Wideman Decision Expected Wednesday

[Qwerty]

Wideman would be subject to an automatic 10-game suspension under Rule 40.3. He'll have a hearing after the All-Star Game.

[TheScorpion]

Originally Posted by saillias

Not sure why the new thread announcing the suspension was locked. I thought it's been well established that forcing CPers to navigate mega-threads to find information as events unfold is villainous, and new events are worthy of new threads.

I agree. I created that thread because megathreads are nearly impossible to navigate.

[tvp2003]

Originally Posted by Otto-matic

Ever been hit in the face with a ball? You lose your surroundings and reaction time momentarily. He may not have been concussed, I don't think the Flames would let a guy play if he showed any signs of a concussion.

Concussion or not, Wideman doesn't strike me as the kind of guy to miss a shift unless he's really not feeling right.

[DionTheDman]

Originally Posted by tvp2003

Concussion or not, Wideman doesn't strike me as the kind of guy to miss a shift unless he's really not feeling right.

[Robbob]

Or it could be the NHL getting in front and nipping it in the butt. Say a hearing is scheduled after the allstar break and everyone will stop talking about it and forget about it once the pucks start dropping.

Tuesday will roll around and they will have successfully swept it under the rug.

[Nehkara]

This is BS. He was obviously dazed and hurt and trying to get off the ice. No intent here at all.

It will be a TOTAL joke if he is suspended.

[TheScorpion]

Originally Posted by Nehkara

This is BS. He was obviously dazed and hurt and trying to get off the ice. No intent here at all.

It will be a TOTAL joke if he is suspended.

If he is so dazed and hurt, why was he back on the ice 2 minutes later? And, if he was so injured, how would he be able to push Henderson with the force he did, or even get up, without falling, in the first place?

There was injury on the play, the opponent was defenseless.

[DownhillGoat]

Originally Posted by pgsieve

To me it makes sense to lock this thread and continue the conversation with the new info in the other thread

Makes sense to me. Beats wading through 10 (or 355) pages of the same back-and-forth to find out what Wideman's statement was.

[codynw]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

I agree. I created that thread because megathreads are nearly impossible to navigate.

I don't really have a problem with them, especially since the red arrow beside the thread title takes you directly to the first unread post.

[Otto-matic]

Originally Posted by tvp2003

Concussion or not, Wideman doesn't strike me as the kind of guy to miss a shift unless he's really not feeling right.

I don't know what this gif really implies, every player uses smelling salts. Heck Johnny used them.

[MillerTime GFG]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

If he is so dazed and hurt, why was he back on the ice 2 minutes later? And, if he was so injured, how would he be able to push Henderson with the force he did, or even get up, without falling, in the first place?

There was injury on the play, the opponent was defenseless.

As someone who has had more than one concussion through sport, I can tell you that how you feel within the first minute or two after one is MUCH different than how you feel a few minutes later.

I wanted to go back on the field after my first concussion (which I didn't know I had one at the time) because I thought I was fine. My trainer put me through concussion protocol asking me to recite all the months of the year backwards. I completely missed 4 months of the year, but I thought I nailed it.

I still don't know why the trainers let him back on the ice, but I'm definitely not surprised he himself wanted to go back on. A lot of the time when you get a concussion, you feel alright a few minutes after, but much worse in the coming days.

[Igottago]

Looks bad if all you see is a gif but given the broader context its purely accidental. There is just no motive for Wideman to have intentionally gone up to a linesman and hit him from behind. Just one of those things where he had his bell rung and unexpectedly ran into someone on the way to the bench, and put his hands up as a gut reaction.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

If he is so dazed and hurt, why was he back on the ice 2 minutes later? And, if he was so injured, how would he be able to push Henderson with the force he did, or even get up, without falling, in the first place?

There was injury on the play, the opponent was defenseless.

a. Because he recovered.
b. Because there wasn't really that much force. Henderson just wasn't expecting the hit and was off-balance. Players who are gliding but run into each other get badly hurt all the time because they can't brace for it.
c. Did you even see how he got up? He hardly made it to his feet and was bent over half way to the bench.

"Injury on the play"? This isn't a play related hearing. Opponent defenceless? There was no opponent.

[Rejean31]

I don't get how this has turned into a league wide #### storm, yet last week Oiler Zach Kassian aggressively shoves a linesman after an altercation and no one says boo about that. Kassian has a troubled history with league suspensions, Wideman does not. A case could also be made that Kassians shove was intentional while Widemans collision was accidental or reactionary. Katz probably payed the league some hush money!

[TheScorpion]

Originally Posted by MillerTime GFG

As someone who has had more than one concussion through sport, I can tell you that how you feel within the first minute or two after one is MUCH different than how you feel a few minutes later.

I wanted to go back on the field after my first concussion (which I didn't know I had one at the time) because I thought I was fine. My trainer put me through concussion protocol asking me to recite all the months of the year backwards. I completely missed 4 months of the year, but I thought I nailed it.

I still don't know why the trainers let him back on the ice, but I'm definitely not surprised he himself wanted to go back on. A lot of the time when you get a concussion, you feel alright a few minutes after, but much worse in the coming days.

Indeed, I've had 3 - the symptoms absolutely get worse before they get better.

[Phanuthier]

Originally Posted by Rejean31

I don't get how this has turned into a league wide #### storm, yet last week Oiler Zach Kassian aggressively shoves a linesman after an altercation and no one says boo about that. Kassian has a troubled history with league suspensions, Wideman does not. A case could also be made that Kassians shove was intentional while Widemans collision was accidental or reactionary. Katz probably payed the league some hush money!

One looks cooler to the media then the other, and sport fans are easy to herd.

[oilyfan]

Originally Posted by Igottago

Looks bad if all you see is a gif but given the broader context its purely accidental. There is just no motive for Wideman to have intentionally gone up to a linesman and hit him from behind. Just one of those things where he had his bell rung and unexpectedly ran into someone on the way to the bench, and put his hands up as a gut reaction.

Why wouldn't the motive be that he is pissed that he got no call for the hit into the boards?

[TheScorpion]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

a. Because he recovered.
b. Because there wasn't really that much force. Henderson just wasn't expecting the hit and was off-balance. Players who are gliding but run into each other get badly hurt all the time because they can't brace for it.
c. Did you even see how he got up? He hardly made it to his feet and was bent over half way to the bench.

"Injury on the play"? This isn't a play related hearing. Opponent defenceless? There was no opponent.

a) Quick recovery, especially from a concussion - but, possible.
b) Even so - headfirst into the boards is never a good sign. Also, tell me, viewing that hit, that there wasn't much force.
c) So he went from bent over and hardly making it to being able to hit someone into the boards with force without wiping out or losing his balance? Doesn't fit, to me.
d) He actually injured someone else. Numerous other, real analysts have pointed out that this will actually impact the suspension.
e) Henderson was his "opponent", per se. It's not the best word for it, but there's no denying that he was defenseless.

10+ games easily, IMO.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by oilyfan

Why wouldn't the motive be that he is pissed that he got no call for the hit into the boards?

Because he wasn't yapping about the hit, because he is an A and used to talking to refs (they don't pick them for their hot headedness), because he hit a linesman while he was meandering to the bench, and not when he was skating aggressively towards anyone, and because he wasn't looking for the guy who hit him.

[Igottago]

Originally Posted by oilyfan

Why wouldn't the motive be that he is pissed that he got no call for the hit into the boards?

If that was the case this incident would've looked much different and more deliberate. He's skating towards the bench, not looking around for an official to target.