Zeitgeist, 9/11, and Other Conspiracies

[Azure]

Originally Posted by mikey_the_redneck

I have seen Obama Deception.........but really the whole political climate of the U.S. is summarized by Ron Paul's brother at the 58 minute mark of the film.
I found it interesting how most of America's founding fathers like Abraham Lincoln, Andrew Jackson, Thomas Jefferson etc. all have been recorded as warning about the potential for central banks to set up an empire and take control of the politics.
The Bilderberg group fascinates me and Im going to buy a book written by Daniel Estulin - Secrets of the Bilderberg Group to find out more.

All the mainstream media is owned by Bilderberg members and that is concerning. This is why people dont know about what is going on is because you will never see this stuff on Fox News, MSNBC or any other major information source.
People have to be aware of what is going on before any change can be made, and that is a big challenge guys like Alex Jones, Ron Paul, Jim Tucker etc.

I tend to think the founding fathers don't include Abraham Lincoln. In fact Lincoln was the first President that trampled individual states rights in favor of a centralized government.

Did Alex Jones also tell you that the civil war wasn't all about slavery?

[Tower]

Originally Posted by mikey_the_redneck

I have seen Obama Deception.........but really the whole political climate of the U.S. is summarized by Ron Paul's brother at the 58 minute mark of the film.
I found it interesting how most of America's founding fathers like Abraham Lincoln, Andrew Jackson, Thomas Jefferson etc. all have been recorded as warning about the potential for central banks to set up an empire and take control of the politics.
The Bilderberg group fascinates me and Im going to buy a book written by Daniel Estulin - Secrets of the Bilderberg Group to find out more.

All the mainstream media is owned by Bilderberg members and that is concerning. This is why people dont know about what is going on is because you will never see this stuff on Fox News, MSNBC or any other major information source.
People have to be aware of what is going on before any change can be made, and that is a big challenge guys like Alex Jones, Ron Paul, Jim Tucker etc.

Well the other great part is that while Alex Jones, Ron Paul, Jim Tucker fight to make you aware of what is going on. There are others that show you what you can do about it.

Because the countries money is no longer kept under government control and all monetary notes made are not money at all... We don't have to pay back banks. Because they did not give us something of value for our signature. They only gave us promise to pay notes. Every dollar in circulation is not backed by gold in a treasury. It is debt paying debt further perpetuating the debt.

Any one here in tight for foreclosure? Well you won't loose your home if you don't play by their rules. There are simple questions to ask that can free you.

Anyway back to the topic. So these others show you what you can do about the information being delivered by Alex Jones, Ron Paul, Jim Tucker...

http://spiritualeconomicsnow.net/ - read her book on top right.

http://www.tpuc.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=406 David Rideout videos which are poorly shot but contain great stuff. He is way to spiritual for me but people truly helping others is what is great. Lawyers getting paid $250 an hour helps no body but themselves. (And they say the law coded! Ha! That's why we need them!)

Rober Menard is a great guy as well. He has amaizing letters that are sent out to all in public office.

[Tower]

Originally Posted by Azure

Again, while one could make a case for the the things the founding fathers fought for being taken away, especially states right.....Alex Jones is WAY over the top with almost everything.

He takes a small problem and turns it into a huge conspiracy theory.

He very much does. Way too dramatic, but I understand why he does that and I understand why some people can't stand the guy because of it. He is a great tool to help open the brain that something is very wrong here, but that is it...

Also 2 day's ago I was diving west in Calgary and saw 3 trails in the sky very much like contrails however they stopped around the end of the city and started around the beginning of the city.

The odder thing was a plane was traveling at this time whose trail dissipated very quickly unlike the other three. Start looking up. We have an airport and a lot of traffic so if some trails do persists when others don't...
One of these things in not like the other.

[photon]

[Tower]

Originally Posted by photon

No photon... It's mind control spray! And it's sprayed right over your house!

Should I put this in green?

[RougeUnderoos]

Originally Posted by Tower

He very much does. Way too dramatic, but I understand why he does that and I understand why some people can't stand the guy because of it. He is a great tool to help open the brain that something is very wrong here, but that is it...

Also 2 day's ago I was diving west in Calgary and saw 3 trails in the sky very much like contrails however they stopped around the end of the city and started around the beginning of the city.

The odder thing was a plane was traveling at this time whose trail dissipated very quickly unlike the other three. Start looking up. We have an airport and a lot of traffic so if some trails do persists when others don't...
One of these things in not like the other.

So what is it? What are "they" spraying on us? Don't be vague. Tell us what it is.

I can't wake up or start thinking unless I know what chemicals the airlines are spraying me with.

[mikey_the_redneck]

Originally Posted by RougeUnderoos

So what is it? What are "they" spraying on us? Don't be vague. Tell us what it is.

I can't wake up or start thinking unless I know what chemicals the airlines are spraying me with.

I think he's talking about chemtrails.........which are just government experiments to try and reverse the effects of global warming by sparying chemicals in the atmosphere that reflect the suns rays away from earth. There are of course, human health problems that can arise from doing this.
http://www.infowars.com/the-governme...e-environment/
Hopefully it doesnt go foo far.

[photon]

Originally Posted by mikey_the_redneck

I think he's talking about chemtrails.........which are just government experiments to try and reverse the effects of global warming by sparying chemicals in the atmosphere that reflect the suns rays away from earth. There are of course, human health problems that can arise from doing this.
http://www.infowars.com/the-governme...e-environment/
Hopefully it doesnt go foo far.

What chemicals?

Since when have they been doing this?

[FlamingLonghorn]

Originally Posted by mikey_the_redneck

In this one, Obama was said to have attempted to impose a ban on assault weapons, but was later unsuccessful in doing so.
http://www.infowars.com/obama-to-see...t-weapons-ban/

Why did it fail though? If this is really what the people who secretly control the world want, they should be able to get this stuff done with no problem at all, right?

[RougeUnderoos]

Originally Posted by mikey_the_redneck

I think he's talking about chemtrails.........which are just government experiments to try and reverse the effects of global warming by sparying chemicals in the atmosphere that reflect the suns rays away from earth. There are of course, human health problems that can arise from doing this.
http://www.infowars.com/the-governme...e-environment/
Hopefully it doesnt go foo far.

What are the chemicals?

[mikey_the_redneck]

Originally Posted by Azure

I tend to think the founding fathers don't include Abraham Lincoln. In fact Lincoln was the first President that trampled individual states rights in favor of a centralized government.

Did Alex Jones also tell you that the civil war wasn't all about slavery?

Alex Jones is not a racist................and he doesnt bring that up at all in the movie......you're getting a bit off topic there.
Lincoln wanted central government, but he didn't want banks and finance to take control of it, and thus the quotes from him and several other important historical figures warning of this.

[SportsJunky]

Originally Posted by mikey_the_redneck

I think he's talking about chemtrails.........which are just government experiments to try and reverse the effects of global warming by sparying chemicals in the atmosphere that reflect the suns rays away from earth. There are of course, human health problems that can arise from doing this.
http://www.infowars.com/the-governme...e-environment/
Hopefully it doesnt go foo far.

For a good laugh/fright read the comments section that follows this "article".

[mikey_the_redneck]

Originally Posted by photon

What chemicals?

Since when have they been doing this?

Well if you read the article, it includes sulphur dioxide.

[mikey_the_redneck]

Originally Posted by SportsJunky

For a good laugh/fright read the comments section that follows this "article".

Yeah I try not to. Some of those people are pretty paranoid.

[photon]

Originally Posted by mikey_the_redneck

http://www.infowars.com/the-governme...e-environment/

Even just glancing at the article and video I can see huge errors in it.

The level of barium found, if you actually look at the paper with the results on it in the video, is 68.8 micrograms per L.. one ppm is one milligram per L. So this isn't 68.8ppm, or even the 6.8 claimed in the article.. it's 0.0688ppm.. or another way, they found 68.8 micrograms/L, while the limit is 2000 micrograms/L.

And this is something from a jar set out for a month.. impurities get concentrated while the water evaporates, so the actual concentration would be 1/30th that, since it's a month of impurities.

Maybe there's a barium mine nearby? Maybe that's the amount of barium found in the water there?

No one even blinked at the higher lead levels shown in that testing report either.

And that's just a few minutes of looking at it. You might want to find a better source of information than infowars...

[mikey_the_redneck]

Originally Posted by Sowa

Why did it fail though? If this is really what the people who secretly control the world want, they should be able to get this stuff done with no problem at all, right?

Obama and Homeland Security will/are looking for excuses to control guns in the U.S. Terrorism and the Mexican border drug war are among those excuses. Fortunately, Americans are at least smart enough to realize that their guns are not what is causing the blood shed at the border, like how ridiculous.

Big changes like that don't happen overnight......
These big bank owners and members of the Bilderberg Group have been working at pushing their agenda for decades....

[photon]

Originally Posted by mikey_the_redneck

Well if you read the article, it includes sulphur dioxide.

Sulphur dioxide occurs naturally in the atmosphere, and we've been pumping it out steadily burning coal for a long time.

How much SO2 are they proposing in putting up? Compared to the amount that already gets dumped into the atmosphere?

If they're doing it with jets, unless they have a lot more jets than anybody knows about, simple common sense says that they're not going to be able to put up more than a few percent of what already gets put up due to volcanoes and coal power and other sources.

And I notice that in the infowars article they talk about SO2, SO2, then all of a sudden it's the health impacts of sulfur.. it's like they don't know that different chemicals can have different properties. I guess they don't have any idea that their kitchen is filled with a substance made from a poisonous gas and an explosive metal.

EDIT: Not to mention there's no evidence they're actually doing this at all.

[Tower]

That is what I was talking about (Contrails/Chemtrails)... And spraying Sulpher Dioxide, as an example, with out public knowledge or awareness is wrong. It is another display of government power abuse of which the decision makers should stand trial for. Health issues should be a concern for the public service people no?

[peter12]

Originally Posted by mikey_the_redneck

Yeah I try not to. Some of those people are pretty paranoid.

Is this a joke?

[Azure]

Originally Posted by mikey_the_redneck

Alex Jones is not a racist................and he doesnt bring that up at all in the movie......you're getting a bit off topic there.
Lincoln wanted central government, but he didn't want banks and finance to take control of it, and thus the quotes from him and several other important historical figures warning of this.

I'm just saying you are mistaken to believe that Lincoln is one of the founding fathers.

The thing about the civil war is a shot at all the people who think it was just about the slavery, and ignore the bigger part....states rights.