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Cliche · 05-12-2009, 11:23 PM

That was definitely an interesting ending, however, it doesn't have the brick throwing impact of "the best of both worlds." It does lead to interesting things they can lead to, but there isn't really a "big Bad" as in other shows.

lambeburger · 05-13-2009, 01:12 AM

Spoilers in white:

I thought the WTC thing at the end was neat, but I kind of saw it coming all episode (not the World Trade Center specifically but I somehow knew that Oilva would travel to the alternate reality with the talk of Bell being there).

What really intrigued me was Walter visting the gravestone of Peter Bishop. And with him saying that he went to the other reality to take back something he lost.

Seems to me that the observer didn't actually help Walter save Peter in the car crash when he was a kid, but rather the observer helps Walter to travel to the reality to take the other Peter into Walter's reality after his Peter died.

Can't wait for next season.

GreenTeaFrapp · 05-13-2009, 05:01 AM

Now that it's aired across the country, I feel comfortable talking about it so......

*****spoilers****

I figured out when Walter was talking about losing something and the alternate world, that he was talking about Peter. I'd forgotten about him visiting the grave with the observer earlier in the episode but based it upon the observer telling Walter something like, "you more then anyone should know that there are two of everything".

It was also kind of neat that the show seemed to be setting up Massive Dynamic as the big bad guy who was behind all the events that, for the moment, seems to be wrong.

Two things about the episode bothered me though.

I thought that Olivia seemed awfully skittish for a seasoned FBI agent. Notice her reactions to the guys shooting at her at the Lake and the car that pulls out on her way to meet Bell.

I also wish that the show hadn't advertised that Nimoy was appearing as Bell. Something like that would have been so much cooler to be blindsided by, instead of waiting for it to happen.

Boblobla · 05-13-2009, 08:45 AM

I have only caught a couple of episodes of this prior to last night but it seems like a pretty kick ass show. A little to sci-fi for the Mrs. but I will definitely have to watch beginning of the season at some point.

troutman · 05-13-2009, 08:58 AM

There were hints earlier in the season that something was wrong with Peter. I always thought it was strange that Peter calls his dad Walter.

Olivia being skittish - could be related to her growing powers of deja vu?

John Noble is fantastic as Walter.

GreenTeaFrapp · 05-13-2009, 09:01 AM

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There were hints earlier in the season that something was wrong with Peter. I always thought it was strange that Peter calls his dad Walter.

On a tv forum I was browsing earlier, someone correctly predicted the Peter twist several weeks back. I guess the clues were there for quite some time but I never picked up on them. I guess I'm used to tv shows dumbing everything down and forgoing subtlety.

And I didn't really find Peter calling Walter by his first name that strange but I have a cousin who does the same thing with both his parents.

octothorp · 05-13-2009, 10:07 AM

Pretty good season finale, though not as much conflict as it really needed. The fact that Nina Sharpe and William Bell are being nice to Olivia and the death of Jones leaves that particular arc without a conflict, and if you had already understood the notion of an alternate reality, the final shot with the WTC isn't really that much a surprise.

But the Peter/Walter relationship is really interesting... is there an alternate reality Walter, and how does he feel about his son being taken from him? How's Peter going to react when he finds out?

I really liked that the first scene with Walter Bell seemed influenced by one of my favorite movie scenes of all time: in Apocalypse Now, you spend so long anticipating Kurtz, and when you finally meet him, he stays in the shadows for a few moments longer, so that you just hear his voice and catch glimpses of his face. Same thing with Bell here, although I wish the whole scene had been a bit longer.

I'm very curious to see how they do the timelines. This alternate reality seems fairly similar to our own, so it had to have diverged fairly recently.

troutman · 05-13-2009, 11:01 AM

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I'm very curious to see how they do the timelines. This alternate reality seems fairly similar to our own, so it had to have diverged fairly recently.

Olivia recently had visions of a reality where familiar buildings were burning etc

Circa89 · 05-13-2009, 01:42 PM

Anyone else have the hots for Anna Torv? She is not particularily attractive but the is something about her that gets me all riled up.

metallicat · 05-13-2009, 02:29 PM

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Anyone else have the hots for Anna Torv? She is not particularily attractive but the is something about her that gets me all riled up.

I am hugely attracted to her.

Cliche · 05-13-2009, 02:36 PM

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Pretty good season finale, though not as much conflict as it really needed. The fact that Nina Sharpe and William Bell are being nice to Olivia and the death of Jones leaves that particular arc without a conflict, and if you had already understood the notion of an alternate reality, the final shot with the WTC isn't really that much a surprise.

But the Peter/Walter relationship is really interesting... is there an alternate reality Walter, and how does he feel about his son being taken from him? How's Peter going to react when he finds out?

I really liked that the first scene with Walter Bell seemed influenced by one of my favorite movie scenes of all time: in Apocalypse Now, you spend so long anticipating Kurtz, and when you finally meet him, he stays in the shadows for a few moments longer, so that you just hear his voice and catch glimpses of his face. Same thing with Bell here, although I wish the whole scene had been a bit longer.

I'm very curious to see how they do the timelines. This alternate reality seems fairly similar to our own, so it had to have diverged fairly recently.

SPOILERS-

Judging by the closeup of the cover of the magazine that they showed, it would seem to indicate that the attack on the whitehouse was successful, whereas the twin towers strike wasn't.

metallicat · 05-13-2009, 03:41 PM

I am not at home, so I can't read any of the white posts, but does this all mean we've been watching an alternate inverse this whole time, one in which Peter is still alive?

I should have known an Abrams show would get all complex on me.

Shazam · 05-13-2009, 04:21 PM

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I should have known an Abrams show would get all complex on me.

"It gets complicated. Let me explain it to you in a 15 minute monologue, replete with hand puppets."

octothorp · 05-13-2009, 04:50 PM

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Olivia recently had visions of a reality where familiar buildings were burning etc

Yeah, I get that there are differences, but I'm curious how far (and how far back) they go; if, for example, Peter was genetically the same in both of them, that means that at the time of his conception, the two worlds must have been almost exactly identical, and yet by the time he was seven, there was a significant-enough divergence that he had different hobbies and interests, and died in one world but lived in the other. It seems to me that the two realities (there might be more, but the narrative seems to focus on two) must have split within the lives of the characters in the story (and perhaps caused by the characters in the story). Will their equivelents in the alternate reality have different jobs, family, and children? I would expect so, but the writers might have different ideas and have two realities that continue to mirror each other closely rather than diverge.