08-04-2010, 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Hemi-Cuda
the way i see it, this planet is way too overpopulated as it is. with 6.6 Billion people already on Earth, i don't see how preventing one more unwanted human from joining the masses is a big deal
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Can you morally apply that to any human you dont like?
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08-04-2010, 04:06 PM
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#42
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Originally Posted by alltherage
Can you morally apply that to any human you dont like?
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No, just to ones he doesn't know.
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08-04-2010, 04:08 PM
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#43
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Originally Posted by peter12
No, just to ones he doesn't know.
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Uncalled for.
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08-04-2010, 04:10 PM
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#45
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Originally Posted by HeartsOfFire
Uncalled for.
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No, I think thats a valid point. Counter it if it's uncalled for! 
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08-04-2010, 04:11 PM
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#46
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Originally Posted by HeartsOfFire
Uncalled for.
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Completely called for. Statements like that assume certain moral and political tenets.
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08-04-2010, 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by alltherage
No, I think thats a valid point. Counter it if it's uncalled for! |
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Originally Posted by alltherage
Can you morally apply that to any human you dont like?
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This is a valid question because it is just that, a question.
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Originally Posted by peter12
No, just to ones he doesn't know.
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This statement it makes an implication. It's putting words in Hemi-Cuda's mouth. Words of a damning nature intended to damage his character. THAT is why it's uncalled for.
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Originally Posted by peter12
Completely called for. Statements like that assume certain moral and political tenets.
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Assumptions ≠ fact. Uncalled for.
Last edited by HeartsOfFire; 08-04-2010 at 04:18 PM.
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08-04-2010, 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by alltherage
No, I think thats a valid point. Counter it if it's uncalled for! |
how can you morally justify forcing a woman to bring a child into this world (if you had your way and abortion was abolished) that she does not want, when our resources are already strained and millions of children die of starvation every year?
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08-04-2010, 04:19 PM
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#49
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Missed the bus
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Originally Posted by Gozer
I like where this thread is going
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08-04-2010, 04:19 PM
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Had an idea!
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Originally Posted by mykalberta
IMHO all this timeline abortion stuff is complete b/s.
4 months, 5 months, 6 months, 7 months, 8 months, 8.5 months. The child is not alive until it has breathed on its own. Its not alive inside the mothers womb.
If you allow it, then the timeline shouldnt matter imo, its an all in all out issue imo - there is no convenient middleground for fence-sitters.
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8 months? 8.5 months? How many premature babies survive when they're that age?
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08-04-2010, 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Azure
8 months? 8.5 months? How many premature babies survive when they're that age?
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i think the better question would be how many would survive with no medical assistance
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08-04-2010, 04:21 PM
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Had an idea!
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Originally Posted by HeartsOfFire
Uncalled for.
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It was in fact well-deserved.
Especially to someone who wants to do population control through abortion.
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08-04-2010, 04:22 PM
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Had an idea!
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Originally Posted by Hemi-Cuda
the way i see it, this planet is way too overpopulated as it is. with 6.6 Billion people already on Earth, i don't see how preventing one more unwanted human from joining the masses is a big deal
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So you agree with the death penalty for repeat offenders?
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08-04-2010, 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Hemi-Cuda
how can you morally justify forcing a woman to bring a child into this world (if you had your way and abortion was abolished) that she does not want, when our resources are already strained and millions of children die of starvation every year?
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Forcing a woman to give birth? Not at all, the person who "forced" her is either herself for being irresponsible by having sex with no intention of pro-creating, and no respect for the possible consequences, or the man who raped her.
I'm not forcing anything.
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08-04-2010, 04:23 PM
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Had an idea!
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Originally Posted by Hemi-Cuda
i think the better question would be how many would survive with no medical assistance
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What percentage of the population needs medical assistance in order to survive?
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08-04-2010, 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by HeartsOfFire
This is a valid question because it is just that, a question.
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You lost me on this one.
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This statement it makes an implication. It's putting words in Hemi-Cuda's mouth. Words of a damning nature intended to damage his character. THAT is why it's uncalled for.
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No, it challenges the consistency of his stance. He's saying an unwanted baby is not needed and inconvenient. So are lots of people. In fact... I'd wager so are almost everyone you dont know.
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Assumptions ≠ fact. Uncalled for.
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Nobody stated that any assumptions were fact there. 
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08-04-2010, 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Azure
So you agree with the death penalty for repeat offenders?
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sure, if you can prove 100% that they are guilty. the only problem i have with the death penalty in the states right now is that there are many cases of death row inmates being found innocent with new forensic procedures. but if someone is guilty of 1st degree murder, rape, or child molestation with no doubt, definitely stick a needle in them and be done
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08-04-2010, 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Azure
What percentage of the population needs medical assistance in order to survive?
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Lots. KILL THEM ALL. Seriously, there is no way to reason with nihilists.
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08-04-2010, 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Azure
What percentage of the population needs medical assistance in order to survive?
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Or even better, how do you define medical assistance? Ongoing? Is surgery for a ruptured appendix "medical assitance?"
How about people with oxygen tanks? Or severe allergies to common things like peanuts? If they require assistance, should they be considered an inconvenient liability?
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08-04-2010, 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Hemi-Cuda
sure, if you can prove 100% that they are guilty. the only problem i have with the death penalty in the states right now is that there are many cases of death row inmates being found innocent with new forensic procedures. but if someone is guilty of 1st degree murder, rape, or child molestation with no doubt, definitely stick a needle in them and be done
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And an unborn child is guilty of.....???
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