Fire Gulutzan/Give him Coach of the year All Purpose Thread - Page 30 - Calgarypuck Forums - The Unofficial Calgary Flames Fan Community

N-E-B · 11-13-2016, 12:43 AM

Remember when we were worried they were going to hire Randy Carlyle?

Lol.

djsFlames · 11-13-2016, 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Ashasx

Gulutzan inspires less confidence in his players than Eakins

It's not his systems that are the problem. It's this. An essential HC ability.

djsFlames · 11-13-2016, 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by SportsJunky

I just don't see any scenario where they fire him right now. No way. This is his team. He's barely got his feet wet. Are they ####ed? Yes, they probably are this season. All the more reason to keep GG and let him and the players figure this out. My .02

That would've been an acceptable line of thinking for the team in this situation 2-3 years ago.

Not in year 4, after spending to the cap and acquiring a bonafide vet starter.

So...no.

Draug · 11-13-2016, 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by SportsJunky

Watching his interview after the game, I like him. He sees what is happening and I think he'll fix it. The season is over. Let him work with this group and mold it into the team that he wants. Why fire him now? It's done.

So we don't waste the first 20% of our season next year while we adjust to a new coach.

I've completely written off this coaching staff. I'd replace them as soon as possible so a new Staff can use this season to actually start well next season..... for once.

1qqaaz · 11-13-2016, 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Draug

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So we don't waste the first 20% of our season next year while we adjust to a new coach.

I've completely written off this coaching staff. I'd replace them as soon as possible so a new Staff can use this season to actually start well next season..... for once.

I think you make a good point when you say "coaching staff" rather than just Gulutzan.

Cameron, Gelinas, Sigalet, Gulutzan, they've all been bad. We have the worst winning percentage, bad special teams, and bad goaltending.

I hope that the Flames have their team mostly put together before the end of the preseason next year. They need to gel ahead of time.

FireGilbert · 11-13-2016, 01:23 AM

Just realised Gulutzen has the same initials as Gilbert... Why didn't we see this coming!?!

Resolute 14 · 11-13-2016, 06:57 AM

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Originally Posted by 442scotty

So many mistakes made this year by management ... New coach saddled with a bunch of PTO's who just took up spaces better used to give young guys learning time , switching up Brodie and Gio so that their heads are swimming .... Special teams coaching??? Argh.... It's all one big train wreck...

Most teams offered a bunch of PTOs. Treliving deserves a lot of blame for this disaster as well, but choosing to dress guys on PTO that we were never going to sign right up to the end of camp is 100% on Gulutzan.

Rick M. · 11-13-2016, 08:07 AM

If they fire GG, the Flames had better have the coach they want lined up first.

Resolute 14 · 11-13-2016, 08:18 AM

Yup. With the season already practically over, all they should do is wait until an NHL-calibre coach they like comes available. If that isn't until the off-season, then so be it.

But most of the assistant coaches should be blown out the door immediately.

GaiJin · 11-13-2016, 08:39 AM

Now I know where I have seen GG before.

AltaGuy · 11-13-2016, 08:54 AM

Yup - I'm done with Treliving and Burke if they forcefeed this crap down our throats for the rest of the season. "We need to play a heavy game." Their mantra. I didn't know that it meant the players all need to skate as fast as sumo wrestlers and exhibit the hockey skills of same.

Treliving took a highly entertaining team that made the playoffs and just ignored the strengths, jettisoning the speed that annoyed better teams and the agile D that had Wideman looking good even.

Now we're a pile of crap. Congratulations on a brilliant "process" toward being a heavier team, Brad. Hockey is still a sport where you have to look at the players you have and use them to try to win. You have to react to events and trends as they happen.

Planning to have a heavy team five years out and ignoring results gets you Niklas Grossman just because you've stopped paying attention to anything but the height and weight columns.

/rant

Erick Estrada · 11-13-2016, 09:16 AM

I will say the team as Treliving inherited from Feaster was a small but young and fast team and Hartley milked that speed and transition game for moderate success and on most nights a fairly exciting product win or lose. Every year since the team has got bigger but slower and now they don't stand out from other teams and are just another mediocre/bad team with a small handful of good players. No identity and nothing overly promising about this group as this team is maybe a half step ahead of the Canucks now in a rebuild that looks like is going to last a lot longer than it should.

FlamesAddiction · 11-13-2016, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Rick M.

If they fire GG, the Flames had better have the coach they want lined up first.

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Originally Posted by Resolute 14

Yup. With the season already practically over, all they should do is wait until an NHL-calibre coach they like comes available. If that isn't until the off-season, then so be it.

But most of the assistant coaches should be blown out the door immediately.

The thing is, a free agent coach that has options isn't likely going to want to hop into an organization that is a coaching carousel. Successful coaches tend to avoid circuses when they can.

It's a catch 22. We need some frickin' coaching stability, but we can't stick with a dud either. Either outcome is not great.

But yeah, this time they need to interview the candidate and line them up before making the change. No more trading in the boat for a mystery box.

killer_carlson · 11-13-2016, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by 1qqaaz

The Flames next 6 opponents are:

Minnesota Wild, pretty good team
Arizona Coyotes, awful team so far
Chicago Blackhawks, Flames tend to match up well
Detroit Redwings, Flames tend to match up well
Buffalo Sabres, bad team
Columbus Blue Jackets, hit or miss team

I could see the Flames winning 4 out of the next 6 games.
We might have the pitchforks out for Gulutzan right now, but I'm expecting the next few weeks to go better.

I predict we take 3 of the possible 12 points.

Frank MetaMusil · 11-13-2016, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

The thing is, a free agent coach that has options isn't likely going to want to hop into an organization that is a coaching carousel. Successful coaches tend to avoid circuses when they can.

It's a catch 22. We need some frickin' coaching stability, but we can't stick with a dud either. Either outcome is not great.

But yeah, this time they need to interview the candidate and line them up before making the change. No more trading in the boat for a mystery box.

I think coaching stability is overrated. Every time the penguins fire a coach during the season they win a cup. If the team is better on paper than on the ice, it's the easiest move to make.

Stay Golden · 11-13-2016, 12:53 PM

Should never been hired in the first place. It was a bad joke of a decision for Gulutzan to receive the HC job then and he is proving now in mid November how it is still one of Treliving worse decisions to date. Accountability to fans Zero. Losses 10 out 16.
PK 29th
PP 29th
GF 18th
GA 29th
Yes real smart decision to keep this disaster. Yes Treliving please tell us again and again why this idiot was what the Flames needed. Please tell us again why Cameron was the right hire. Please tell us again why Grossman was given a contract. Please tell us again why PTO Versteeg was catapaulted to the 1st line. Please tell us why Chaisson, a junk 4th liner who couldn't stick on a crap Sens roster played on the Flames1st line lastnight.
The Flames problems start with Gulutzan and Treliving.

Enoch Root · 11-13-2016, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Frank MetaMusil

Gllluuuuuuueeeee Guuuuuuuuunnnnn.....

Please stop with this nonsense.

Your obsession with Treliving is approaching Where-R-U-Chris-O'Sullivan levels.

But this attempt to create a nickname is even worse - it's stupid and it won't fly. And you post it multiple times in every GT, PGT, and thread about the coach or GM.

scotty2hotty · 11-13-2016, 01:06 PM

I'm pretty sure this nickname has already stuck.

Pardon the pun.

DeluxeMoustache · 11-13-2016, 01:10 PM

A couple of things I noted from After Hours.

Firstly, him saying "we are fragile right now". I don't like the buddy coach. Hartley had a pedigree, said things like that they had some good kids that need to learn how to win. No question who the boss was, and Hartley would never have lumped himself in with the fragile.

Secondly, him not showing up on the bench until the last second before the period starts because they are looking at video on the computer. Thorough? Or unprepared, and desperate.

Just more questions with this guy.

I think he might make a good assistant coach though

Frank MetaMusil · 11-13-2016, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Please stop with this nonsense.

Your obsession with Treliving is approaching Where-R-U-Chris-O'Sullivan levels.

But this attempt to create a nickname is even worse - it's stupid and it won't fly. And you post it multiple times in every GT, PGT, and thread about the coach or GM.

Lol. Put me on ignore if my posts are ruining your experience.