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Old 12-23-2009, 11:01 AM   #41
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Not devilsadvocate, he can be a little preachy but he really seems like he walks the walk, which I can respect. I rarely see that. It is fine to do certain things, recycle all that jazz (I do), but don't poo poo someone who does something guzzling when you have a different guzzling habit too.
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Old 12-23-2009, 11:32 AM   #42
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Painting with a wide brush, no?

A very disturbing trend I am finding is that those that ARE trying to do a little something for the environment are constantly being kicked in the groin.

- Unless I'm having friends over, I keep the thermostat at 17 throughout the winter. If I'm cold I put on a sweater.
- All the lights in my house are compact florescents
- I became a vegetarian 20 years ago for purely environmental reasons
- I gave up driving a car in turn for taking public transportation for environmental reasons

First, as many in this thread have pointed out, the math used in this study looks fishy at best. So until I see some corroboration I'm not about to buy this study right off. However, I think it a bigger issue. People want to slam on those who ARE trying to do something by pointing out any type of hypocrites they are.

The underlying theory is that Bob who recycles NOTHING can crap all over Sue who recycles everything except milk cartons. She throws her milk cartons in the garbage because even after cleaning them they smell. However, Bob can lord over her as a stupid evil hypocrite because she doesn't recycle her milk cartons!! Bob feels good about himself by tearing Sue down, Sue feels stupid about trying to do anything at all. Mission accomplished.
What if Sue looks down on Bob for not recycling, but Bob turns down the heat? Sue, on the other hand, likes her house warm so she leaves it on a higher temperature. But Sue thinks she's doing more for the enviornment than Bob becuase she recycles.

That's the problem I have with people who tell me what I should be doing. You recycle, I don't drive SUV's. You have a dog, I leave my heat on higher. Those are the people who are hypocrites IMO.

For the record, I'm not saying this about you Devil's Advocate. From your post, I think you're actually actively doing a lot for the environment and I applaud you for that.
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