The Wii system does not interest me whatsoever. To this day I am amazed at the amount of hype for it.
For those who want to get into gaming now, buck for buck I would do a PS2 (even two, thus head to head options that are awesome). Huge and cheap library.
Agreed. PS2 already had this stuff covered with the eyetoy yet that never caught on. wii play = eyetoy play, wii sports = eyetoy sports, wii fit = eyetoy kinetic. Sony would be in better shape had they just painted the ps2 white, bundled in the eyetoy and slapped a 3 on it.
It's weird how peripherals are able to sell now(like guitar hero) but at least nintendo won't fear wii peripherals not selling and can introduce a new fix to the wiimote that addresses my main problem with it(besides the graphics...sorry i like my hd audio and video stuff ....I eagerly await wiihd).
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The Wii doesn't appeal to me at all. Seems like a system that is solely dedicated to cute little party games. There doesn't seem to be a lot of high end titles or anything very interesting. And its too underpowered to even try to compete with the GTA's of the world. For all their talk about such a revolutionary control, it hasn't inspired many good games.
I think for all around gaming xbox 360 is so much better..you can still have party games, but also have the option of great high end titles as well.
That is the lure of the Wii system. Children, teenagers etc have time to sit around and play video games all day and night. Adults with lives and families are busy and don't months to dedicate to video game titles. They would rather play Wii bowling for the one free hour they get a week.
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That is the lure of the Wii system. Children, teenagers etc have time to sit around and play video games all day and night. Adults with lives and families are busy and don't months to dedicate to video game titles. They would rather play Wii bowling for the one free hour they get a week.
Thats right on the money. In my 20's I played a lot of video games in the evenings or on a Sunday afternoon. Now that I'm married with young kids, I don't have time to play. I might get to play wii sports with my daughter before she goes to bed, thats about it.
Now I woudn't have purchased a new system that catered only to serious gamers, becaue I simply didn't have the time to play it. With the wii, I could justify the expense. Nintendo tapped the untapped market and it has worked so far.
You guys keep forgetting to mention the juggernaut that is Pokemon when you mention the 1st party success of Nintendo. They could probably sell a console with JUST Pokemon titles, and they'd still make a killing!
I don't think there's been a Pokemon video game that hasn't broken the top three in sales in the month it was released.
Now this is the thing, and the big reason I latched onto Igottago's post so fast.
It's one thing to say, "The games on this system just do not appeal to me and I find the wii-mote gimmick to be very lacking."
That's a good reason to not like the Wii.
"The Wii is just for kids and has no real adult titles." Is not acceptable because it is an ignorant opinion plyed by people who think the 360 or PS3 should be selling the most because of some sort of manifest destiny laid out by the video game god. It pisses me off, a lot. Stereotyping any system does. It's like the Nintendo kiddies who say buying an X-Box 360 is a bad idea because every single system has a hardware error.
Honestly, I'm playing more PS2 games right now than anything. That console is a goldmine for quality titles!
Also, there IS a severe lack of any games coming out for Wii that any serious gamer would care about. There's The Conduit... annnnd that's it. Nintendo's not really doing anything interesting, and third parties still aren't taking it seriously. How long do we have to put up with the garbage mini-game collections and half-ass sequel attempts from Nintendo *cough*new Animal Crossing*cough* before the good games start coming?
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What I find amazing is how the PS2 is still selling after 8 years on the market! That machine is a beast since it still has +150 titles in the making for the next 12 months!
On another note... man there are some terrible, terrible games for the wii. Not the main titles and stuff (all mentioned above) but the knock-off looking ones. It seems like these no-name developers are jumping all over the system and putting out truck loads of crap in hopes that people will bite on them. It's comparable to "straight to DVD" movies, in that you won't even see the things in the new releases as they go straight to the ten dollar bin at Wal-mart.
Don't get me wrong, there is some groundbreaking stuff going on with the wii but buyer beware with some of those titles is definitely recommended.
I have played every system from the very first days when Atari launched Pong.
The Wii system does not interest me whatsoever. To this day I am amazed at the amount of hype for it.
Over the years, I have not bypassed many systems. Owned pretty much every one that came out.
At this point, I see no valid reason to buy a Wii, thus I will not.
For those who want to get into gaming now, buck for buck I would do a PS2 (even two, thus head to head options that are awesome). Huge and cheap library.
Pong is still a great game compared to some of the CRAP that is out there now.
Touche ... the duck game was painful. However, the difference is that the wii seems to have truckloads of games just as useless being delivered to stores on a weekly basis. The duck game (and while we're at it, the sky diving game) is a laughable entry into an otherwise pretty impressive line-up of downloadable games.
Touche ... the duck game was painful. However, the difference is that the wii seems to have truckloads of games just as useless being delivered to stores on a weekly basis. The duck game (and while we're at it, the sky diving game) is a laughable entry into an otherwise pretty impressive line-up of downloadable games.
A year after the PS2 came out, wasn't it in the same boat? If I recall there was a lot of crap to sift through.
The reality i, is that the best selling console, obivously has the largest userbase, and therefore the largest number of games developed for it (many of which are crap).
Out of the 1500+ games released for the PS2, I'd say the vast majority qualify in your "useless" category.
A year after the PS2 came out, wasn't it in the same boat? If I recall there was a lot of crap to sift through.
The reality i, is that the best selling console, obivously has the largest userbase, and therefore the largest number of games developed for it (many of which are crap).
Out of the 1500+ games released for the PS2, I'd say the vast majority qualify in your "useless" category.
The difference is that PS2 had tons of awesome first and third-party games coming out for it at the same time. You can overlook the crap if there are actually good games coming out. Unfortunately, developers seem to be shoveling out garbage on Wii to make a quick buck and fund their real games for PS3 and Xbox 360.
The difference is that PS2 had tons of awesome first and third-party games coming out for it at the same time. You can overlook the crap if there are actually good games coming out. Unfortunately, developers seem to be shoveling out garbage on Wii to make a quick buck and fund their real games for PS3 and Xbox 360.
I'm not going to debate you on "real games" as that is about as subjective as you get. I am personally tired of the FPS genre, and felt it peaked with Half-Life 2.
Third party developers and publishers will not be able to ignore the largest userbase very long if they want to maximize profits. People were saying the same thing about the DS three years ago (ala no good third party games), and now you can find a plethora of good third party offerings on it.
The PS1 had terrible third party support until its userbase could no longer be ignored.
We'll see what happens when the Wii's sales surpass both the PS3 and Xbox360 combined either later this year or in early 2009. I concede that most 3rd party offerings are junk, but there are still good non-Nintendo developed games for the Wii, such as No More Heroes, Godfather (great because it nailed the controls), and Zack & Wiki. The next Fatal Frame game is a Wii exclusive, and it looks to be shaping up pretty good.
And yes the Wee 1st and Play Zone, look lame, but the All-Play series' (which is EA's Sports brand for Wii games) look to be shaping up to be very good sports titles, particularily Madden 09 and Tiger 09.
I try not to be a fanboy, as I know we all have our own preferences, but I have been very satisfied with my Wii for the 1.5 years I've had it. It helps that its actually a gaming system my wife will participate in.
I'm not going to debate you on "real games" as that is about as subjective as you get. I am personally tired of the FPS genre, and felt it peaked with Half-Life 2.
Third party developers and publishers will not be able to ignore the largest userbase very long if they want to maximize profits. People were saying the same thing about the DS three years ago (ala no good third party games), and now you can find a plethora of good third party offerings on it.
The PS1 had terrible third party support until its userbase could no longer be ignored.
But why spend millions of dollars developing a big budget game when you could could just push out some low budget mini-game collection and make a ton more money?
The reality of the Wii is that a VAST majority of the owners aren't gamers, and aren't going to buy games that gamers would buy. Even Nintendo themselves is realizing this, if you watched their E3 press conference. EVERY fantastic looking third party game is coming to 360 and PS3, but not Wii. And no, that's not just first person shooters. Prince of Persia, Mirror's Edge, Fallout 3, Resident Evil 5, Final Fantasy XIII, Street Fighter IV, Soul Calibur IV, Dead Space, Bionic Commando... all without mentioning Microsoft and Sony's first party stuff, which blows Nintendo's out of the water.
....I eagerly await wiihd
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