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Old 03-07-2010, 10:51 PM   #41
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Sydney AUS. Love that city with a passion. I've been enough places to know "home" when you get there. As far as the culture thing in NZ 4x4, you will experiance it within seconds of landing on the green islands. and furthermore Ivercargill is a hole

Are you canadian? I always love to mock canadians that think that our country lacks "culture". I've met enough people in enough places that I'm very self assured about Canada's culture. Seems to me that it's mostly snobby Canadians that have traveled to a couple other countries and ate some bug on a stick that suddenly think that Canada (or Calgary) lacks "culture".
It's just annoys me. It's like someone trying to tell me that hockey sucks because they saw a Broadway show. Have fun with your culture. Maybe when you grow up you'll realize that every place has it's local flavours and favorites. In Canada, we do what we do. The novelty may have worn off for 20-something white boy Canadians after jumping a pond, but it certainly doesn't diminish Canada's uniqueness and "culture".

Not necessarily directed at you, surferguy.
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Denver sucks dude. I can vouch for that.
Every time I have been there I have had a really good time, I haven't been for a few years but I can only remember good things.
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I always love to mock canadians that think that our country lacks "culture".
All Commonwealth / pasty whiteguy countries are pretty much the same in a cultural sense. If people think that they're very different, it's because they've never been anywhere that's actually very different. The biggest thing that makes pasty whiteguy countries bearable is the immigrants bringing in decent food and exotic hotties.
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I currently have been looking at Phoenix as a great place to live with cheap housing and swimming pools etc etc

Anyone live or ever been there that could advise me
I bought a place down in Phoenix area (Goodyear) last fall. I love it down there. I'm heading down again on March 18th, for a month (I can do that because I'm self employed and can do all my work on the computer and over the internet). I was there for a couple of weeks over Christmas, and most days it was warm enough to be in shorts and a T shirt.

The nice thing about Phoenix (or pretty much anywhere in Arizona), is that you are close to a lot of nice places. If you are into Vegas, it's a 5 hour drive away. San Diego and LA aren't very far away either. Lots of tourist type things to see - ie - Grand Canyon, etc.

As far as the Coyotes playing in Glendale, it's not that far from where my place is, so that's a plus for me. Also, spring training is on right now, in Goodyear, so there's a lot of cheap baseball games going on, just minutes from my place.

Anyway, the prices are great down there. Up here, you barely can get a lot for what you'd pay for a house down there (and for that price, you can get a really nice house less than 10 years old). Unlike having a recreational place anywhere here in Canada, you can use the place all year around (although, you probably wouldn't want to spend too much time there during the summer). Anyway, I would highly recommend one of the suburbs around Phoenix if you are looking for a place to spend time in the winter.
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Are you canadian? I always love to mock canadians that think that our country lacks "culture". I've met enough people in enough places that I'm very self assured about Canada's culture. Seems to me that it's mostly snobby Canadians that have traveled to a couple other countries and ate some bug on a stick that suddenly think that Canada (or Calgary) lacks "culture".
It's just annoys me. It's like someone trying to tell me that hockey sucks because they saw a Broadway show. Have fun with your culture. Maybe when you grow up you'll realize that every place has it's local flavours and favorites. In Canada, we do what we do. The novelty may have worn off for 20-something white boy Canadians after jumping a pond, but it certainly doesn't diminish Canada's uniqueness and "culture".

Not necessarily directed at you, surferguy.
Nope 4x4 completly taken the wrong way... I agree Canada is super rich in culture, in fact the two years I have spent abroad (AUS and NZ) were very eye opening to me as far as reflecting back to Canada and how much culture we have here. (Completely re-affirmed during the buble closing cermony number)

What I was stating in my last post was that once you visit and arrive in NZ you will be greeted with Kiwi and Maori culture instantanously. It is everywhere, much more prevalent than other countries. I found it similar to west coast natives and how they are celebrated in BC.

And yes I am from Canada
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Nope 4x4 completly taken the wrong way... I agree Canada is super rich in culture, in fact the two years I have spent abroad (AUS and NZ) were very eye opening to me as far as reflecting back to Canada and how much culture we have here. (Completely re-affirmed during the buble closing cermony number)

What I was stating in my last post was that once you visit and arrive in NZ you will be greeted with Kiwi and Maori culture instantanously. It is everywhere, much more prevalent than other countries. I found it similar to west coast natives and how they are celebrated in BC.

And yes I am from Canada
Aye. So the NZ version of being white hatted?

I met a dude in europe that was (is) from Christ Church. We became fast friends (if only for a few days) over how similar we were. Tales of camping and fishing and 4x4ing and so on, were the topic of conversation for many a pint.
I guess I just take exception to anyone that isn't from Paris telling me that my home turf lacks culture. Having never been down under, I can really only speculate. But I have decided that it's much like Canada, only with bigger spiders.
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Aussies and Kiwis are similar at first glance, much like a Canadian and American are similar. They both have their quirks as we do, which makes the travel and extended stays fun as you learn more and more about the place you are in. After living in NZ last year and AUS in 2003 my choice is AUS based on my personal wants in life.

And yes NZ is very similar to Canada, just squeezed into two small islands and two even smaller islands. It is just about 25 years behind.
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Why is it that the best places to live are rarely the best places to work?

(Sydney AUS is close, but damn you're far from everyone else)
I liked Sydney when I was there (just for one night!) but most of the Aussies I met down under seemed to think it's a better place to visit than to live in. Brisbane's got a good rep as a place to live, but I didn't see it when I was travelling.

NZ IMO is very similar to BC. It was great when I was there (although I still prefered Australia - could be because of who I was travelling with) and I haven't seen its winter, and likewise I haven't seen Australia's summer.
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Aussies and Kiwis are similar at first glance, much like a Canadian and American are similar.
I've actually thought that Kiwis and Canadians are very similar, and Aussies and Yanks. Interesting to see what your take is. Kinda reinforces to me that we're all pretty similar.
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I've actually thought that Kiwis and Canadians are very similar, and Aussies and Yanks. Interesting to see what your take is. Kinda reinforces to me that we're all pretty similar.

I actually agree very much so with this statement. What I was saying in my last post was that at first glance N. American are similar and Austral Asians are similar, yet when you pull back the covers true colors start to shine.

I found NZ values very similar to Canadians and Aussies seem to have that brash arrogance we find in the Yanks. That said the Aussies would lynch anybody for comparing them to the "seppos"

Anyway - we are all similar in the "western world" but when you dig deeper the seperations become kilometers apart.

For me Calgary doesn't have enough ocean... I like the ocean
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I've actually thought that Kiwis and Canadians are very similar, and Aussies and Yanks. Interesting to see what your take is. Kinda reinforces to me that we're all pretty similar.
I've heard that analogy before as well. It seems about right. More in the NZ is to Australia what Canada is to the US form though.
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I bought a place down in Phoenix area (Goodyear) last fall. I love it down there. I'm heading down again on March 18th, for a month (I can do that because I'm self employed and can do all my work on the computer and over the internet). I was there for a couple of weeks over Christmas, and most days it was warm enough to be in shorts and a T shirt.

The nice thing about Phoenix (or pretty much anywhere in Arizona), is that you are close to a lot of nice places. If you are into Vegas, it's a 5 hour drive away. San Diego and LA aren't very far away either. Lots of tourist type things to see - ie - Grand Canyon, etc.

As far as the Coyotes playing in Glendale, it's not that far from where my place is, so that's a plus for me. Also, spring training is on right now, in Goodyear, so there's a lot of cheap baseball games going on, just minutes from my place.

Anyway, the prices are great down there. Up here, you barely can get a lot for what you'd pay for a house down there (and for that price, you can get a really nice house less than 10 years old). Unlike having a recreational place anywhere here in Canada, you can use the place all year around (although, you probably wouldn't want to spend too much time there during the summer). Anyway, I would highly recommend one of the suburbs around Phoenix if you are looking for a place to spend time in the winter.
Ditto.. plus for a guy saving to buy a house. This place will be heaven!! Luckily I have a U.S. passport.. otherwise i'd be stuck overspending and freezing my ass off in Canada.
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Don't know about a dream place, but would like to go back to Dubai for a visit. Actually, I don't know, it's humid there and you can barely breathe... ah whatever I would like to go there with my boyfriend anyways.

Other places I would like to visit:

Paris
Greece
Switzerland (some city there, maybe Zurich)
New Zealand
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and the list goes on..

as for in Canada, would like to visit PEI, Nova Scotia and BC.. oh yes Calgary
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I'd love to move back to New Orleans.

Close to Gulf Coast beaches, warm weather (muggy, but warm nonetheless), great people, great culture, and some of the best food in the world.
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I'd love to move back to New Orleans.

Close to Gulf Coast beaches, warm weather (muggy, but warm nonetheless), great people, great culture, and some of the best food in the world.

What kind of food?
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Are you canadian? I always love to mock canadians that think that our country lacks "culture". I've met enough people in enough places that I'm very self assured about Canada's culture. Seems to me that it's mostly snobby Canadians that have traveled to a couple other countries and ate some bug on a stick that suddenly think that Canada (or Calgary) lacks "culture".
It's just annoys me. It's like someone trying to tell me that hockey sucks because they saw a Broadway show. Have fun with your culture. Maybe when you grow up you'll realize that every place has it's local flavours and favorites. In Canada, we do what we do. The novelty may have worn off for 20-something white boy Canadians after jumping a pond, but it certainly doesn't diminish Canada's uniqueness and "culture".

Not necessarily directed at you, surferguy.
I know you're directing that at me dude, and I don't like it. I never said Canada lacked culture in this thread, so I don't know where you're getting that from. Perhaps I should have used the term "street life" or "community sense" when talking about NZ "culture" instead.

I don't think I've ever seen anyone take so much grievance with this word as you. Relax man!
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