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Old 02-18-2010, 03:57 PM   #41
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It is interesting how Family Guy can offend so many, while at the same time have a character in a wheelchair that is all sorts of kicka#%.

You seem pretty cool Ebola, have you ever wished you could form "Cripple-tron" like in the meals on wheels episode?

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Old 02-18-2010, 04:05 PM   #42
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I thought Caribou Barbie said it was ok to say "######" as long it is satire, as demonstrated by Rush Limbaugh.
This is a good point. I guess as long as you have the proper political affiliation it's ok to make jokes.
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I find it highly entertaining that her daughter is cutting the show down. I'd eat my hat if you could prove to me she didn't watch that show every week and laughed her ass off at all the other things going on in the show. It's supposed to be tongue in cheek. It was hilarious. For those offended, that's why it's at 10pm, way past your bedtimes.
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They've been pushing the limits since day 1.
This is, after all, the show with a musical number titled "Prom Night Dumpster Baby." They have to go a ways to shock people these days, and actually I'm surprised this qualifies.
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This is, after all, the show with a musical number titled "Prom Night Dumpster Baby." They have to go a ways to shock people these days, and actually I'm surprised this qualifies.
They've also done holocaust jokes, rape jokes, implied Jesus was gay (with Stewie no less), implied Jesus was a dwarf, implied Jesus was a fraud, had a baby kill his mother, had a baby dress up as Hitler. I could go on for quite a while.
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Old 02-18-2010, 04:33 PM   #46
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It's a garbage show. South Park does satire much better.
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It's a garbage show. South Park does satire much better.

Oh absolutely. I don't think Family Guy is garbage but on the intelligence scale South Park, especially the last 5 or 6 seasons, is one of the smartest shows on TV. And I'm dead serious.

I was at a friend's house not too long ago and his younger brother (like 14) was watching an episode and I questioned his understanding of the real jokes, not just the blood squirting out of the virgin mary's ass. I really think it takes a politically and socially aware viewer to really get all of the satire and comedy and messages in SP.

I'm not saying that it is the greatest show ever but I think Parker and Stone put a lot more meaning into SP than most people give them credit for, possibly even themselves.
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I don't agree with your first premise. Just because Family Guy is an offensive show doesn't mean that every single thing they mention is automatically offensive. I've seen Peter play football on the show but I didin't see the NFL issuing a statement that it was offended that they were mentioned on the show.
If I came across that way it was unintentional, 100% of what family guy does is not offensive to me, and 99% of the time I hear people complain about it as being offensive I think they are wrong


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They've also done holocaust jokes, rape jokes, implied Jesus was gay (with Stewie no less), implied Jesus was a dwarf, implied Jesus was a fraud, had a baby kill his mother, had a baby dress up as Hitler. I could go on for quite a while.
I think that is the difference here though, people get up in arms over jokes about the holocaust or rape etc and I think they are wrong because the joke is about the situation or a type of crime. They are not making it about a specific individual.

which many people find terrible and such, I personally think its just a joke

if there was a high profile rape victim in the news and they made a joke about that person I would think that is crossing the line

but in this case they are making a joke about an individual baby with downs syndrome not just downs syndrome, they were trying to get a laugh because Sarah Palin has a child with downs syndrome. That was the basis of the joke

thats why I think it crossed the line there

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Oh absolutely. I don't think Family Guy is garbage but on the intelligence scale South Park, especially the last 5 or 6 seasons, is one of the smartest shows on TV. And I'm dead serious.

I was at a friend's house not too long ago and his younger brother (like 14) was watching an episode and I questioned his understanding of the real jokes, not just the blood squirting out of the virgin mary's ass. I really think it takes a politically and socially aware viewer to really get all of the satire and comedy and messages in SP.

I'm not saying that it is the greatest show ever but I think Parker and Stone put a lot more meaning into SP than most people give them credit for, possibly even themselves.
Well, the astute viewer is well aware that they go after EVERYONE. There are too many viewers out there that think Parker and Stone are beacons of comedic light for liberal North America.
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I'm fine with people getting offended at things, but complaining on Facebook is pretty lame for a politician to do. I don't understand why people can't get offended in private any more these days... but they always have to let the world know.

I mean, I have been offended by The Family Guy (still one of my favourite shows though), and I didn't feel the urge to tell everyone on the internet.
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Looks like the actress who played the girl with Down syndrome actually has Down syndrome.

http://gawker.com/5475233/family-guy...yline=true&s=i
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Old 02-19-2010, 07:27 AM   #52
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I thought Caribou Barbie said it was ok to say "######" as long it is satire, as demonstrated by Rush Limbaugh.
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Sorry, I don't know what was said on Family Guy.

I'm talking about her craven lack of outrage at Rush using the word "######".
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PALIN: I'm not politically correct. I am not one to be a word police. ...
WALLACE: OK. But Rush Limbaugh weighed in this week. And he said this: "Our politically correct society is acting like some giant insult's taken place by calling a bunch of people who are ######s, ######s. ... I mean, these people, these liberal activists are quote, kooks." Should Rush Limbaugh apologize?

PALIN: They are kooks, so I agree with Rush Limbaugh. Rush Limbaugh was using satire to bring attention to what this politically correct --


WALLACE: But he used the "R" word.


PALIN: Using satire. Name calling by anyone -- I teach this to my children, you teach it to your children and your grandchildren, too. Name calling by anyone, it's just unnecessary. It just wastes time.



WALLACE: But you know what some people are going to say, Governor, and have said. They say, look, when it's her political adversary Rahm Emanuel, she's going to call him out, he's indecent, apologize. But when it's a political friend like Rush Limbaugh, oh it's satire


PALIN: I didn't hear Rush Limbaugh calling a group of people whom he did not agree with "F-ing ######s." And we did know that Rahm Emanuel, it's been reported, did say that. That's a big difference there.
South Park had an episode about the Special Olympics where some kid with Down's was giving Cartman steroids. I don't remember Palin complaining about that episode although she wasn't alluded to in that episode in any way. I'm willing to bet that if Seth McFarlane didn't add that crack about the girl's mom being the former governor of Alaska, Caribou Barbie (love that, btw, troutman) wouldn't have said anything. It's not so much about making fun of someone with Down's Syndrome as it is about making a joke about Palin herself. Satire.

Someone should make a list of stuff that isn't funny or that we're not allowed to make fun of. That way, no one will have to get upset by cartoons ever again.
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Old 02-19-2010, 08:50 AM   #53
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Andrea Fay Friedman, the actress, who also has Down Syndrome, that played the character of Ellen in the episode:

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In my family we think laughing is good. My parents raised me to have a sense of humor and to live a normal life. My mother did not carry me around under her arm like a loaf of French bread the way former Governor Palin carries her son Trig around looking for sympathy and votes.
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I think they did that show so Kara Vallow (animations domination producer) could release this letter to palin:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/kara-v...ml#postComment

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This is, after all, the show with a musical number titled "Prom Night Dumpster Baby." They have to go a ways to shock people these days, and actually I'm surprised this qualifies.
In my list of top 10 things that have made me laugh on tv, this is more than likely #1.

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It's a garbage show. South Park does satire much better.
I believe South Park is a smarter show, but I still probably laugh harder at Family Guy.
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I believe South Park is a smarter show, but I still probably laugh harder at Family Guy.
Yeah, but you want green/orange text to come back for sarcasm.

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Well, the astute viewer is well aware that they go after EVERYONE. There are too many viewers out there that think Parker and Stone are beacons of comedic light for liberal North America.
Not that I care either, way it seems to me over the past few years Seth McFarlene has been trying a little to hard to be that left leaning comedic beacon.
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Yeah, but you want green/orange text to come back for sarcasm.



Not that I care either, way it seems to me over the past few years Seth McFarlene has been trying a little to hard to be that left leaning comedic beacon.
I believe DFF was talking about Stone and Parker from South Park. McFarlane is clearly a liberal.
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Yeah, but you want green/orange text to come back for sarcasm.



Not that I care either, way it seems to me over the past few years Seth McFarlene has been trying a little to hard to be that left leaning comedic beacon.
Thats why Brian has become an unbelievable ###### in this series. He was funnier when he was just a drunk talking dog.

He's become far more annoying then Lisa Simpson who hopefully in the last episode will be tossed off of a bridge wrapped in a carpet bag by Diamond Joe Quimby.
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Yeah, but you want green/orange text to come back for sarcasm.
I do laugh harder at Family Guy! I realize I'm in the minority here but I've found it's gotten better the last few years.

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Thats why Brian has become an unbelievable ###### in this series. He was funnier when he was just a drunk talking dog.

He's become far more annoying then Lisa Simpson who hopefully in the last episode will be tossed off of a bridge wrapped in a carpet bag by Diamond Joe Quimby.
Probably my second favorite family guy moment.

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I believe DFF was talking about Stone and Parker from South Park. McFarlane is clearly a liberal.
Yes he was. I took what he said and agreed with him by saying McFarlene is the liberal ######. not Matt and Trey. They hate everyone equally. I know he was talking about Stone and Parker ffs.
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