stars in their prime, never a bad thing to have two good goal tenders
They can trade him after the season
Worst case is a buyout
Trading him for nothing at the deadline would have been a bad move IMO

They might be able to trade him after the season. There is a short window to get a deal done before the expansion draft. Teams aren't going to be lining up to take him on knowing a buy-out possibility exists either.

Worst case is being forced to protect him and losing Murray.

[ComixZone]

Summary of noteable in/out from Treliving's 3 deadlines:

In:
2015 2nd round pick (Glencross)
2015 3rd round pick (Glencross)
2015 2nd round pick (Baertschi)
2016 2nd round pick (Russell)
2016 2nd round pick (Hudler)
2016 6th round pick (Jones)
2018 4th round pick (Hudler)
Brett Pollock
Michael Stone
Curtis Lazar

Out:
Curtis Glencross
Sven Baertschi
Jiri Hudler
Kris Russell
David Jones
2017 2nd round pick (Lazar)
2017 3rd round pick (Stone)
2018 5th round pick (conditional - Stone)

I don't know how you look at that and don't think "Good work, Treliving".

(updated - thanks Vinny, forgot Sven)

[Caged Great]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

Summary of noteable in/out from Treliving's 3 deadlines:

In:
2015 2nd round pick (Glencross) - Used to get Hamilton
2015 3rd round pick (Glencross) - Used to get Kylington
2016 2nd round pick (Russell) - Dillon Dube
2016 2nd round pick (Hudler) - Tyler Parsons
2016 6th round pick (Jones) - Matthew Phillips
2018 4th round pick (Hudler)
Brett Pollock
Michael Stone
Curtis Lazar
Mike Kostka

Out:
Curtis Glencross - UFA retired
Jiri Hudler - UFA and is now terrible
Kris Russell
David Jones - UFA retired
Jykri Jokipakka
2017 2nd round pick (Lazar)
2017 3rd round pick (Stone)
2018 5th round pick (conditional - Stone)

I don't know how you look at that and don't think "Good work, Treliving".

Just fleshing things out more for you.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

Summary of noteable in/out from Treliving's 3 deadlines:

In:
2015 2nd round pick (Glencross)
2015 3rd round pick (Glencross)
2016 2nd round pick (Russell)
2016 2nd round pick (Hudler)
2016 6th round pick (Jones)
2018 4th round pick (Hudler)
Brett Pollock
Michael Stone
Curtis Lazar
2nd round pick (Baertschi)

Out:
Curtis Glencross
Jiri Hudler
Kris Russell
David Jones
Sven Baertschi
2017 2nd round pick (Lazar)
2017 3rd round pick (Stone)
2018 5th round pick (conditional - Stone)

I don't know how you look at that and don't think "Good work, Treliving".

FYP forgot one deal

[18YrOldSamBennett]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

FYP forgot one deal

What about Dougie!

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[Benched]

think that was a pre-draft deal, not a deadline deal

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by 18YrOldSamBennett

What about Dougie!

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Picks acquired with Glencross at the deadline were used with the Flames own picks at the draft to acquire Dougie and trade up for Kylington

[sureLoss]

Friedman on trades left on the table:

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/3...-deadline-day/

Flames related:

Lightning GM Steve Yzerman called Los Angeles “the only taker” for Ben Bishop. Calgary was involved to some degree, but the Kings were ready when Yzerman needed his final answer. Bishop has said he thought he was going to Alberta last summer, and it’s believed the Flames were preparing a six-year offer in the $36M range. But that crumbled at the end, and, well, I’ve gotten in enough fights the last three weeks.

28. Calgary inquired on Marc-Andre Fleury a few weeks ago, but I don’t think it was anywhere near close. For one thing, getting him to go there might take an off-season trip, because it’s somewhere he’s unfamiliar with. Second, I don’t see the match on an in-season trade. I take Jim Rutherford at face value when he says his preference was to keep Fleury as Matt Murray injury insurance. Like Duchene and Landeskog, the market may be larger after the season. Fleury may also be willing to expand his list of potential destinations since he just wants to play.

29. Not surprised Calgary is sitting out Curtis Lazar the first game he is eligible to play for the Flames. Also don’t think it’s a guarantee Lazar’s arrival means Sam Bennett moves to wing. There is an option to try some things, but you don’t disrupt a surging team as you rebuild Lazar’s confidence.

[Calgary4LIfe]

Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm

They might be able to trade him after the season. There is a short window to get a deal done before the expansion draft. Teams aren't going to be lining up to take him on knowing a buy-out possibility exists either.

Worst case is being forced to protect him and losing Murray.

I can't see any way he is traded out without adding a big sweetener on top in the off-season.

Teams will be in a holding pattern waiting for Rutherford to buyout MAF. Bishop will almost assuredly be a UFA, so teams will hold out for him if they feel they have a shot at signing him. Miller might be a UFA - though with being so location specific, might not factor in.

However, you also have a lot of young up-and-coming goaltenders that are also looking like they are ready to become starters, and who teams are likely to want to trade so they don't lose them for anything either. Couple that with what is probably going to be a very short list of teams looking for goalies (Vancouver maybe, Dallas, Winnipeg, maybe St. Louis).

If I am Treliving and I suddenly prefer MAF to Elliott, my trade request would be future considerations at best, and I would be comfortable holding out for one of the other goalies available. It is more difficult for Rutherford as teams probably have other goalies ranked higher on their list this off-season.

I really do think it is going to be the choice between a buyout and negative-value trade for Pittsburgh. Either way, it is the price you pay when they try to ensure they have competent goaltending for the cup run, and you can't argue with that.

The real mistake was not trading him last season. I don't think anyone would have blinked an eye if Treliving acquired MAF for a 2nd round pick - would have been thought of as a steal in many circles. That ship has long sailed.

[David Struch]

If it costed the Flames a 2nd to include the 3 million Kotalik in the Regehr deal.

What would the price be to trade M.A. Fleury? (8 million buyout over 4 years)

1st & 2nd?
two 2nd's & 3rd?

[Strange Brew]

Granlund for Shinkaruk was around the deadline, wasn't it? There was also Knight for Shore but that didn't amount to much for anyone.

[Poe969]

Didn't' we get Kevin last year and send him out this year? I know he just left but I miss him already....

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by David Struch

If it costed the Flames a 2nd to include the 3 million Kotalik in the Regehr deal.

What would the price be to trade M.A. Fleury? (8 million buyout over 4 years)

1st & 2nd?
two 2nd's & 3rd?

Not nearly. Kotalik was a pure cap dump; Fleury is still a useful NHL goalie. On top of that, the Regehr trade was badly botched.

If you assume that Fleury is going to be out of the league next season, and that Rutherford is going to completely foul up the deal… then yes, the price might be that high. But those are some mighty big assumptions.