Toques during the anthem

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by killer_carlson

All I know from this thread is that there are a bunch of unpatriotic pukes who frequent this site.

Disgusting. Absolutely disgusting.

Oh the humanity!!!!!

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by killer_carlson

again.

Just because something is traditional, it doesn't mean it is a bad thing.

It is and has been a long standing societal practice to remove one's headwear during the anthem as a general sign of respect.

Have you seen what lengths Japan went to over the way one of their atheletes disrespected their uniform? Imagine if he had done something during the raising of their flag?

http://www.japantoday.com/category/s...ver-dress-code

We don't live in Japan though, we live in Canada and removing your hat during an anthem is not a law. For the record I do remove mine but only because people make such a big stink over it and I can't be bothered to deal with them. It has nothing to do with respect because I don't need to remove an article of clothing to show I respect my country.

[HOOT]

Originally Posted by killer_carlson

All I know from this thread is that there are a bunch of unpatriotic pukes who frequent this site.

Disgusting. Absolutely disgusting.

Because some people think having left a toque isn't a big deal makes them unpatriotic?

Talk about dramatic!

[amorak]

I am with Killer_Carlson. It's a longstanding tradition and by NOT removing your hat you are showing that you do NOT respect the anthem being played.

Now, on the other hand, I am sure these athletes are so overcome that it's simply an oversight.

I say its embarrassing when the athlete does it - but understandable - given the emotion they are feeling. I'll even buy into the 'uniform' explanation given earlier.

But when I see someone at say, the Dome with their hat on, I'll yell at them to take it off. Of the one or two times I've done it, everyone around has voiced their agreement. It is common knowledge that to not do so is a protest against Canada, and as a proud Canadian, I don't take kindly to that.

As my crotchety old self would say..."Show some respect, whipper snapper!"

[amorak]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

We don't live in Japan though, we live in Canada and removing your hat during an anthem is not a law. For the record I do remove mine but only because people make such a big stink over it and I can't be bothered to deal with them. It has nothing to do with respect because I don't need to remove an article of clothing to show I respect my country.

Actually, yes you do. That's actually the entire point of removing your hat - as a universally-accepted sign of respect.

[JFK]

What's the protocol on toupees?

[HOOT]

Originally Posted by amorak

Actually, yes you do. That's actually the entire point of removing your hat - as a universally-accepted sign of respect.

But who makes these rules? If someone told me they love Canada more than me because they would be more incline to remove their hat during an anthem I would laugh in their face.

If I saw someone wearing their hat I wouldn't open my mouth. It is their deal not mine.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by amorak

Actually, yes you do. That's actually the entire point of removing your hat - as a universally-accepted sign of respect.

Fine then, I think it is disrespectful to wear any clothing during the anthem so I expect you to strip naked next time you are at an event. Sound ridiculous? So is the idea of it being disrespectful to wear a hat during the anthem. Somebody did it a long time ago and it caught on, big deal.

[HOOT]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Fine then, I think it is disrespectful to wear any clothing during the anthem so I expect you to strip naked next time you are at an event. Sound ridiculous? So is the idea of it being disrespectful to wear a hat during the anthem. Somebody did it a long time ago and it caught on, big deal.

I've actually heard it has more to due with religion respect compared to country respect. So God can see your face or some crap.

[BlackArcher101]

I had no idea a country/anthem had feelings and suddenly turned emo.

[JFK]

Oh damn! I was wearing a hat while reading this thread. Sorry to everyone who posted in here, I meant no disrespect, honest.

[GreenTeaFrapp]

Originally Posted by JFK

What's the protocol on toupees?

Or merkins?

[Barnes]

From the Federal Government:

http://www.pch.gc.ca/pgm/ceem-cced/s...em-eng.cfm#a10

Playing of anthems at events

There is no specific rule as to when it is appropriate to sing the national anthem at an event. It is up to the organizers to determine if "O Canada" will be sung at the beginning or at the end of a ceremony. If two anthems are to be played at the beginning of an event, "O Canada" should be played first followed by the other one. When anthems are played at the end of an event, "O Canada" should be played last.

Etiquette during the playing of the national anthem

As a matter of respect and tradition, it is proper to stand for the playing of "O Canada" as well as for the anthem of any other nation.

It is traditional for civilian men to take off their hats during the playing of the national anthem. Women as well as children do not remove their hats on such occasions.

There is no law or behaviour governing the playing of the national anthem; it is left to the good citizenship of individuals.

So, not removing your hat and people are up in arms about it but every sporting event plays anthems in the wrong order and nothing. The Flames disrespect the traditions of the anthem every game! ANGER ON THE INTERNET!

Trade Iginla.

Fire Sutter.

Not a big deal. Traditions change. Take a Midol and relax.

[Joborule]

Originally Posted by Barnes

From the Federal Government:

http://www.pch.gc.ca/pgm/ceem-cced/s...em-eng.cfm#a10



So, not removing your hat and people are up in arms about it but every sporting event plays anthems in the wrong order and nothing. The Flames disrespect the traditions of the anthem every game! ANGER ON THE INTERNET!

Trade Iginla.

Fire Sutter.

Not a big deal. Traditions change. Take a Midol and relax.

Bingo. Eff the Flames for being unpatriotic!

Sounds kinda foolish now doesn't? If someone where's there hat it's honestly not that big of a deal. It's not hurting you, it's not hurting anyone else, and it's sure as hell not hurting the song or the nation. The fact you would hit someone over it is over the line.

[Kaine]

I guess I'm just a #$(& but I take the George Carlin approach to standing/saluting/removing head wear when it comes to national anthems.

If you don't know what that means look it up, you won't be disappointed.

I never remove my hat during anthems, I fail to see how that makes me unpatriotic or "rude", if it does in your someones eyes I more than likely don't give a damn what they think

Hard to believe this toque thing matters one way or the other.

[Kaine]

Originally Posted by amorak

Actually, yes you do. That's actually the entire point of removing your hat - as a universally-accepted sign of respect.

Perhaps not everyone agrees with your opinion? I find it equally as offensive that in a "free" country I have to listen to people like you complain about something that doesn't effect them in any way whatsoever. If it was hurting someone than I could see a case for argument, but believe it or not not everyone sees things the same way as you.

I don't remove my hat often, I must be a terrorist. I have several family members in the military of all careers, NONE of them make a stink about this yet on here some people seem to be losing it over this, thought it was an interesting point.

You have every right to think what you want, but you have no right to say say anything rude or attempt to force your ideals on anyone that does something that effects no one just because you disagree.


***Bah thought I hit the edit button rather than the post button, sorry about the second post back to back.

[HOOT]

The Flames hate Canada!!!!

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by killer_carlson

All I know from this thread is that there are a bunch of unpatriotic pukes who frequent this site.

Disgusting. Absolutely disgusting.

Originally Posted by Barnes

If two anthems are to be played at the beginning of an event, "O Canada" should be played first followed by the other one.

Oh CRAP! Look what the Flames are doing Killer_carlson! Are you as equally outraged at this "disrespecting' of the national anthem by those 'unpatriotic pukes' otherwise known as the Calgary Flames organization?

You better be, or else that would be a tad hypocritical.

[BlackArcher101]

I laugh at the notion that a Canadian athlete, who is competing in an international event of high regard, while competing as a Canadian, battled through to get a gold medal. Then she can't wipe the smile from her face and has tears streaming down her cheeks upon hearing the national anthem of our great nation, while standing there with gold medal in hand dressed in Canadian drab.

But yet, she's disrespectful to the nation because she had a freakin hat. Good lord, she was OOOZING national pride and yet one little peice of fabric can apparently make a person think she's disrespecting the nation. Imagine if someone had said that to her while she stood there, she'd be shocked as hell.

Was she a unpatriotic puke? Hell no, but apparently what I described isn't enough to be patriotic for killer_carlson... all because she wore hat.

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by BlackArcher101

I laugh at the notion that a Canadian athlete, who is competing in an international event of high regard, while competing as a Canadian, battled through to get a gold medal. Then she can't wipe the smile from her face and has tears streaming down her cheeks upon hearing the national anthem of our great nation, while standing there with gold medal in hand dressed in Canadian drab.

But yet, she's disrespectful to the nation because she had a freakin hat. Good lord, she was OOOZING national pride and yet one little peice of fabric can apparently make a person think she's disrespecting the nation. Imagine if someone had said that to her while she stood there, she'd be shocked as hell.

Was she a unpatriotic puke? Hell no, but apparently what I described isn't enough to be patriotic for killer_carlson... all because she wore hat.

It's old school thinking, an we all know old people are just weird and stubborn.