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Old 05-03-2012, 01:33 PM   #41
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Still can't get over this video, gives me goosebumps every time.

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Cheese, He's been using a voice track that he's been singing too for years now... (so you still hear him sing along with the track mixed in) Sad, I wish he would have more confidence in the singing range he has.

Hopefully David never goes this route, living on his past accomplishments
RE: specific to the bolded

Roger Waters has always been a ####ty singer (hyperbole alert!!). To be more specific and less sensationalist, Waters is an ok singer but is in no position to be a full time lead singer. There is a reason why he was the main creative force behind PF but not always the main vocalist.

David can sing and play guitar but he's a ####ty song writer.

Gilmour and Waters really were made for each other, except of course for the fact they don't get along.

One of my fave PF albums is The Final Cut which is basically a Waters solo album, but it is very heavy on message and lyrics but less focused musically.

On the other hand The Division Bell, which is basically a Gilmour solo, is heavy on guitar solos and sound effects and light on depth and in the lyrical department.


Oh and the Wall isn't that great. I love the message, the movie, the legacy but in terms of PF albums I'd go DSOTM, Animals, Meddle, The Final Cut, then the Wall then Obscured by Clouds.

The Wall is way too long and has too much filler. Not the best PF work. What makes The Wall so great is the themes it portrays. Alienation, anger, depression, fame, the album art, the presentation etc.

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RE: specific to the bolded

Roger Waters has always been a ####ty singer (hyperbole alert!!). To be more specific and less sensationalist, Waters is an ok singer but is in no position to be a full time lead singer. There is a reason why he was the main creative force behind PF but not always the main vocalist.

David can sing and play guitar but he's a ####ty song writer.

Gilmour and Waters really were made for each other, except of course for the fact they don't get along.

One of my fave PF albums is The Final Cut which is basically a Waters solo album, but it is very heavy on message and lyrics but less focused musically.

On the other hand The Division Bell, which is basically a Gilmour solo, is heavy on guitar solos and sound effects and light on depth and in the lyrical department.
Once again where I wish Roger had more confidence about his singing ability. I would also say that David is a much greater lyricist then he gives himself credit for. Check out the lyrics and they can stand side by side with any song. High Hopes and One Slip is far from ####ty
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Once again where I wish Roger had more confidence about his singing ability. I would also say that David is a much greater lyricist then he gives himself credit for. Check out the lyrics and they can stand side by side with any song. High Hopes and One Slip is far from ####ty
That's where I disagree. It isn't about Waters confidence, it is about his ability. He can write (albeit often longwinded) but he's not very good at singing.

You may think Waters is an amazing singer and Gilmour is an amazing lyricist, but I 100% disagree. Waters can write lyrics and music but he's often heavy handed and doesn't have a great voice.

Gilmour has no creativity, the way Waters does, and can write one hell of a guitar solo but couldn't write meaningful lyrics to save his life (for proof see Momentary Lapse of Reason and Division Bell).
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David Gilmour has written some outstanding lyrics.

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I agree. Gilmour has some great lyrics. Division Bell is a fanstatic album in my opinion.
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RE: specific to the bolded

Roger Waters has always been a ####ty singer (hyperbole alert!!). To be more specific and less sensationalist, Waters is an ok singer but is in no position to be a full time lead singer. There is a reason why he was the main creative force behind PF but not always the main vocalist.

David can sing and play guitar but he's a ####ty song writer.

Gilmour and Waters really were made for each other, except of course for the fact they don't get along.

One of my fave PF albums is The Final Cut which is basically a Waters solo album, but it is very heavy on message and lyrics but less focused musically.

On the other hand The Division Bell, which is basically a Gilmour solo, is heavy on guitar solos and sound effects and light on depth and in the lyrical department.


Oh and the Wall isn't that great. I love the message, the movie, the legacy but in terms of PF albums I'd go DSOTM, Animals, Meddle, The Final Cut, then the Wall then Obscured by Clouds.

The Wall is way too long and has too much filler. Not the best PF work. What makes The Wall so great is the themes it portrays. Alienation, anger, depression, fame, the album art, the presentation etc.

No Wish you were Here in that list? great album
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No Wish you were Here in that list? great album
I knew I was missing one. Before Meddle but after Animals. Or maybe tied with Animals.
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Thought you might enjoy this Cheese

Footage just released today of the behind the scenes of Dave fulfilling his promise
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Thanks for posting all these vids. I'm a huge PF fan, but it's been a while since I sat down and enjoyed their music. I love Gilmour, and I love Division Bell. I thought a lot of those songs had some very compelling lyrics in addition to some incredible guitar.

You've got to appreciate their live work, too. There is one rendition of Comfortably Numb that is just mind blowing.
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Coming back to the Life on the Division Bell is my favorite Pink Floyd track. Gilmour's lyrics are pretty generic and not exactly poetry but it's a beautifully put together song and one of the first guitar solos I taught myself.
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Was at the Monday show, and am still seeing images in my mind and still hearing the music. You know it's a great concert when that happens!

The staging and the production of the show are pretty well known, and havn't changed much over the years (as far as I know), so I won't bother describing them. Words would fail me anyhow. You can Youtube it, but it won't do it justice. Suffice it to say that it was pretty damn impressive. The technology with which they project the images on the wall is phenomenal. Absolutely seamless. Very powerful images, as well, partly drawn from the original movie, but also partly based on war footage and the like. Spellbinding.

The requisite dive-bombing planes, a 40 foot tall schoolmaster marionette, and a flying pig. What more can you ask for?

Roger sounded pretty decent, and handled most of his own vocals. He has a tendency now to do the old man dance, but he still rocked "In the Flesh!" He seems to have a genuine love for what he does. He even mentioned to the crowd that he's not the f***ed up little Roger that he was when he wrote the album. The crowd gave him a three minute standing ovation. Snowy White did a very decent Gilmour impersonation, the whole band was excellent.

It's been said before, but I'll +1 it. If you get the chance, go. A very powerful experience. The music has stood the test of time, and although the political dimension of the Wall metaphor is now emphasized more than Pink's personal story, it is still a story anyone can relate to, with many many different angles.

Plus, it is not often you get to be part of a frenzied mob of 12,000+ shouting out slogans, incited by some guy wearing a black trench coat, jackboots and a red armband, screaming into a megaphone. That might normally get you onto a few government watch lists...

TEAR DOWN THE WALL!

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Footage just released today of the behind the scenes of Dave fulfilling his promise
They like each other they like each other!
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Was at the Monday show, and am still seeing images in my mind and still hearing the music. You know it's a great concert when that happens!

The staging and the production of the show are pretty well known, and havn't changed much over the years (as far as I know), so I won't bother describing them. Words would fail me anyhow. You can Youtube it, but it won't do it justice. Suffice it to say that it was pretty damn impressive. The technology with which they project the images on the wall is phenomenal. Absolutely seamless. Very powerful images, as well, partly drawn from the original movie, but also partly based on war footage and the like. Spellbinding.

The requisite dive-bombing planes, a 40 foot tall schoolmaster marionette, and a flying pig. What more can you ask for?

Roger sounded pretty decent, and handled most of his own vocals. He has a tendency now to do the old man dance, but he still rocked "In the Flesh!" He seems to have a genuine love for what he does. He even mentioned to the crowd that he's not the f***ed up little Roger that he was when he wrote the album. The crowd gave him a three minute standing ovation. Snowy White did a very decent Gilmour impersonation, the whole band was excellent.

It's been said before, but I'll +1 it. If you get the chance, go. A very powerful experience. The music has stood the test of time, and although the political dimension of the Wall metaphor is now emphasized more than Pink's personal story, it is still a story anyone can relate to, with many many different angles.

Plus, it is not often you get to be part of a frenzied mob of 12,000+ shouting out slogans, incited by some guy wearing a black trench coat, jackboots and a red armband, screaming into a megaphone. That might normally get you onto a few government watch lists...

TEAR DOWN THE WALL!
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On a related note, channel 27 (iirc) on SiriusXM is now the Pink Floyd channel. All Pink, all the time!
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Outstanding!! Im kicking myself for missing this...
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On a related note, channel 27 (iirc) on SiriusXM is now the Pink Floyd channel. All Pink, all the time!
That was a limited time preview last weekend

I think they won't be doing that until summertime
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