01-04-2010, 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by troutman
http://www.leaderpost.com/Eric+Tillm...825/story.html
Saskatchewan Roughriders general manager Eric Tillman has pleaded guilty to a summary charge of sexual assault.
Tillman entered the plea in court in Regina Monday morning. Sentencing has been set for Tuesday. Tillman's lawyer, Aaron Fox, said he will ask for an absolute discharge for his client.
I imagine the circumstances will be read into the record at sentencing.
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I think they were read in today. From a report on CJME told to me by a friend. Tillman grabbed her beltloops and dry humped her from behind.
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01-04-2010, 09:56 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch
I think they were read in today. From a report on CJME told to me by a friend. Tillman grabbed her beltloops and dry humped her from behind.
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Confirmed by Rod Pedersen - post # 40
- he says he was under the influence of two pain killers and can't recall the incident.
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01-04-2010, 09:59 AM
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Tillman is a slimy piece of trash, and WTF is up with the victim's family??
If some perv dry humped my girlfriend, let alone my daughter, I would be looking to cut his nuts off.
Typical Rider fans - members of the team can rape, murder, steal, whatever they want as long as the team wins. Pure garbage.
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01-04-2010, 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by I_H8_Crawford
Tillman is a slimy piece of trash, and WTF is up with the victim's family??
If some perv dry humped my girlfriend, let alone my daughter, I would be looking to cut his nuts off.
Typical Rider fans - members of the team can rape, murder, steal, whatever they want as long as the team wins. Pure garbage.
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Really? That is what you would do? You would hold the person down and cut his nuts off?
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01-04-2010, 02:57 PM
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The Roughriders haven't had a good offseason in quite some time now. At the least they have the 13th man to bail them out....oh wait.
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01-04-2010, 03:16 PM
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#46
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Eric Tillman apology.
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"In terms of apologies, I would like to first and foremost apologize to (the teenaged girl). She is wonderful to our children, our children adored her, she had a great relationship with my wife, and I think it's been documented throughout all of this, we treated her with absolute respect the year that she babysat for us, and this would not have happened in a hundred million years had I not put myself in the position to be on medication. Nevertheless, my heart goes out to her and my apology is profound.
To her mom and dad. I know this is your daughter. I have a little girl. I know that women and daughters are precious, and my heart goes out to you. I thank them for extending me grace by accepting my apologies.
To my wife, who's been amazing through all of this, who didn't deserve this public humiliation, you are tremendous with our children who I love dearly, and who's been subjected to so many false rumours and so much ridicule. There are no words.
To my mom and dad, who raised us with a moral compass, who always taught us the value of other people, who always taught us to treat other people with dignity, and I've tried to honour them by living my life this way, the way that I have. It pains me beyond words that 10 or 15 seconds of my life could impact them so significantly, and I'm so profoundly sorry.
To Jim Hopson, who hired me, to Rob Pletch and the board of directors, Kenny Miller, to the coaches and players, the people that I've worked with and share my love of the Saskatchewan Roughriders, I apologize.
And, last but not least, to the good people of this province. One of the things I've said many times about moving here is that the wonderful thing about raising children here is the sense of pride, the sense of family, the fact that people care about things that matter here. I know people here care about not only their good names, but the good name of this province, and I'm profoundly sorry that I brought embarrassment to not only the organization and my family, but to people throughout this province.
As (defence lawyer Aaron Fox) said several times, this has been incredibly painful for me. That said, it should be noted I should be last on that list. I take full responsibility for my actions, and my emotion today is for other people that I know have been impacted. It's been painful for them.
And while there are no adequate words, I apologize, your honour. It was very wrong."
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01-04-2010, 03:36 PM
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She did stick around for a few hours after the incident, until ETs wife got home. Maybe the babysitter realized how messed up he was and it was just a misunderstanding.
Which makes me curious as to how the whole situation went. If she stayed, she must not have felt in danger.So how did her parents find out? Did ET grab her, realize it wasn't his wife, there was a big "OMG misunderstanding"...which is why she stayed.
Did she tell her parents about the little incident thinking they would find the humor in it, but instead, the dad lost his mind and called the cops?
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01-04-2010, 04:48 PM
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Sexual assault for dry humping? My dog must be a serial rapist by these standards.
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01-04-2010, 06:01 PM
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http://www.leaderpost.com/news/Eric+...825/story.html
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Crown prosecutor Bill Burge said the assault occurred when Tillman pulled "the rear end of the complainant into himself" by putting his fingers in the belt loops on her hips.
"While in that position, there was physical contact that was clearly of a sexual nature," Burge said. "This occurred without the consent of the complainant, and she told the accused 'no.' "
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Afterward, the teen phoned a friend, who picked her up. The girl spoke to a police officer within two days, and her father advised the Tillmans that she would no longer babysit for them.
The girl subsequently made three phone calls to Tillman, all of which were taped by police as part of their investigation into the assault. During the calls, Tillman said he didn't recall the incident.
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Burge said Tillman recently sent an apology to the girl and her family.
"The complaint has accepted the apology and she would like to move on," he said. The girl did not submit a victim impact statement.
Invited by Judge Murray Hinds to speak in court, Tillman issued a series of apologies, beginning with an emotional request that the media not publish details of his father's health problems.
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Tillman also apologized at length to the victim, her family, his own family, the Rider organization and the people of Saskatchewan.
"And while there are no adequate words, I apologize, your honour," he concluded. "It was very wrong."
Burge said the teenaged girl doesn't want to see Tillman lose his job, and her family doesn't believe a no-contact order is necessary.
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Court also heard that Tillman is hoping to remain in Saskatchewan, and would like to continue working with the Riders organization. The Riders have called a special board meeting to deal with Monday's developments, but Tillman's future with the organization remains uncertain.
The defence is arguing for an absolute discharge, which would see Tillman without a criminal record and no further obligations to the court. A conditional discharge would mean a period of court-ordered conditions, but would also leave Tillman without a criminal record.
Hinds is also considering whether Tillman should submit a sample to the national DNA database.
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01-04-2010, 07:56 PM
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I do not believe that something like this should be taken lightly. But at the same time I wonder if they are really over doing it.
At the same time I wonder where do you draw the line? What he did was inappropriate. I have a daughter. I would snap if some guy did that to her.
I do not buy the line where Tillman says he does not remember doing it. I suppose that is the nail in the coffin so to speak.
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01-04-2010, 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by JustAnotherGuy
I do not believe that something like this should be taken lightly. But at the same time I wonder if they are really over doing it.
At the same time I wonder where do you draw the line? What he did was inappropriate. I have a daughter. I would snap if some guy did that to her.
I do not buy the line where Tillman says he does not remember doing it. I suppose that is the nail in the coffin so to speak.
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How the hell did he drive home if he was in the state he was at the time this happened?
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01-05-2010, 09:04 AM
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I'm shocked and really disappointed in Tillman for doing this. He is doing the right thing now by admitting guilt and offering a heartfelt apology to the victim. Nevertheless, it doesn't excuse what he did.
His career is over.
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01-05-2010, 09:21 AM
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Tillman given a complete discharge by judge. My guess is he'll be back to work in a couple months.
Glad to see this sort of thing is taken seriously...
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01-05-2010, 10:06 AM
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I wonder if the CFL can stand by and watch as one of their teams keeps a pedophile as GM (should the Riders do the expected and keep the pervert).
If they do, it only helps sustain their "bush league" status.
Just imagine how great it will look next year to see signs in all stadiums outside Sask ridiculing the pedophile on the Riders payroll.
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01-05-2010, 10:23 AM
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Norm!
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While I think that the term pedophile is probably a little strong, I would classify this as really disturbing behavior.
Tillman has to be fired, first and foremost his statements and his wife's statements at the start of the whole matter indicated innocence. Because of that the Rider's BOD stood by him, kept paying him and let him continue to do his job under the face of a shame suspension. It looks like he lied to keep his pay going.
People are right when they say that there will be fans from other cities just eating this alive. I'm debating two signs for next year if Tillman is still with the team
"Eric dryhumped me"
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"Take two asprin and nail the babysitter in the morning"
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01-05-2010, 11:09 AM
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Am I understanding this right...he grabbed her from behind and thrusted? WOW.
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01-05-2010, 11:28 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by I_H8_Crawford
I wonder if the CFL can stand by and watch as one of their teams keeps a pedophile as GM (should the Riders do the expected and keep the pervert).
If they do, it only helps sustain their "bush league" status.
Just imagine how great it will look next year to see signs in all stadiums outside Sask ridiculing the pedophile on the Riders payroll.
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i agree he shouldn't be kept GM, i would be dissapointed if he is. he isn't a pedophile though, i think thats going after kids that are not yet teenagers, the girl was 16 i believe, which i guess makes him an edophile(sp?). he did something very stupid, and should be punished, just like anyone else would. Rider fans will take enough abuse next year without the Tillman stuff...
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01-05-2010, 11:31 AM
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The GM is your worst nightmare.
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01-05-2010, 11:46 AM
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Good thing the Riders brought in Tillman to clean up the organization after the Shivers era.
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