Libya headed for civil war? Update: Gadhafi dead

[mikey_the_redneck]

http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/310883

http://www.debka.com/article/21249/

The Al-Qaeda rebels have taken over Tripoli. It seems like Islamic ideology may fill the power vacuum. Will they institute sharia law?

"Members of the Al Qaeda-linked Libyan Islamic Fighting Group – LIFG, are in control of the former strongholds of Muammar Qaddafi captured by Libyan rebels last Sunday, Aug. 21, debkafile reports from sources in Libya. They are fighting under the command of Abd Al-Hakim Belhadj, an al Qaeda veteran from Afghanistan whom the CIA captured in Malaysia in 2003 and extradited six years later to Libya where Qaddafi held him in prison."

"Belhadj is on record as rejecting any political form of coexistence with the Crusaders excepting jihad.
His brigades were the principal rebel force in the operation for the capture of Qaddafi's Bab al-Aziziya ruling compound on Aug. 23. Saturday, Aug. 27, those brigades overran the Abu Salim district of southern Tripoli taking it from the last pro-Qaddafi holdouts in the city. Many of the prisoners released from the local jail belonged to al Qaeda."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...eda-links.html


http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...l-2344671.html

"Around 30 men lay decomposing in the heat. Many of them had their hands tied behind their back, either with plastic handcuffs or ropes. One had a scarf stuffed into his mouth. Almost all of the victims were black men. Their bodies had been dumped near the scene of two of the fierce battles between rebel and regime forces in Tripoli."

"But the mounting number of deaths of men from sub-Saharan Africa at the hands of the rebels – lynchings in many cases – raises disturbing questions about the opposition administration, the Transitional National Council (TNC) taking over as Libya's government, and about Western backing for it."

"The atrocities have apparently not been confined to Tripoli: Amnesty International has reported similar violence in the coastal town of Zawiyah, much of it against men from sub-Saharan Africa who, it has been claimed, were migrant workers."

Well there you have it, the rebel groups/tribes are racist toward the black African migrant worker population, but of course the rebels frame them all as "mercenaries" and are killing scores of them execution style and imprisoning thousands in make-shift prisons.

[mikey_the_redneck]

[NuclearPizzaMan]

Originally Posted by mikey_the_redneck

http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/310883

http://www.debka.com/article/21249/

The Al-Qaeda rebels have taken over Tripoli. It seems like Islamic ideology may fill the power vacuum. Will they institute sharia law?

"Members of the Al Qaeda-linked Libyan Islamic Fighting Group – LIFG, are in control of the former strongholds of Muammar Qaddafi captured by Libyan rebels last Sunday, Aug. 21, debkafile reports from sources in Libya. They are fighting under the command of Abd Al-Hakim Belhadj, an al Qaeda veteran from Afghanistan whom the CIA captured in Malaysia in 2003 and extradited six years later to Libya where Qaddafi held him in prison."

"Belhadj is on record as rejecting any political form of coexistence with the Crusaders excepting jihad.
His brigades were the principal rebel force in the operation for the capture of Qaddafi's Bab al-Aziziya ruling compound on Aug. 23. Saturday, Aug. 27, those brigades overran the Abu Salim district of southern Tripoli taking it from the last pro-Qaddafi holdouts in the city. Many of the prisoners released from the local jail belonged to al Qaeda."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...eda-links.html


http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...l-2344671.html

"Around 30 men lay decomposing in the heat. Many of them had their hands tied behind their back, either with plastic handcuffs or ropes. One had a scarf stuffed into his mouth. Almost all of the victims were black men. Their bodies had been dumped near the scene of two of the fierce battles between rebel and regime forces in Tripoli."

"But the mounting number of deaths of men from sub-Saharan Africa at the hands of the rebels – lynchings in many cases – raises disturbing questions about the opposition administration, the Transitional National Council (TNC) taking over as Libya's government, and about Western backing for it."

"The atrocities have apparently not been confined to Tripoli: Amnesty International has reported similar violence in the coastal town of Zawiyah, much of it against men from sub-Saharan Africa who, it has been claimed, were migrant workers."

Well there you have it, the rebel groups/tribes are racist toward the black African migrant worker population, but of course the rebels frame them all as "mercenaries" and are killing scores of them execution style and imprisoning thousands in make-shift prisons.

I heard that the rebels are aided by zionists pretending to be muslim! It's pretty much the worst case scenario here, unless the zionists are reptilian. I will try to find an out of context picture and get back to you. If I don't respond, they got me. Avenge me.

[burn_this_city]

Apparently anyone who fought against the Soviets in Afghanistan is now considered Al-Qaeda.

[mikey_the_redneck]

Originally Posted by NuclearPizzaMan

I heard that the rebels are aided by zionists pretending to be muslim! It's pretty much the worst case scenario here, unless the zionists are reptilian. I will try to find an out of context picture and get back to you. If I don't respond, they got me. Avenge me.

I don't know why you bother to go out of your way and post this....maybe trying to fish a few thanks out of the one-liner crew?

Lame....

[CaptainCrunch]

I don't think that there is any doubt that there will be a fight over the power vacuum, usually revolutionaries or rebels turn on each other and fight for control once they over throw the government.

But from everything that I've read, this Al-Queada brigade is not a major player.

I think its kind of funny how the name of Al-Queda is thrown around as if its one group, one all encompassing mass army of global terrorists.

That ended several years ago, when every petty terrorist franchised himself as a member of Al-Queda. The original Al-Queda which was more of a telephone functionality or the terrorist version of Haliburton was actually fairly small, and its smaller now, and has been bled pretty much dry by the Deaths of most of its leaders over the past several years.

The sad thing is that terrorist groups used to be so creative with their names. FARC, Red Brigade, now its Al Queda in Iraq, Al Queda in Libya, Al Queda in Thailand.

[mikey_the_redneck]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

I think its kind of funny how the name of Al-Queda is thrown around as if its one group, one all encompassing mass army of global terrorists.

The sad thing is that terrorist groups used to be so creative with their names. FARC, Red Brigade, now its Al Queda in Iraq, Al Queda in Libya, Al Queda in Thailand.

Yeah, the media likes to use Al-Qaeda as a blanket term to keep the fear alive, and it is funny....

I think LIFG (Libyan Islamic Fighting Group) is a cool terror group name though....

[blankall]

Originally Posted by mikey_the_redneck

This picture may not be what you are saying it is. Ghaddafi also contracted hundreds of men from sub-saharan Africa as part of his mercenary army to fight the rebels. These men in handcuffs might just be captured mercenaries who had previouly been firing on protestors and rebel fighters.

[Stay Golden]

Originally Posted by mikey_the_redneck

Yeah, the media likes to use Al-Qaeda as a blanket term to keep the fear alive, and it is funny....

I think LIFG (Libyan Islamic Fighting Group) is a cool terror group name though....

Sounds like something a group of teens would create online to play COD.
btw what in the blue hell is sharia law?
Thanks for the update above really informative

[868904]

Originally Posted by Flame Of Liberty

Libya: David Cameron and Nicolas Sarkozy host victory summit as scramble for oil wealth begins

Russia has finally moved to recognise Libya’s victorious rebels as Moscow seeks to muscle in on postwar reconstruction and to protect its economic interests in the oil-rich North African country.

As David Cameron joins Nicolas Sarkozy for a post conflict summit with over 50 countries, Nato and the United Nations in Paris, Russia dropped its opposition to military intervention in Libya and demanded that rebels honour lucrative energy and construction contracts signed by Gaddafi and worth billions.

The French newspaper Liberation reported on Thursday that it had obtained a letter showing that the rebels had agreed to give France priority access to 35 per cent of Libya’s oil.

Russia and China, which were both critical of the Nato intervention, will battle to keep their economic influence in a post-Gaddafi Libya in scramble with British and French companies for oil wealth and contracts to rebuild the war torn country.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...th-begins.html

So the feast is about to start. Should be a spectacle of epic proportions. Go Sarky!

Wait, I thought ONLY the Americans do this kind of stuff, you mean EVERYONE does it?

I'm shocked! I've been told that Americans are the scum of the earth and that the French are peace loving people. You mean we are all scum?

[burn_this_city]

Sharia law is a set of laws used to govern Muslims derived from the Quran and in some cases the Hadiths.

[mikey_the_redneck]

Originally Posted by blankall

This picture may not be what you are saying it is. Ghaddafi also contracted hundreds of men from sub-saharan Africa as part of his mercenary army to fight the rebels. These men in handcuffs might just be captured mercenaries who had previouly been firing on protestors and rebel fighters.

There are hundreds of thousands of migrant black workers in Libya. One source said that near 1/3 of the population is black. Very few of these people are actually fighting for Ghadafi. Amnesty International and other groups have said that most of these people are foreign workers being pulled form their homes, and beaten, killed, or imprisoned.

The rebels are using the "mercenary" excuse to murder and detain large numbers of these sub-Saharan black Africans. The various tribes in eastern Libya are fanatical Islamic racists and wish to rid Libya of blacks, almost genocidal in nature. Ghadafi ran a secular state and alowed the black workers into Libya.

This is an ugly civil war...and I have my doubts that a "democracy" will emerge in Libya. Egypt has failed in that respect also....

[burn_this_city]

Egypt hasnt failed at anything, they are still going to have elections this year. I personally believe if the military doesnt like the outcome, ie the Salafists win, they will coup much like the Turkish military has done numerous times.

[mikey_the_redneck]

Originally Posted by Stay Golden

Sounds like something a group of teens would create online to play COD.
btw what in the blue hell is sharia law?
Thanks for the update above really informative

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sharia

It's pretty hardcore.

[jammies]

Originally Posted by mikey_the_redneck

I don't know why you bother to go out of your way and post this....maybe trying to fish a few thanks out of the one-liner crew?

The one-liner crew is vastly superior to the "quote the stories that fit into an imminent muslimOblackma-feminazi-gummint takeover theory" crew.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by mikey_the_redneck

There are hundreds of thousands of migrant black workers in Libya. One source said that near 1/3 of the population is black. Very few of these people are actually fighting for Ghadafi. Amnesty International and other groups have said that most of these people are foreign workers being pulled form their homes, and beaten, killed, or imprisoned.

The rebels are using the "mercenary" excuse to murder and detain large numbers of these sub-Saharan black Africans. The various tribes in eastern Libya are fanatical Islamic racists and wish to rid Libya of blacks, almost genocidal in nature. Ghadafi ran a secular state and alowed the black workers into Libya.

This is an ugly civil war...and I have my doubts that a "democracy" will emerge in Libya. Egypt has failed in that respect also....

Ghadaffi has always used African mercenaries as part of his protection circle, he's never trusted his own military.

And even during the Arab spring, he was sending private jets to pick up more mercenaries on a daily basis.

[mikey_the_redneck]

Originally Posted by burn_this_city

Egypt hasnt failed at anything, they are still going to have elections this year. I personally believe if the military doesnt like the outcome, ie the Salafists win, they will coup much like the Turkish military has done numerous times.

Any Egypt election will contain multiple Muslim Brotherhood candidates for them to chose from. Yay democracy!

[mikey_the_redneck]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

Ghadaffi has always used African mercenaries as part of his protection circle, he's never trusted his own military.

And even during the Arab spring, he was sending private jets to pick up more mercenaries on a daily basis.

How many more excuses are you going to make for the NATO backed rebels?
This is a nasty civil war going on. The articles I linked said that the rebels are not making any distinction between mercenaries and migrant workers. There are hundreds of thousands of them, obviously not all fighters. There are racist undertones at work here.

[burn_this_city]

Originally Posted by mikey_the_redneck

Any Egypt election will contain multiple Muslim Brotherhood candidates for them to chose from. Yay democracy!

Is democracy only good when we get the outcome we prefer? The MB is fairly beneign compared to other groups like the Salafists.

[blankall]

Originally Posted by mikey_the_redneck

There are hundreds of thousands of migrant black workers in Libya. One source said that near 1/3 of the population is black. Very few of these people are actually fighting for Ghadafi. Amnesty International and other groups have said that most of these people are foreign workers being pulled form their homes, and beaten, killed, or imprisoned.

The rebels are using the "mercenary" excuse to murder and detain large numbers of these sub-Saharan black Africans. The various tribes in eastern Libya are fanatical Islamic racists and wish to rid Libya of blacks, almost genocidal in nature. Ghadafi ran a secular state and alowed the black workers into Libya.

This is an ugly civil war...and I have my doubts that a "democracy" will emerge in Libya. Egypt has failed in that respect also....

I don't disagree. However, the use of African mercenaries is also well documented. I was merely pointing out the picture you provided could be showing either mercenaries or migrant workers.