There is no rush, lets do it slow and right, study how each state did it and implement their lessons learned.
I think implementing it Canada wide all in one go could be potentially disastrous. I'd be inclined to work with a few provinces at a time perhaps to work out the kinks. I dunno.
I think implementing it Canada wide all in one go could be potentially disastrous. I'd be inclined to work with a few provinces at a time perhaps to work out the kinks. I dunno.
Gotta disagree. I think that the reason there are still problems in the states that have legalized is because they've left it up to the states. All it does is move the crime to other places and lead to ambiguity in the laws between places that do not have proper borders. You're not crushing the black market that way. That is literally the whole poiint of legalization. They will still have buyers and sell to people in other provinces. They will still be able to undercut the legal industry in the legal market. It's the same reason decriminlization doesn't do anything either.
Doing it across the nation is the only way to do it IMO. It will be slow and there will be logisitcal issues initially, but it is the best way to do it. Do it or not, there is no halfway.
I have to say, decriminalization is useless. It tends to be the default position for people who acknowledge that the war on drugs doesn't work, but are afraid of what it means to legalize a drug (even though we have plenty of those already, with varying degrees of potential benefit/harm) from a social perspective (will usage go up, is there easier access for kids, etc..)
But the problem with this position is that by decriminalizing possession, you essentially keep all the bad aspects of drug use (high-level crime, street dealings with no concern for age, possible usage increase, lack of proper studies on effects, etc..) while not allowing the benefits (taxation, age-limits, regulated distribution, more informative social and youth programs, less stress on justice system, etc..)
In my opinion, if you're for decriminalization but against legalization, you're letting your personal ideals regarding drug use cloud yourself to the overall social benefits. If you're against it, just be against it. Decriminalization is not a logical position to me, it's just sitting on the fence with a buzzword that makes you feel like your with the times. If you don't care either way, the default position should really be legalization. If you do care, your position should be not to legalize. Anything in-between is essentially useless.
There are plenty of things that are decriminalized but not legalized. Things like driving over the speed limit or riding the C-train without a fare. The reasons why these things are decriminalized but not legalized are pretty straight forward.
There are plenty of things that are decriminalized but not legalized. Things like driving over the speed limit or riding the C-train without a fare. The reasons why these things are decriminalized but not legalized are pretty straight forward.
Yeah, but people don't drive across a border just to go faster due to higher speed limits, or ride a train in another city because they don't ticket non paying riders. Not really sure where you're going with that comparison.
Anyways, decriminalization wouldn't have the desired effect with weed, as the government wouldn't be controlling the growing to ensure safe product, wouldn't be enacting laws to attempt to keep it out of the hands of youngsters and wouldn't receive any revenue from it.
There's a lot of no brainer, positives about legalizing weed, and decimalization only checks off one box, which is not making criminals out of users. Granted that's an important box to check off, but it makes almost no sense to only go that far.
Like MattyC was getting at, it screams "We understand that weed shouldn't be illegal, and we can clearly see the other benefits of legalization but the subject is very taboo and past feelings on weed won't allow us to fully embrace such a no brainer".
Decriminalization is a half measure that says "We don't want to be completely behind the times, so here's kind of a thing that allows us to say we did something and aren't archaic".
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They won't be able to do it on a province to province basis, it's a federal act (Controlled drugs and substances act) that will be amended. When that happens it will be nation wide.
Yep. For better or worse (often I'm inclined to think for better), Canada's provinces have no where near the level of autonomy as the states in the US.
Doing it across the nation is the only way to do it IMO. It will be slow and there will be logisitcal issues initially, but it is the best way to do it. Do it or not, there is no halfway.
The only demographic I see being upset are dealers who can't grow.
On the radio this morning they said one of our local dispensaries was robbed by a group of people wearing Halloween masks.
It wss just 2 people.
It is the 3rd time this year. Everytime it has happened it sounds like the same guys doing it. Same heights, same body types . This time one of the idiots dropped and left there gun at the scene.
This as never happened in Victoria before this year.
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It wss just 2 people.
It is the 3rd time this year. Everytime it has happened it sounds like the same guys doing it. Same heights, same body types . This time one of the idiots dropped and left there gun at the scene.
This as never happened in Victoria before this year.
Same morons.
If was legalized and easier to access this might not have happened - although as you stated, this is a rare occasion. Places get robbed now and then.
