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Montana Moe · 08-31-2008, 12:14 PM

Updates show Gustav weakening a bit, and tracking a little further to the west. Hopefully this trend continues.

Many of the folks I'm talking to think we may have seen the worst of Gustav.

Bagor · 08-31-2008, 12:22 PM

Down to a 3 but expected to re-intensify within the next day.

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GUSTAV IS A CATEGORY THREE HURRICANE ON THE SAFFIR - SIMPSON SCALE. SOME RE-INTENSIFICATION IS FORECAST DURING THE NEXT 12 TO 24 HOURS...AND GUSTAV COULD REGAIN CATEGORY FOUR STRENGTH LATER TODAY OR TONIGHT. FLUCTUATIONS IN STRENGTH ARE LIKELY THEREAFTER...BUT GUSTAV IS FORECAST TO REMAIN A MAJOR HURRICANE UNTIL LANDFALL.

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/text/refresh...l/311750.shtml

Azure · 08-31-2008, 01:21 PM

Well, lets hope everyone learned their lesson last time, and gets out of there this time around.

Montana Moe · 08-31-2008, 01:46 PM

Mayor Nagin states that anyone caught looting will be transported directly to Angola State Prison.

http://www.nola.com/hurricane/index....rectly_to.html

Edit: According to the comments below the article, folks have another idea of what to do with the looters...

FlamesAddiction · 08-31-2008, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Montana Moe

Mayor Nagin states that anyone caught looting will be transported directly to Angola State Prison.

http://www.nola.com/hurricane/index....rectly_to.html

Edit: According to the comments below the article, folks have another idea of what to do with the looters...

I hope they do something. It was just disgusting last time. People were drowning in their homes while other people were wading through chest high water with TV's and cases of beer over their heads.

chummer · 09-01-2008, 09:10 AM

Sounds like it missed New Orleans and is now a Cat.2.

Sure doesn't look like "the storm of the century".

transplant99 · 09-01-2008, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by chummer

Sounds like it missed New Orleans and is now a Cat.2.

Sure doesn't look like "the storm of the century".

Well yes it "missed" NO directly, but that actually may be a bad deal for them. It landed to the West about 50 miles or so, which means that NO proper is getting the East side of the storm...the strong side. Also a Cat 2 hurricane still packs winds of 110 MPH...this thing is still very dangerous.

There are reports that water is overlapping the levees...which is something they can handle with minimal damage....but there are also reports that the levees have breached UNDERGROUND because of the storm surge and water is beginning to pour into the 9th ward. if so, we could be looking at the same debacle as 2005.

This thing aint over by a large margin.....there will catastrophic flooding inand as Gustav stalls and slows, and hopefully it wont be in any heavily populated areas, but Lafayette and Baton Rouge (both places that many NO'ers went for shelter) look like candidates to get clobbered.

transplant99 · 09-01-2008, 10:07 AM

Strangest part of this so far to me?

oil is DOWN almost 4 bucks a barrel....with many refineries and drilling platforms in the way of this thing.....just a weird bobble in the price.

Dan02 · 09-01-2008, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by transplant99

Strangest part of this so far to me?

oil is DOWN almost 4 bucks a barrel....with many refineries and drilling platforms in the way of this thing.....just a weird bobble in the price.

or because speculation had already priced in the effects of a major hurricane and it turned out to be not as bad as predicteD??

T@T · 09-01-2008, 03:50 PM

May as well keep this thread going and just insert different names and landfalls

transplant99 · 09-01-2008, 04:02 PM

Looks like NOLA dodged a bullet...thank god. Still lots of devastation inland though and we really wont see any of it til tomorrow when they can get some choppers in the air.

As for Hanna...actually early projections sends her my way in about a week...we need rain but holy crap if she is anything like the last two of these things we went through...no thanks.

T@T · 09-01-2008, 04:13 PM

Hanna doesn't look at this point to grow into anything more than a cat-1

But Ike on the other hand is forming into a monster very quickly.

transplant99 · 09-01-2008, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Dan02

or because speculation had already priced in the effects of a major hurricane and it turned out to be not as bad as predicteD??

Its WAY to early to know that though.

As I write this I am watching a report from a guy in Lake Charles LA, who is having a hard time standing up straight because of wind. Even more disturbing is that they are predicting anywhere from 12-20 INCHES of rain for that area....and that area is a MAJOR cog in the oil and refinery business in the USA.

Flames in 07 · 09-01-2008, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by transplant99

Strangest part of this so far to me?

oil is DOWN almost 4 bucks a barrel....with many refineries and drilling platforms in the way of this thing.....just a weird bobble in the price.

It's not that strange. If you were to knock out production, we'd be short crude oil so price would go up. If you knock out refineries then demand for crude goes down and price goes down.

I think there are fears that refineries will be impacted more than production ... and there was a fair bit of spec on production going down but first look was that production may not be disrupted as significantly as first thought.

dobbles · 09-01-2008, 09:13 PM

i honestly think that people freaked out this time to compensate for katrina. as was mentioned a while back, no one was paying attention to katrina as it came. heck a lot of people even though that nola made it through again the hours after it hit. then the levees finally collapsed and the city was screwed.

this time there was a lot of bad info out there that was sensationalizing it. all that talk of a cat 5 was pretty unfounded. everyone talking about it strengthening and the loop current in the gulf etc, really were wrong. i was reading the noaa reports the last few days and it seemed like an entirely different hurricane than the one being talked about on the weather channel and cnn... and even thought the hurricane was on basically a straight line through the gulf, every projection on the news had it heading straight for the french quarter in nola...

i am glad it didn't end up worse, and hopefully no levees fail. just had another thought. today i was on cnn.com, and they had a sensationalist headline about the levees getting ready to fail. made it sound like all of nola was doomed again. read the article, and it was talking about levees like 20 miles downriver of nola. but they sure talked it up like it was the whole city that was doomed.

regarding the red cross and people being displaced, during katrina, i was in the americorps working for a year with the red cross. i was living a little bit south of the quad cities and we had about 20 people from new orleans staying in our town. we worked with all of those families to make sure they had what they needed. i remember driving one guy to the optometrist because his glasses broke leaving the city and he needed to fix them. i also was responsible for sending off about 20 of our local volunteers to work at the various shelters down there. i was unable to go myself as i was needed in the office doing the administrative side of things. but it was definitely a reminder of how good people can be to each other when needed. so i definitely appreciate what folks do to help others out.

transplant99 · 09-01-2008, 10:11 PM

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this time there was a lot of bad info out there that was sensationalizing it. all that talk of a cat 5 was pretty unfounded.

No it really wasn't...it almost got there as a matter of fact. And those forecasts were coming from the National Hurricane center...those guys dont "sensationalize" anything, they simply look at the situation and try to forecast what will happen.

this was still a very destructive storm, and we wont know how bad until daylight tomorrow, and as such because of the evacuations, I have no doubt lives were saved.

Inland LA is going to look bad though, no question about it as well there is still significant flooding threats to NO as rivers fill up inland and that flow gets back to town.

Looks like all the NO levees held, though people about 60 miles NW didnt fare quite as luckily. I think many here think that only if NO flooded was this a bad storm...truth is it still clobbered a couple populated areas as well as it still being an incredible rain maker. Its damage will be one to remember....til the next one.

T@T · 09-03-2008, 09:18 PM

Ike has turned from a TS into a monster Cat-4 in 24 hours

Not sure where it will hit as it a little too soon but most models suggest a S-Florida hit and then possibly into the gulf...yikes

Slava · 09-03-2008, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by transplant99

No it really wasn't...it almost got there as a matter of fact. And those forecasts were coming from the National Hurricane center...those guys dont "sensationalize" anything, they simply look at the situation and try to forecast what will happen.

this was still a very destructive storm, and we wont know how bad until daylight tomorrow, and as such because of the evacuations, I have no doubt lives were saved.

Inland LA is going to look bad though, no question about it as well there is still significant flooding threats to NO as rivers fill up inland and that flow gets back to town.

Looks like all the NO levees held, though people about 60 miles NW didnt fare quite as luckily. I think many here think that only if NO flooded was this a bad storm...truth is it still clobbered a couple populated areas as well as it still being an incredible rain maker. Its damage will be one to remember....til the next one.

Man I feel terrible for those people. I think that a lot of the rest of us (myself included at times) saw the coverage of New Orleans and thought "Oh good, it wasn't that bad." That kind of sentiment is probably terrible though if you were someone who was devastated elsewhere in the state.

KevanGuy · 09-03-2008, 10:23 PM

Ike down on the right. Looks pretty serious, still has a long way to go to land though.

Montana Moe · 09-03-2008, 10:31 PM

Yes, Ike is an issue, and the locals already have their eye on it. Gustav gave N.O. a break, but kicked Baton Rouge, as well as a lot of Acadiana in the tail.

Most of the continent will never know the destruction that Gustav caused, they will see a football game played at the Superdome on Sunday, and assume all is well. Please, donate to the Red Cross, think about donating time to the Gulf Coast, and before you think that New Orleans is a waste of time, do a little research and see what exactly the N.O. metro area brings to the U.S. and North American economy. We would not be the same without it.