Meteor?

[The Fonz]

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[KevanGuy]

Global is going to replay the video right away.

[T@T]

Originally Posted by photon

Not even close, if it was an asteroid you wouldn't be typing anything right now.

A meteor the size of a baseball can be as bright as the full moon.

LOL, this was not full moon light from what i heard, this had light that lite up peoples windows from basement suites. Seems to me it must have been large to be seen from people 600 miles from each other, I have seen a couple of meteors and i can promise you someone 600 miles from me wouldn't have seen the same thing. That's like seeing a westjet 737's landing lights over Vancouver...not possible.

You may or may not know this but a meteor is a boulder sized (could almost fit in your hand) particle of debris from space, science says there is ZERO chance that a meteor could light up the sky for 600 miles.

An asteroid on the other hand can be as small as a 100 feet and as large as..well a small planet. fact is anything smaller than 100 feet burns up to basicly nothing before it hits the visual atmosphere.

Now that we got that out of the way

It is very possible it was a small asteroid that bounced off the upper atmosphere and went back to space.

Again.there is ZERO chance this was a meteor, if it was than we better change the defination of a meteor.

[Hemmer]

Originally Posted by The Fonz

Yes it did. I was driving home and saw it, I was about 30 miles out of Saskatoon. I was putting along in the pitch black, when for a couple seconds it was nearly daylight, all 360 degrees around me, I finally saw the fireball and swear to god it looked about the size of the moon. I called my dad and was freaking out, it was huge! I started the conversation with "....was....there....supposed to be an asteroid or something?" Him - "....no...." Me - "well this will sound crazy, but I just saw one, it was on fire and I'm sure it hit the earth somewhere in the west". A few minutes later one of my best friends sends me a text saying "I just saw a UFO!!!!!", and he lives a few hundred miles away from Saskatoon.

I dunno.. it just happened all so fast and I kinda had to pinch myself cuz I didn't believe what I was seeing. I just remember a very very bright flash to the east.. and seeing the outlines of the clouds very clearly.. (kinda like the glow from fireworks) and then all of a sudden this freakin fireball streaks out of the freakin sky. My jaws just dropped like a little kid.

But I also got that feeling that it had to have landed somewhere close (east of Edmonton).

[Deelow]

Some interesting stuff here.
http://www.spaceweather.com/
The nature of the object is uncertain. The slow pace of the fireball favors decaying space junk and indeed it may have been a Soyuz rocket body reentering Earth's atmosphere a day earlier than expected. The Soyuz rocket launched a Russian Defense Ministry reconnaissance satellite codenamed Kosmos-2445 on Nov. 14th. We cannot yet rule out the possibility that this was a small asteroid disintegrating in Earth's atmosphere; in the statistics of fireballs, asteroids outnumber rocket bodies by a wide margin. Stay tuned for updates.

This is a pretty cool story.

[algernon]

Originally Posted by Hemmer

I dunno..
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But I also got that feeling that it had to have landed somewhere close (east of Edmonton).

Hmmm... the size, shape and trajectory suggests to me that Penner's career may be found somewhere around Entwistle.

[Daradon]

Originally Posted by Hemmer

CTV Edmonton security camera catches the meteor approaching

http://edmonton.ctv.ca/servlet/an/lo...b=EdmontonHome

Click on the link under the CTV Video Player

That's a little bit bigger than what I saw 18-24 months ago.

But that distinctive green flash, for sure. The bigger ones seem to do that. From what I've seen. (3 total, I reference the biggest one I've seen)

It must be the atmosphere that does that. Photon? Bobblehead?

Pretty cool. But yeah, that could have been anywhere in a 2500 KM radius from there. I remember the one I saw was tracked WAYYYY south and said to have burnt up without hitting the ground. (Probably looked more like this there)

[Daradon]

Can you imagine what the ones that hit the ground look like???!!!

The one I saw saw was supposed to be no bigger than a grain of sand. This one, I have to assume, not much bigger.

Goes to show you what immense speed can do to tiny objects.

BTW have they fixed the Hadron yet?

Taking about big explosions from tiny things...







ya ya ya 'that's what SHE said'...

Get it out of your system.

[stang]

Originally Posted by Deelow

Maybe in the city. Where we are it was like daylight for those few seconds.

Are you calling me a liar?

All accounts from around Lloydminster agree with you... "it was just like daylight"

[T@T]

Originally Posted by Deelow

Some interesting stuff here.
http://www.spaceweather.com/
The nature of the object is uncertain. The slow pace of the fireball favors decaying space junk and indeed it may have been a Soyuz rocket body reentering Earth's atmosphere a day earlier than expected. The Soyuz rocket launched a Russian Defense Ministry reconnaissance satellite codenamed Kosmos-2445 on Nov. 14th. We cannot yet rule out the possibility that this was a small asteroid disintegrating in Earth's atmosphere; in the statistics of fireballs, asteroids outnumber rocket bodies by a wide margin. Stay tuned for updates.

This is a pretty cool story.

From the link provided:

UPDATE: The Saskatchawan fireball was not Soyuz. The Russian rocket body that propelled Kosmos-2445 to orbit was still being tracked 10+ hours after the fireball sighting. This means the fireball was almost certainly a small asteroid.

[fredr123]

Originally Posted by T@T

An asteroid on the other hand can be as small as a 100 feet and as large as..well a small planet. fact is anything smaller than 100 feet burns up to basicly nothing before it hits the visual atmosphere.

And if it does survive to hit the earth, it's usually no bigger than a chihuahua's head.

[photon]

Originally Posted by T@T

LOL, this was not full moon light from what i heard, this had light that lite up peoples windows from basement suites. Seems to me it must have been large to be seen from people 600 miles from each other, I have seen a couple of meteors and i can promise you someone 600 miles from me wouldn't have seen the same thing. That's like seeing a westjet 737's landing lights over Vancouver...not possible.

I was just saying that a small one can be very bright, I wasn't saying that this one was that size, just saying that it doesn't take something very big to make something very bright.

100 miles is usually the range to see a meteor, but if it's much brighter then normal more will see it. If it was 100 miles high, then people up to 1000 miles away from it could be able to see it (more and the curve of the earth would get in the way).

Add in it streaking across the sky across multiple provinces, and you get the massive reports that we saw.

You may or may not know this but a meteor is a boulder sized (could almost fit in your hand) particle of debris from space, science says there is ZERO chance that a meteor could light up the sky for 600 miles.

And yet, that's exactly what happened. A meteor is a visible chunk of something falling into the atmosphere, regardless of size. If it hits the ground it is a meteorite.

Do you mean a meteoroid?

An asteroid on the other hand can be as small as a 100 feet and as large as..well a small planet.

True, so yes you are right if an asteroid at the small end of things fell to earth then:

fact is anything smaller than 100 feet burns up to basicly nothing before it hits the visual atmosphere.

Not true, even stuff the size of a grain of sand will be visible on a dark night. Stuff from marble size up can reach the surface and impact.

This is all ignoring composition, an ice ball will burn up much faster than a metal object. And velocity.

See this impact crater:



The meteorite that caused it was 50 meters across.

Now that we got that out of the way

Not quite.

It is very possible it was a small asteroid that bounced off the upper atmosphere and went back to space.

That I agree with, I think we're missing each other on semantics. In space it was either a comet, meteoroid, or asteroid. Meteoroids are sand to boulder sized, asteroids boulder sized and up. This could have been boulder sized.

Again.there is ZERO chance this was a meteor, if it was than we better change the defination of a meteor.

If you can see it its a meteor, that is the definition of a meteor.

[stang]

I think it was Chuck Norris doing a new roundhouse kick.....

[onetwo_threefour]

Photon is right T@T is wrong.

Asteroid describes a body orbiting the sun, meteor describes a body falling to earth regardless of size.

This could just as easily have been a 'dark' comet as a small asteroid, but in either case, once it hits the atmosphere it 'becomes' a meteor.

Furthermore, a small meteor can be seen from hundreds of kiometers away, if you're looking in the right direction. In fact most meteors you do see are about 85 km away even if directly overhead. As soon as they're off at an angle from vertical, their distance is increasing from you dramatically. To see one at a few hundred kilometers is not beyond the realm of possibility at all.

This may seem blunt but T@T's post sounded fairly condescending to me...

[Deelow]

Originally Posted by stang

I think it was Chuck Norris doing a new roundhouse kick.....

Strange. I just heard that on the radio.

[stang]

Originally Posted by Deelow

Strange. I just heard that on the radio.

What station?

[Deelow]

The Goat- bonnyville

[stang]

Originally Posted by Deelow

The Goat- bonnyville

Haha... me and my boss have been calling in to them all morning... (well goat Lloydminster)

Listen for us ranting about tinfoil hats

[photon]

Originally Posted by onetwo_threefour

Photon is right T@T is wrong.

Well to be fair I did say "If it was an asteroid", when it could have been a boulder sized asteroid, so he did have some point, if not for the right reason, I should have been more specific.

[photon]

Here's some good video:

http://www.spaceweather.com/