NHL 12 Info & Media Thread

[Achmed]

Originally Posted by bubbsy

the face off strategy can be changed by pressing RT then up with the right thumbstick (on an xbox) it's stated in the game manual that you can see in the demo.

I know how to use the face-off stradegy in NHL11. It doesn't exist in the 12 demo or not on PS3 at least.

[bubbsy]

Originally Posted by Achmed

I know how to use the face-off stradegy in NHL11. It doesn't exist in the 12 demo or not on PS3 at least.

i thought the same, but it is there.

during the post whistle cut scene, hold down the rear trigger button (left index finger button) and push what you would to skate up, and the face off positioning will be "aggressive".

[Kolbe31]

For those who are curious, the Flames Heritage Classic jersey is NOT in the game. This is a big disappointment for me, as I really like having a lot of different jersey options, vintage and otherwise.

Looks like the only jerseys that have been added, aside from the new jerseys that can be unlocked with the code (Third jerseys, Winnipeg), are:

Detroit 2009 Winter Classic
Boston 2010 Winter Classic
New Jersey Christmas jerseys (Edge & CCM)
Mighty Ducks original jerseys

Hopefully they atleast fixed the numbers on the Flames alternate jersey.

[Flash Walken]

JObo's got 14 minutes and then he can spill the beans.

[Otto-matic]

I have a gut feeling EA didn't update the Saddledome at all, hopefully I'm wrong.

[secol]

Originally Posted by Flash Walken

JObo's got 14 minutes and then he can spill the beans.

where them beans at?

[Ashasx]

A very good review from Gametrailers: http://www.gametrailers.com/video/review-nhl-12/720222

Spoiler!

9.2/10

I require the Flames' player overalls!

[Joborule]

Originally Posted by Otto-matic

I have a gut feeling EA didn't update the Saddledome at all, hopefully I'm wrong.

Spoiler!

I'll get around to answering questions shortly.

[Jordan!]

Are the Coyotes kachina jerseys in '12?

[likwid888]

Can you post the line combinations they shipped with for the flames?

[Joborule]

Originally Posted by Kolbe31

For those who are curious, the Flames Heritage Classic jersey is NOT in the game. This is a big disappointment for me, as I really like having a lot of different jersey options, vintage and otherwise.

I actually inquired about this a few months back. Apparently since the HC Flames jersey was only worn once, EA wasn't permitted to include it in the game.

Originally Posted by Bouw N Arrow

Are the Coyotes kachina jerseys in '12?

Negative

Originally Posted by Achmed

I know how to use the face-off stradegy in NHL11. It doesn't exist in the 12 demo or not on PS3 at least.

L2 (LT) + direction activates faceoff strategies.

Originally Posted by Ashasx

I require the Flames' player overalls!

Originally Posted by likwid888

Can you post the line combinations they shipped with for the flames?

Flames Overall

Offense - 87; Defense - 87; Goaltending - 89

Lineup

Spoiler!

Offense

Tanguay - Morrison - Iginla
Bourque - Jokinen - Glencross
Stajan - Langkow - Moss
Kostopoulos - Backlund - Jackman

Defense

Bouwmesster - Giordano
Staios - Babchuk
Sarich - Butler

Power Play 5 Man

Bourque - Jokinen - Iginla
Tanguay - Bouwmeester

Glencross - Morrison - Moss
Giordano - Babchuk

Power Play 4 Man

Jokinen - Iginla
Bouwmesster - Tanguay

Backlund - Bourque
Babchuk - Giordano

Penalty Kill 4 Man

Tanguay - Glencross
Giorando - Bouwmeester

Morrison - Bourque
Babchuk - Sarich

Penalty Kill 3 Man

Glencross
Giorando - Bouwmeester

Stajan
Babchuk - Sarich

Shootout

Tanguay
Jokinen
Glencross
Bourque
Iginla

Extra Attacker

Iginla
Jokinen

Goalies

Kiprusoff
Karlsson

Players Overall

Spoiler!

J. Iginla - 90
A. Tanguay - 85
J. Bouwmesster - 84
O. Jokinen - 84
R. Bourque - 84
M. Giordano - 84
C. Sarich - 83
C. Glencross - 82
A. Babchuk - 82
M. Stajan - 82
(L. Stempniak - 82)
D. Moss - 81
N. Haman - 81
D. Langkow - 81
B. Morrison - 81
C. Butler - 81
M. Backlund - 81
T. Jackman - 80
T. Kostopoulos - 79
S. Staios - 79
R. Ivanans - 79
B. Carson - 76
B. Mikkelson - 76

M. Kiprusoff 88
H. Karlsson - 81

In The System

Spoiler!

AHL

L. Irving - 76 (B)
L. Bouma - 74 (Potential: C)
C. Breen - 74 (C)
T. Brodie - 74 (B-)
P. Byron - 74 (C)
S. Meyer - 74 (C)
K. Seabrook - 74 (B-)
G. Nemisz - 74 (B-)
J. Piskula - 74 (C) (74 seems to be a magic number)
G. Desbiens - 74 (C)
B. Walter - 74 (C)
C. Wilson - 74 (C)
C. Bancks - 73 (C)
R. Grantham - 73 (C)
M. Keetley - 73 (C)
M. Wahl - 73 (B-)
J. Negrin - 72 (C)
B. Cameron - 71 (C)
L. Macmillan - 71 (C)
J. Rheault - 71 (C)
G. Patterson - 70 (C)

CHL/Other League

R. Howse - 71 (B-)
J. Ortio - 70 (C)
R. Horak - 69 (C)
S. Bartschi - 69 (B-)
A. Deilert - 68 (C)
S. Bennett - 67 (C)
M. Reinhart - 66 (C)
J. Leach - 65 (C)
P. Holland - 64 (C)
M. Ferland - 64 (C-)
L. Brossoit - 63 (B-)
T. Wotherspoon - 63 (B-)

[Flash Walken]

Hearing that it's really tough to make what should a pretty even trade with CPU in Be A GM.

Any impressions from that mode?

[Joborule]

Originally Posted by Otto-matic

Can you let us know when your allowed to if they updated the saddledome jumobtron and possibly fireballs in the pregame intro?

As I posted above, the new jumbotron is in the game. Each NHL arena has got theirs updated. (including implementing the Consol Energy Center for the Pittsburgh Penguins) Of note though, there is a surprising amount of arenas absent of the actual arenas names. (Chicago is named Chicago Stadium rather then United Center, Sharks and Bruins still don't have real life names)

Originally Posted by bubbsy

curious how the new sim engine effects the quality of beaGM?

Originally Posted by Flash Walken

Jobo, treading very lightly, I wonder if you can comment at all on the BeAGM sim engine, trades etc.

Haven't tested out the offline game modes enough yet to answer these.

Originally Posted by Achmed

Are cheap stick lifts and dives from 8 feet behind still rampant? What about backward skating big (and real life SLOW) defensemen keeping up with speedy forwards going full tilt? And goalies looking at a puck a foot in front of them watching a player skate in and roofing it, or making rediculous attempts to play it with their stick letting it go right by to the open man at the side of the net who bangs it in?

Stick lifts effectiveness has been reduced since it's not automatic puck retrieval anymore. Skating speed and momentum seems to have more importance. I've been able to attempt to drive the net better if I have a bit more of a step on the defender I've found. This is especially apparent on hardcore play style. Goalies on initial impressions are more aggressive at going after loose pucks in front of them.

Originally Posted by dobbles

though here is a question maybe you can answer regardless: regarding gameplay, how close is the demo to the real game? obviously the demo has to be pulished while there is still time for tweaks, and they also like to accentuate new features in the demo. so if you were to put a % of similarity on the 2, what would it be? hopefully that is generic enough you can answer.

The difference between the demo and the game isn't night and day to me. It seems subtle tweaks have been done, but nothing huge. I didn't play too much hardcore play style in the demo though, so playing it in the retail version makes a big difference in terms of how the game plays.

[Russic]

Looks like it only took about 3 years of bi*ching to finally get that scoreboard in there. The league of uncompromising NHL video game players would like to offer Jobo a round of applause.

[Flash Walken]

http://www.gameinformer.com/games/nh...-has-eyes.aspx

BeAGM mode still broken.

Sad.

[valo403]

Originally Posted by Flash Walken

http://www.gameinformer.com/games/nh...-has-eyes.aspx

BeAGM mode still broken.

Sad.

This is the stuff that really bothers me with EA, it's like they simply don't care. Last year you could sign anyone to a CHL team, and while that's not a huge issue since I doubt many people played CHL seasons it demonstrates the carelessness with which this stuff was approached. I find it very hard to believe that adding at least a little bit of general common sense to the AI roster management would be all that difficult, other games don't seem to find it to be as impossible as the NHL developers do.

The in game improvements seem to be decent, but with roster issues like this I'm likely to be bored with the game quite quickly. I'm also not that happy to see that rookie BAP players are lighting up the league just like in years past. I was really hoping the sim setup would let you put up a bit more of a realistic season with less minutes played etc.

I'll likely still buy it, the changes are enough to do so, but it's frustrating that the small changes that weren't added could have really taken this game to the next level.

[bubbsy]

Originally Posted by Flash Walken

http://www.gameinformer.com/games/nh...-has-eyes.aspx

BeAGM mode still broken.

Sad.

wow that's brutal. i don't understand when EA will sort out player overalls, leaving most players in the 70s. The flames forwards are practically ALL over 80 which doesn't make sense.

[Finny61]

I guess it is back to Eastside Hockey Manager 2007 for a competent Franchise mode.

[Flash Walken]

I was getting excited for it, too.

Such a piss off.

[ernie]

Seems like the modes I enjoy playing are still broken. I never bought '11 because Be a GM is broken and the Be a Pro always seems to be broken.

I have '10 and my overpowered first year pro scored 65 goals between the AHL and NHL and my team decided they didn't want to sign me because I wasn't progressing or some such nonsense. I went back this past week to play '10 and started a fantasy draft Be a GM. Lost the cup final in year 1 and in year 2 I had a bunch of prospects ready for full time duty. In order to fit these guys under the cap I had to dump salary. All well and good except I'll be damned if I could do it. No word of a lie after being frustrated in trying to move players in bad trades (for me), I tried to make the ultimate bad trade: Crosby for a 5th round pick. NO team would take him. Either he wasn't what they were looking for or they didn't want to take on more one-way contracts.

I quickly remembered why I gave up on '10 very early. Really doesn't look like I'll be getting '12. First time EVER I've gone two seasons without getting the game. Guess I'll be continue with Fifa as my sports game this year. At least with Fifa Be a Pro you get some sense of accomplishment while improving the skill of your player and working your way up through the leagues.