YLYL Thread Sexism Discussion (split from Gay Teen thread).

[Arya Stark]

The real question is why do posters care if they can see the name attached to a vote?
So someone can label them a sexist? It really doesn't matter who voted for what as long as you can see the total percentage for each choice.

Anonymous polls are the most accurate usually.

[Erick Estrada]

I haven't won anything. It's not about me as it's about freedom of choice. Freedom to be able to have a thread that maybe not everyone will love but a lot of posters will. This place like most internet forum sites is full of bullying and arguing and while it's totally fair for some to speak up with concerns with the thread due to it's controversial (to some) topic the fact is that is that it's one of the few threads here that isn't brought down by arguing and bullying. It's arguably the most peaceful thread in the entire site. Just pictures of beautiful women for people that choose to enter the thread can admire. Most are in unison that it needs to be moderated to ensure that it remains void of offensive pictures or comments but there's nothing in the thread that's R rated as everything there can bee seen on TV or in magazines. If a woman finds Maxim magazine or the Sports Illustrated Swimsuit issue offensive then I suggest she choose not to read it. Same with the thread.

[Barbecue]

Originally Posted by flameswin

Oh perfect, that's really nice of him that he was able to bring his wife up to your standards with better pics that you "have nothing against". Jesus Christ, did you seriously just type that.

If I was in favour of keeping the YLYL thread and voted that way, I'd be telling you to shut up right now, because you're honestly the exact type of poster in that thread that people are talking about when they want it gone.

was it really the photo in question, not the wife.

and if you havent been reading this thread, my comment wasnt the only thing people had issue with

[Arya Stark]

Originally Posted by Dion

I voted to get rid of the thread. If it makes some female members of this forum uncomfortable I see no reason to keep it.

We should probably get rid of the PM option then as well.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by Arya Stark

The real question is why do posters care if they can see the name attached to a vote?
So someone can label them a sexist? It really doesn't matter who voted for what as long as you can see the total percentage for each choice.

Anonymous polls are the most accurate usually.

I voted:

Keep it but allow content within to be fully inclusive

I honestly can't see the problem with seeing votes.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by Arya Stark

We should probably get rid of the PM option then as well.

expand please this please?

[Barbecue]

Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

Wait you mean your real name is Barbecue?

It sure is!
lol, there's a reason why some polls are anonymous

[Dion]

Originally Posted by Arya Stark

The real question is why do posters care if they can see the name attached to a vote?
So someone can label them a sexist? It really doesn't matter who voted for what as long as you can see the total percentage for each choice.

Anonymous polls are the most accurate usually.

In the option of shutting down the thread I would love to see the male/female percentage break down of the votes.

[Chill Cosby]

Originally Posted by Barbecue

was it really the photo in question, not the wife.



and if you havent been reading this thread, my comment wasnt the only thing people had issue with

But it was a huge part.

You know what is actually kind of funny?
Your comment was a big deal, a lot of people found it offensive that you slagged Steve's wife, calling her (I believe the general words were) average, unimpressive, and generally not fitting to post in a "hot women" thread.

And yet, now that the side that believes it should be kept the same is up to 51%, you're in here strutting around like your team won the big game. I've got news for you. If you have an infection in 49% of your body, (aside from the fact you're probably dead) you need it treated. You don't say "51% of my body is fine!", you see there is a problem and you fix it. You didn't "win", the kind of stuff that you and others are guilty of was properly exposed. You, on a personal level, lost. You're "that guy".

I think this is actually a perfect example that some people, in fact, don't learn simply by public shaming or by self moderation. Because you don't appear to have learned a single thing.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Dion

In the option of shutting down the thread I would love to see the male/female percentage break down of the votes.

Why should it be produced on an anonymous vote how many females voted for what? That's sexist in itself. I didn't see any instructions for "males vote here" and "females vote here".

[JiriHrdina]

Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

I think this is an important topic.

I assume that others, at least those that voted assume so as well. If they think it is important as well, then why not attach your "name" to your vote?

What do posters have to fear?

That is just my opinion.

Some folks are always reluctant to share a viewpoint that is counter from the majority. This site can have a powerful groupthink component that makes things harder for dissenting views. I'm guilty of it myself.

If the poll isn't anonymous I wager there would be people who would not be comfortable voting.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Chill Cosby

But it was a huge part.

You know what is actually kind of funny?
Your comment was a big deal, a lot of people found it offensive that you slagged Steve's wife, calling her (I believe the general words were) average, unimpressive, and generally not fitting to post in a "hot women" thread.

And yet, now that the side that believes it should be kept the same is up to 51%, you're in here strutting around like your team won the big game. I've got news for you. If you have an infection in 49% of your body, (aside from the fact you're probably dead) you need it treated. You don't say "51% of my body is fine!", you see there is a problem and you fix it. You didn't "win", the kind of stuff that you and others are guilty of was properly exposed. You, on a personal level, lost. You're "that guy".

I think this is actually a perfect example that some people, in fact, don't learn simply by public shaming or by self moderation. Because you don't appear to have learned a single thing.

To put things into better perspective over 75% have voted to keep the thread.

[JiriHrdina]

Originally Posted by Dion

In the option of shutting down the thread I would love to see the male/female percentage break down of the votes.

We have no way of doing this. We don't even know who all our female posters are.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by JiriHrdina

Some folks are always reluctant to share a viewpoint that is counter from the majority. This site can have a powerful groupthink component that makes things harder for dissenting views. I'm guilty of it myself.

If the poll isn't anonymous I wager there would be people who would not be comfortable voting.

Yep. I've taken a lot of insults over the years for not agreeing with the majority here. I'm not afraid to voice my opinion but I can understand other people not wanting to subject themselves to the public scrutiny that can go on here at times. I've been blessed with thick skin but realize a lot of people haven't and can take the criticism to heart.

[Chill Cosby]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

To put things into better perspective over 75% have voted to keep the thread.

Me included.

As I said, I suggested the "Keep it but make it more inclusive option."

Notice in my response to BBQ I didn't say "you cut off the infected limbs."

I'm happy having the thread around if changes are made. But if the mods think that 22% is important, which it is, and cut off the thread because of it that'd be ok too.

[Barbecue]

Originally Posted by Chill Cosby

But it was a huge part.

You know what is actually kind of funny?
Your comment was a big deal, a lot of people found it offensive that you slagged Steve's wife, calling her (I believe the general words were) average, unimpressive, and generally not fitting to post in a "hot women" thread.

And yet, now that the side that believes it should be kept the same is up to 51%, you're in here strutting around like your team won the big game. I've got news for you. If you have an infection in 49% of your body, (aside from the fact you're probably dead) you need it treated. You don't say "51% of my body is fine!", you see there is a problem and you fix it. You didn't "win", the kind of stuff that you and others are guilty of was properly exposed. You, on a personal level, lost. You're "that guy".

I think this is actually a perfect example that some people, in fact, don't learn simply by public shaming or by self moderation. Because you don't appear to have learned a single thing.

I said "mediocre" but you wont even bother looking up the post again, so here you are just making stuff up. Many have pointed to my post, but many have pointed to other comments that made them uncomfortable

Infection? If that's the kind of analogy you're using, the concept of a poll or voting system is lost on you.

you know whats even funnier is how ironic the public shaming or self moderation comment is. As a poster who's posted more than me and have been here for half my time. Are you sure you're not a returning poster?

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by JiriHrdina

Some folks are always reluctant to share a viewpoint that is counter from the majority. This site can have a powerful groupthink component that makes things harder for dissenting views. I'm guilty of it myself.

If the poll isn't anonymous I wager there would be people who would not be comfortable voting.

Yeah maybe you are right.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by Barbecue

I said "mediocre"

http://www.merriam-webster.com/thesaurus/mediocre

of average to below average quality <your grades are mediocre and barely acceptable>

[Barbecue]

Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

http://www.merriam-webster.com/thesaurus/mediocre

That's nice. I still said Mediocre

You realize that when using thesaurus, synonyms are still different than the original word

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by Barbecue

That's nice. I still said Mediocre

You realize that when using thesaurus, synonyms are still different than the original word

Ok, then maybe expand on your meaning of the word "Mediocre"?