don't you remember the Obama rallies from before the election? all the anti-Bush protests? the extremists are pretty quiet when it's their side in power, did anyone even know who Glen Beck was when Bush was still in office?
Yeah he was on CNN and he and O'rielly/Hannity were saying that anybody who protests against their goverment was unamerican.
Having a tax rate that is 22nd lowest out of all industrialised nations=socialism
36% tax rate on the wealthiest 2% =capitalism
39% tax rate on the wealthiest 2% =socialism
Beck has asked for no signs to be at the event. It is not tough to figure out why.
Martin Luther King Jr. Day is a United States Federal holiday marking the birthday of Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.. It is observed on the third Monday of January each year, which is around the time of King's birthday, January 15. King was the chief spokesman for nonviolent activism in the civil rights movement, which successfully protested racial discrimination in federal and state law. He was assassinated in 1968.
What are the hours of the Rally?
Official hours are 10 a.m. – 1 p.m. on Saturday, August 28, 2010.
I must have missed something, how is August 28, 2010 the same as It is observed on the third Monday of January each year, which is around the time of King's birthday, January 15
I was never really a whizbang at math but the difference in dates seems close to 5 months
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Yeah he was on CNN and he and O'rielly/Hannity were saying that anybody who protests against their goverment was unamerican.
Having a tax rate that is 22nd lowest out of all industrialised nations=socialism
36% tax rate on the wealthiest 2% =capitalism
39% tax rate on the wealthiest 2% =socialism
Beck has asked for no signs to be at the event. It is not tough to figure out why.
Uhhh, its been pointed out many times before that the tax rates in the US are screwed up, considering the top earners pay less than they should be.
I believe IFF pointed out a while back than even the middle class in the US pays more taxes than the middle class in Canada.
To me, taxes, even as complex as the system usually is, the result should still be quite simple. Everyone pays roughly the same percentage of taxes, period. No cheating the system, no being able to hire a team of accountants for a million bucks so you can get around paying as much as you should.
The Social Security plan is the same way. Once you start making more than a certain amount, which I believe is either $150,000, or $250,000, the percentage that you have to pay in, which I believe is 7% in the US, goes down. Just mind-boggling why.
Stuff like that needs to be fixed, but you are right that the majority of the people don't understand it, therefore they'll just scream socialism, communism or whatever else because the US loves it rhetoric these days.
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Uhhh, its been pointed out many times before that the tax rates in the US are screwed up, considering the top earners pay less than they should be.
I believe IFF pointed out a while back than even the middle class in the US pays more taxes than the middle class in Canada.
To me, taxes, even as complex as the system usually is, the result should still be quite simple. Everyone pays roughly the same percentage of taxes, period. No cheating the system, no being able to hire a team of accountants for a million bucks so you can get around paying as much as you should.
The Social Security plan is the same way. Once you start making more than a certain amount, which I believe is either $150,000, or $250,000, the percentage that you have to pay in, which I believe is 7% in the US, goes down. Just mind-boggling why.
Stuff like that needs to be fixed, but you are right that the majority of the people don't understand it, therefore they'll just scream socialism, communism or whatever else because the US loves it rhetoric these days.
I can't remember the exact dollar figure at which the threshold kicks in, but basically you only have social security withdrawn from checks until you hit that mark. As a Canadian I never have social security withdrawn, but co-workers are looking forward to the checks without that deduction that should be coming soon.
Its not against MLK, if anything its helping to celebrate all of Americas history including MLK (I must have missed the link that confirmed that not all donations go 100% to the charity). This evil event which has the ultra secret agenda of ... funding college for children of those who were killed in service .. oh my, what a terrible thing to support, the audacity of some people.
I realize some people in the world despise everything conservative and think we all want the army, with guns, on the street, in the cities, and that we all have some over arching secret agenda but not all of us are members of the jonathan stuart leibowitz bj corps.
I don't think you have a secret agenda, but Glenn Beck is a different story. The problem I have with the conservative movement in the US is that their social policies are outdated and create division. I am not talking about welfare, health care, etc... It's things like gay marriage. It's coming. The younger generation who will control elections in 20 years don't care if people are gay. It's the same with the military policy. You talk to the older generation of the military and they don't want don't ask don't tell revoked, but you talk to the young soldiers who are doing most of the fighting and they will tell you they have served with someone who is gay and it didn't matter to them. Same thing goes for abortion. I am anti-abortion, but don't thing the gov't should legislate against it because it is too much of a grey area. If conservatives just stuck to the ideals of fiscal responsibility and small government I would vote for them more often. Unfortunately, they want to give a group of people less rights than the rest of us, and make big deals out of things like the community center at ground zero and I am not going to vote for someone who espouses those views. I feel that equality is more important than the economy. I also feel that conservatives are going to look back from 5-10 years from now and feel ashamed about how they were anti-gay marriage and making a hub bub about the "mosque" at ground zero just like they feel when they look back at the Civil rights movement last century.
I live in DC, so I will get to enjoy these idiots first hand - ugghhh. But hey, it is always fun to take a short vacation to Stupidland every once and a while.
I can't remember the exact dollar figure at which the threshold kicks in, but basically you only have social security withdrawn from checks until you hit that mark. As a Canadian I never have social security withdrawn, but co-workers are looking forward to the checks without that deduction that should be coming soon.
Just found the threshold, $106,800.
So you're saying that your co-workers are making more than the $106,000, and they get exempted from contributing into Social Security, and yet they're still going to get SS money?
Uhhh, its been pointed out many times before that the tax rates in the US are screwed up, considering the top earners pay less than they should be.
I believe IFF pointed out a while back than even the middle class in the US pays more taxes than the middle class in Canada.
To me, taxes, even as complex as the system usually is, the result should still be quite simple. Everyone pays roughly the same percentage of taxes, period. No cheating the system, no being able to hire a team of accountants for a million bucks so you can get around paying as much as you should.
The Social Security plan is the same way. Once you start making more than a certain amount, which I believe is either $150,000, or $250,000, the percentage that you have to pay in, which I believe is 7% in the US, goes down. Just mind-boggling why.
Stuff like that needs to be fixed, but you are right that the majority of the people don't understand it, therefore they'll just scream socialism, communism or whatever else because the US loves it rhetoric these days.
Uuhh yeah it is screwed up.
It is pretty sad when the secretary of a CEO pays a higher percentage of their income in taxes than the CEO due to tax breaks/shelters and such.
So you're saying that your co-workers are making more than the $106,000, and they get exempted from contributing into Social Security, and yet they're still going to get SS money?
I think it's something like this:
You pay into SS up until a set limit of $X per year. The only possible way to hit that limit is making over $106,000. So if you're in that bracket after say paycheck #21 of the year (assuming 26 pay periods per year) you've hit your magic X dollar contribution limit, the rest of your checks won't have any more SS deductions.
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I don't think you have a secret agenda, but Glenn Beck is a different story. The problem I have with the conservative movement in the US is that their social policies are outdated and create division. I am not talking about welfare, health care, etc... It's things like gay marriage. It's coming. The younger generation who will control elections in 20 years don't care if people are gay. It's the same with the military policy. You talk to the older generation of the military and they don't want don't ask don't tell revoked, but you talk to the young soldiers who are doing most of the fighting and they will tell you they have served with someone who is gay and it didn't matter to them. Same thing goes for abortion. I am anti-abortion, but don't thing the gov't should legislate against it because it is too much of a grey area. If conservatives just stuck to the ideals of fiscal responsibility and small government I would vote for them more often. Unfortunately, they want to give a group of people less rights than the rest of us, and make big deals out of things like the community center at ground zero and I am not going to vote for someone who espouses those views. I feel that equality is more important than the economy. I also feel that conservatives are going to look back from 5-10 years from now and feel ashamed about how they were anti-gay marriage and making a hub bub about the "mosque" at ground zero just like they feel when they look back at the Civil rights movement last century.
It is a real shame as they are playing to their base only. I would have voted for John Mccain in 2000 but not the John Mccain that is running now.
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So you're saying that your co-workers are making more than the $106,000, and they get exempted from contributing into Social Security, and yet they're still going to get SS money?
Yep, although whether or not they collect SS funds in the future is an unknown.
this one here is great. He talks about how Canadians have a lottery for health care. The end is the best though when he is screaming like a little girl. It's actually from his radio program so there is not video here.
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It seems to be that socialist/capitalism hybrid is the way to go for lack of a better description "distributing the wealth" seems to work.
It appears to seem so much more difficult to move up a class in america. Example: dad sweeps floors all his life for his kid to afford college, dad has an early health issue and all those savings are gone, children do not go to college and the advance of that family stalls for another generation. This doesn't take into account that the child is probably not able to go to a decent school that could prepare it for college,which is another issue altogether.
I guess it is more like a rising tide lifts all boats.
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