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Old 01-14-2009, 12:32 PM   #41
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If these guys aren't worried about getting busted for murder, I suspect that they're not too worried about a driving-without-a-license charge.
They'll be out on Bail that afternoon, anyway.
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Old 01-14-2009, 12:34 PM   #42
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If these guys aren't worried about getting busted for murder, I suspect that they're not too worried about a driving-without-a-license charge.
Not if its punishable by death. Simple answers...
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Old 01-14-2009, 02:07 PM   #43
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Are you crazy!?!?

No one wants "Big Wheel Bandits" or "Norco Ninjas" in the city.
"Supercycle Psychos"???
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Old 01-14-2009, 02:27 PM   #45
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If these guys aren't worried about getting busted for murder, I suspect that they're not too worried about a driving-without-a-license charge.
I also have heard that both groups have vowed to keep fighting until they are all dead. No respect and regard for themselves and others.

I used to have the thought that hopefully they can just all kill each other off then the problem will be over. The reality is that they are large in numbers and they get more new members than enemies they kill. There is unfortunately high demand for young males usually of visible minorities with little respect for themselves and others who are hungry for respect and the belonging of being in a gang. Sad reality.

The police alone cannot be the only ones fighting this problem. The million plus Calgarians have to step up to the plate to help out and avoid being victims to this nonsense.
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Old 01-14-2009, 02:29 PM   #46
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Legalize drugs?
Doubt that would make a difference, these guys would find other revenue streams.

Prostitution, gun trade, human trafficing, car theft, home invasions..

They won't go away and stop ruining lives if you take away the drug trade.
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Im shocked no one has said it yet. Clint Eastwood can get rid of Gang Violence

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I used to have the thought that hopefully they can just all kill each other off then the problem will be over. The reality is that they are large in numbers and they get more new members than enemies they kill.
It's compounding. The more people that get killed, the more violent retaliation you can expect. This was basically how the Bloods were formed in LA, after several family members, friends, etc., were fed up with the deaths of their loved ones via the Crips. I'm not saying that it'll get to something of that magnitude, mind you, but the circumstances are almost the same.
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Old 01-14-2009, 02:51 PM   #49
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Doubt that would make a difference, these guys would find other revenue streams.

Prostitution, gun trade, human trafficing, car theft, home invasions..

They won't go away and stop ruining lives if you take away the drug trade.
This is true, but drug revenue is a massive part of any gangs inner workings. Without it, of course they can divert resources into other areas, but they will not make nearly as much money.
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7772771.stm


Drug-related murders in Mexico more than doubled this year to nearly 5,400 and the violence is likely to worsen in 2009, the nation's top prosecutor says.

"We still haven't reached the peak of violence," Attorney General Eduardo Medina Mora told reporters.

He attributed the rising violence to the internal power struggles as drug gangs split and fight for turf.

The government has deployed some 40,000 troops and police since December 2006 against the cartels.

The number of killings linked to organised crime registered between 1 January and 2 December was 5,376 - a rise of 117% on the same period last year, Mr Medina Mora told foreign correspondents in Mexico City.

November was the bloodiest month yet - with 943 murders.

http://www.chinapost.com.tw/internat...o-launches.htm

Mexico launches 'virtual' judge system against gangs

MEXICO CITY -- Amidst a soaring number of murders connected to escalating drug gang conflicts, Mexico on Monday launched a system of “virtual” judges who are to respond online and within 24 hours to requests for search warrants, preventive arrests or telephone tapping of organized crime suspects.

They will have their headquarters in a high-technology, top- security building in southern Mexico City, and the whole country will be under their jurisdiction. They are to respond quickly in favor of or against requests by public prosecutors in relation to organized crime and national security issues.

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Old 01-14-2009, 03:15 PM   #51
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charged with a gun related offence: No bail. period.
thats how it should be
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I think that with gun related crimes, they should get long sentences, no parole, and we cut off the trigger fingers on both of their hands.
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Police say 20-year-old Matthew John Chubak is the victim of a bloody gang war in Calgary.

Damn Asian immigrants!
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Police say 20-year-old Matthew John Chubak is the victim of a bloody gang war in Calgary.
Hardly. I heard he was a crack dealer and was previously shot in chinatown in November. If you're a known gang member and someone has already tried to take your life because if it, the fact that you stay in town makes you part of the problem, not a victim of it.

Glad to hear he's now nothing more than a statistic...
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Old 01-15-2009, 12:35 AM   #56
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I saw the guy trying to steal someones extension cord, I took care of it.

This whole gang violence BS is simply a group of concerned citizens self policing the theft of extension cords. Someone has to stop it, the Police dont care.
I disagree on this comment. Police cares but they can only do so much. It gets frustrating for them to put the freaking gang members to jail then the next day some idiot judge or someone higher ups let them out because they claimed jail is overcrowded. I know an undercover cop who's been working on drug enforcement. Most of them were transferred to gang unit lately. They picked up a few gang members and put them to jail but the next day the judge let them go on bail. The undercover cop that I know and some of his units were so ticked off. The next thing you know we started hearing this crappy gang wars again.

I say let the cops take them to jail and who freaking cares about overcrowding in jail.
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Old 01-15-2009, 01:14 AM   #57
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I heard today on the news, that the police might be given more powers to actually deal with these people, like more powers for search and warrant, etc.
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Alot of this, in my mind, has to do with community outreach. It should be the patriotic duty of every Canadian family to adopt another new family and help them integrate smoothly into Canadian culture.
Don't blame me! Blame the policy of official multiculturalism, whereby I'm deemed to be racist if I attempt to integrate an immigrant into Canadian culture (whatever that is).

"Hey Tuan...do you want to go out for a Peters' burger!"
"So you're saying you think my native-culture lunch stinks?"
"No...I just...want a burger..."
"I'LL SUE YOU AND THE HORSE YOU RODE IN ON!!!!!!"

No, that doesn't really happen...but that's the kind of thing that people are wary of because of the ever-present "thought police." Even IF these thought police (i.e., human rights commissions, left-wing media) were only concerned with truly malicious thoughts, there would still be enough fear of reprisal (Google "Mark Steyn CHRC" for explanation) that even legitimate criticism is suppressed or punished.

If I'm afraid to tell an immigrant that "we wash our hands in this country," what chance do I have to help integrate such people into this western culture??
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